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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 7:42 PM

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Your posts are evil. You are retarded.

Keep crying bitch. You're finished.

6ix, I don't have to have lived around the Confederate slave-owners to know they deserved death for what they were. I lived around plenty of Trumptards all my life, and they aren't any better than slave-owners as people.

Today, that fat fucking bastard of a President is bringing back The Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), "Star Wars," except he is calling it "Golden Dome". Star Wars could not be built when Reagan was President, and it still cannot be built, but stupid Trumptards want it because they are rotten people who fearfully believe in a fantasy defense system. Essentially, Trumptards are cowards who want a Golden Dome to protect them from even thinking about their well-deserved deaths. Civil War-era slave-owners spent their time in well-deserved fear of being murdered by their slaves. Gee-whiz, it seems to be a theme with evil people to fear they will be killed. Evil people sense that they deserve to die brutally, either from the missiles of their many enemies, or mistreated slaves bashing in the heads of slave-owners, or illegal aliens killing abusive Trumptards. As for me, I never had a psychological reason to fear death, not even a twinge of anxiety. But then I am not a Trumptard.

Star Wars Missile Defense System
https://www.google.com/search?q=star+wars+missile+defense+system

Trump unveils plans for 'Golden Dome' defence system
2 hours ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy33n484x0o
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"All of them will be knocked out of the air," Trump said. "The success rate is very close to 100%."
Only a lying sack of shit would say what Trump said. Only a Trumptard would believe him.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 8:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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But right-wingers simply refuse to accept the reality that almost everyone on Medicaid is either a child, a senior, disabled or between jobs. A recent article in the Times by Matt Bruenig had a very illuminating chart:

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Only 3 percent of Medicaid recipients were non-disabled working-age adults persistently not working — the kind of people right-wingers imagine infest the program. And it’s a good bet that a fair number of these people had extenuating circumstances of some kind.

Sometimes, Libtards inadvertently reveal facts about how incompetent they are at administering government.


This is an interesting chart. It shows those on Medicaid in 2022. No legend on how many are Illegal Alien Invaders that Lord Darth Obiden hoisted onto the Medicaid rolls.

I'm listing the presented figures in case the chart disappears.

The chart does convolute the categories, to try and confuse you.

37% were children
9% were 65 or older
54% were working age.

Out of those 54% working age:
48% worked that year
7% worked the next year
27% were disabled
12% would soon leave Medicaid
6% were not working long term

The 48% that worked that year, times the 54%, equals 26% of the total on Medicaid.


Before Obama, Medicaid was for poor children, seniors, and disabled. Obama added on working people onto an already overburdened system.

The 27% disabled, times 54%, equals about 14.6% of the total. They placed this group separately from children and seniors to confuse you.
So, about 51.6% (37+9+14.6) of the total had been the extent of Medicaid prior to Obama. This had already been a program headed towards insolvency, if not actually there.
You can see that Obama practically doubled the patient load of those on Medicaid.

Just the portion who were working that year accounted for more than 50% piled on top of the 51.6%.
This was what the Democrats did to Medicaid.

So now they need to blame the GoP for trying to fix their mess.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 9:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Your posts are evil. You are retarded.

Keep crying bitch. You're finished.

6ix, I don't have to have lived around the Confederate slave-owners to know they deserved death for what they were.



They were all Democrats. They all voted Democrat.

And all these years later they are the people telling you that black people are too stupid and/or lazy to get a driver's license that they already need to drive. And those no-good, lazy, stupid black people are the only reason we can't have secure elections in this country.


We're done dude. Nobody wants to hear a fucking word out of any of you anymore.

Go to bluesky and you can all cry together about the death of your party and the fact that nobody listens to any of you anymore.



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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 9:29 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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But right-wingers simply refuse to accept the reality that almost everyone on Medicaid is either a child, a senior, disabled or between jobs. A recent article in the Times by Matt Bruenig had a very illuminating chart:

Quote:

Only 3 percent of Medicaid recipients were non-disabled working-age adults persistently not working — the kind of people right-wingers imagine infest the program. And it’s a good bet that a fair number of these people had extenuating circumstances of some kind.

Sometimes, Libtards inadvertently reveal facts about how incompetent they are at administering government.


This is an interesting chart. It shows those on Medicaid in 2022. No legend on how many are Illegal Alien Invaders that Lord Darth Obiden hoisted onto the Medicaid rolls.

I'm listing the presented figures in case the chart disappears.

The chart does convolute the categories, to try and confuse you.

37% were children
9% were 65 or older
54% were working age.

Out of those 54% working age:
48% worked that year
7% worked the next year
27% were disabled
12% would soon leave Medicaid
6% were not working long term

The 48% that worked that year, times the 54%, equals 26% of the total on Medicaid.


Before Obama, Medicaid was for poor children, seniors, and disabled. Obama added on working people onto an already overburdened system.

The 27% disabled, times 54%, equals about 14.6% of the total. They placed this group separately from children and seniors to confuse you.
So, about 51.6% (37+9+14.6) of the total had been the extent of Medicaid prior to Obama. This had already been a program headed towards insolvency, if not actually there.
You can see that Obama practically doubled the patient load of those on Medicaid.

Just the portion who were working that year accounted for more than 50% piled on top of the 51.6%.
This was what the Democrats did to Medicaid.

So now they need to blame the GoP for trying to fix their mess.



Without access to their research and taking the time to go over it, I don't put any stock
at all into that graph. It's just a picture. I can slap the name of any institute I want
on any picture in Paint.NET and it would take me 10 seconds to do it.

In other words, anybody who shows me a graph without any data to me is presenting me with
a document that on face value is less convincing than Obama's birth certificate. (Which
I could also easily recreate just because any birth certificate from that era would be
extremely easy to forge).


Besides... Can't get any real numbers unless they distinguish between those who were on
Medicaid before Covid and the tens of millions more who were put on after Covid.

That's the biggest muck up of the data right now. How could you tell how many illegals
are on there when we don't even know in 2025 how many additional people are still on Medicaid
since Covid rules changed everything?


Every state handles it differently and has different timelines for this stuff. Even in
Indiana this far into 2025 I don't believe they've kicked any of the post-Covid additions
off of the plan yet.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 9:34 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Your posts are evil. You are retarded.

Keep crying bitch. You're finished.

6ix, I don't have to have lived around the Confederate slave-owners to know they deserved death for what they were.



They were all Democrats. They all voted Democrat.

The "Democrats" of 1860 are not connected to the Democrats of 2025. The word Democrat gets used all over the world by countries that are messed up by the locals' misunderstanding of the words Democrat and Democracy:

People's Democratic Republic of Algeria
Congo, Democratic Republic of the
East Timor – Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste
Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia
Korea, North – Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Laos – Lao People's Democratic Republic
Nepal – Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal
São Tomé and Príncipe – Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe
Sri Lanka – Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka

My usual about Trumptards: I have never seen a Trumptard who knew that 1860 and 2025 Democrats are the exact opposite of each other, but that is not surprising because Trumptards can't adapt to the environment they live in, which is why they struggle so hard to prosper and hold their jobs and their families together in America.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 9:40 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Without access to their research and taking the time to go over it, I don't put any stock
at all into that graph. It's just a picture. I can slap the name of any institute I want
on any picture in Paint.NET and it would take me 10 seconds to do it.

I have heard those same words, approximately, from every Trumptard I have known. None of them can do anything in 10 seconds, 10 minutes, 10 hours, or 10 days because they are dumb as hell and don't know it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 9:41 PM

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Is Donald Trump doing the world a favour by isolating the United States?

May 20, 2025 11:48am EDT

By Shaun Narine, Professor of International Relations and Political Science, St. Thomas University (Canada)

https://theconversation.com/is-donald-trump-doing-the-world-a-favour-b
y-isolating-the-united-states-252671


Without the co-operation of the allies alienated by Trump, it may be harder for the U.S. to initiate conflict around the world as it often has since the end of the Cold War.

In response to Trump’s tariffs, China, South Korea and Japan have discussed a renewed free-trade arrangement. President Xi Jinping has toured Vietnam, Malaysia and Cambodia to encourage a common front against American actions. Asian states are wary of China, but they remain committed to global trade. The U.S. may be retreating from globalization, but the rest of the world is not.

America’s loosening grip

Readjusting the world economy away from the U.S. to a more diverse, evenly distributed economic model will be difficult and disruptive.

Nonetheless, loosening the American grip on global power is an essential first step towards achieving a more just and balanced international order.

For putting this process in motion, the world may owe Trump a measure of thanks.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 9:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
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Your posts are evil. You are retarded.

Keep crying bitch. You're finished.

6ix, I don't have to have lived around the Confederate slave-owners to know they deserved death for what they were.



They were all Democrats. They all voted Democrat.

The "Democrats" of 1860 are not connected to the Democrats of 2025.



Neither are the Democrats of 1960.

Wake the fuck up already.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 9:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Without access to their research and taking the time to go over it, I don't put any stock
at all into that graph. It's just a picture. I can slap the name of any institute I want
on any picture in Paint.NET and it would take me 10 seconds to do it.

I have heard those same words, approximately, from every Trumptard I have known. None of them can do anything in 10 seconds, 10 minutes, 10 hours, or 10 days because they are dumb as hell and don't know it.



Awwwwwwwww...

Did somebwody get theiw feewings hwrt today?


Stop being a little bitch and I'll stop treating you like one.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 11:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Is Donald Trump doing the world a favour by isolating the United States?

May 20, 2025 11:48am EDT

By Shaun Narine, Professor of International Relations and Political Science, St. Thomas University (Canada)

https://theconversation.com/is-donald-trump-doing-the-world-a-favour-b
y-isolating-the-united-states-252671


Without the co-operation of the allies alienated by Trump, it may be harder for the U.S. to initiate conflict around the world as it often has since the end of the Cold War.

In response to Trump’s tariffs, China, South Korea and Japan have discussed a renewed free-trade arrangement. President Xi Jinping has toured Vietnam, Malaysia and Cambodia to encourage a common front against American actions. Asian states are wary of China, but they remain committed to global trade. The U.S. may be retreating from globalization, but the rest of the world is not.



This is a bullshit attempt at equivalency.

"Globalism" the way we were doing it was just that. One pure global system. Some sort of United Nations lording over all of us like the how the unelected Bureaucrats of the EU dictate to elected foreign leaders what they are to do.

China talking to Korea and Japan is not globalism. That is international communications that could lead to whatever it leads to. This goes on every single day worldwide despite the attempts of the old US guard and the WEF supervillains, let alone despite who's sitting in the oval office.

Globalism is Americans paying 3000 times for the same medication as the people in other countries do.

Fuck your communist utopia. That dream is dead.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 1:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


More racism and black fragility out of some black idiot working at Salon who will be unemployed soon...

https://www.salon.com/2025/05/20/the-next-stage-of-our-democracy-crisi
s-competitive-authoritarianism
/

Ya see... Black people were sounding the alarm about saving our country but the evil white devil people didn't listen to them and now we're all fucked.



Fuck you, racist cunt.

Why don't you worry about the record amount of black people who voted for Trump over any other Republican in history before you go blaming the white devil for whatever crying and whining you're going to do today.

Awwwwwww poor baby. You know you're never going to get those reparations you don't deserve a penny of and you hate me for it. I can feel that hate.

I feed off of it.

It is delicious.


If you ever want to start something, the White Devil will be sitting right here waiting to finish it.





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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 2:15 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Today, that fat fucking bastard of a President is bringing back The Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), "Star Wars," except he is calling it "Golden Dome". Star Wars could not be built when Reagan was President, and it still cannot be built, but stupid Trumptards want it because they are rotten people who fearfully believe in a fantasy defense system. Essentially, Trumptards are cowards who want a Golden Dome to protect them from even thinking about their well-deserved deaths ... from the missiles of their many enemies.




Huh?
So, since ALL Americans are potential targets of foreign missiles, are you saying that all Americans are Trumptards? That all Americans deserve to die?


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AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA


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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 7:07 AM

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Today, that fat fucking bastard of a President is bringing back The Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), "Star Wars," except he is calling it "Golden Dome". Star Wars could not be built when Reagan was President, and it still cannot be built, but stupid Trumptards want it because they are rotten people who fearfully believe in a fantasy defense system. Essentially, Trumptards are cowards who want a Golden Dome to protect them from even thinking about their well-deserved deaths ... from the missiles of their many enemies.




Huh?
So, since ALL Americans are potential targets of foreign missiles, are you saying that all Americans are Trumptards? That all Americans deserve to die?

Trump said it which means the opposite is true: “This design for the Golden Dome will integrate with our existing defense capabilities and should be fully operational before the end of my term, so we’ll have it done in about three years,” Trump said during a press conference in the Oval Office.

https://defensescoop.com/2025/05/20/trump-golden-dome-cost-175-billion
-fully-operational-three-years
/

Just so you know, Signym, fully operational means the whole system, for the whole country, not just Washington DC, is up and running. I am not a traveler from the future, but that promise is impossible. Trump only made it to get complete support from the fearful Trumptards, scared of everything.

By the way, the cost will be in the $trillions, not $billions. But then the real point of the project is to make venture capitalists wealthier than ever before. The best part is that nobody will know that the system doesn't work until it is too late and the USA is being hit by thousands of nukes simultaneously dropping from the sky. It is the perfect boondoggle: the price is stupendous, the insane customer (that is Trumptards) will pay any price because the customer is terrorized by the thought of death, and the inadequacy of the product can not be detected.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 7:33 AM

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A Liz Truss Moment for America?
Financial indicators are flashing yellow

By Paul Krugman | May 21, 2025

https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/a-liz-truss-moment-for-america

Despite hitting a few speed bumps, Congress seems likely to pass Donald Trump’s “big, beautiful bill” — legislation that combines big tax cuts for the rich with vicious cuts in social programs — within a few days. This momentous move will take place with almost no public discussion; the final hearing of the House Rules Committee began at 1 AM this morning. That’s right, 1 AM. We’re clearly watching a bum’s rush, an attempt to ram this atrocity through before the public understands what’s happening.

I have already focused on the bill’s cruelty. It’s also deeply irresponsible, undermining America’s hard-won reputation as a country that honors its obligations. The cuts to Medicaid and food stamps won’t come close to offsetting the revenue loss from the tax cuts for the rich. Neither will revenue from tariffs. And can we all now acknowledge that DOGE’s promise to eliminate hundreds of billions in “waste, fraud and abuse” hasn’t just failed? It has ended up being a complete waste of time, which it has tried to conceal with fraudulent claims of achievement, all while abusing dedicated civil servants and driving them out of government in ways that will impoverish America in the long run — and maybe not that long. We’re a world leader in education, science and technology that is systematically destroying the very basis of our success.

So we’re looking at a large increase in an already high budget deficit when we’re already at full employment, interest rates are already at multiyear highs, and future growth prospects are declining.

Financial markets normally cut wealthy nations with stable governments a lot of slack, with reason. Rich, well governed countries have immense ability to raise revenues if needed, especially if, like the United States, you collect a smaller percentage of GDP in taxes than almost any other advanced economy:

Source: OECD

In other words, until now markets have believed that the U.S. has the resources to deal with its deficit whenever it musters the political will. And bond buyers have been willing to assume that we are a serious country that will eventually get its fiscal house in order.

But markets’ patience with American dysfunction isn’t unlimited. Consider how quickly things went wrong for the UK. In 2022 Liz Truss, Britain’s Prime Minister, announced a “mini-budget” that involved cutting taxes and blowing up the budget deficit. Markets freaked out: long-term interest rates soared and the pound plunged. The tabloid The Daily Star famously set up a webcam showing a photo of Truss next to a head of iceberg lettuce wearing a wig, and asked which would last longer.

The lettuce won, because Britain’s parliamentary system allowed it to get rid of a disastrous leader. We, unfortunately, can’t.

So are we facing a Liz Truss moment in America? Long-term interest rates are close to their highest level in many years:


The dollar, which rose after Trump’s election, has now fallen sharply:

Source: xe.com

These market movements, especially in combination, are disturbing and at least hints that something like a Truss moment may be looming. We saw a whiff of that after Trump’s Liberation Day tariffs; what happens when markets realize that the budget is, in its own way, just as bad?

First, interest rates: deficit spending often does drive long-term interest rates up. But normally that’s because investors expect the spending to cause an inflationary boom, which the Federal Reserve will try to contain by raising short-term rates. That’s what happened when Ronald Reagan cut taxes while increasing military spending. Here’s an estimate of the real interest rate on 10-year bonds, where the real rate is the nominal rate minus expected inflation, which I proxy with actual core inflation over the previous year:

This time around most people expect the Fed to cut rather than raise short-term rates, because uncertainty over Trump’s tariff policies seems certain to cause an economic slowdown and possibly a recession. So why are long-term rates up?

Furthermore, a rise in U.S. interest rates normally causes the dollar to rise, as it did in the Reagan years. After all, higher rates should make investing in America more attractive, pulling in foreign capital and pushing the dollar up. But this time the dollar has been heading down.

So what’s going on? The Truss moment in Britain was partly caused by technical issues involving pension funds. But we may be facing technical issues of our own, especially involving hedge funds. In a larger sense Britain’s crisis was driven by a loss of credibility. Truss clearly believed in American-style voodoo economics, the belief that tax cuts have magical powers. Investors didn’t share that belief, so they effectively voted for the lettuce.

Unlike retail investors who are often driven by vibes, investment pros have clear doubts about Donald Trump’s credibility. The price of US credit default swaps — which are supposed to protect investors if America fails to honor its debt, and are an indicator of market pros’ sentiment — has surged:

Source: Worldgovernmentbonds.com

These market moves in bonds and swaps show that the Trump administration is losing credibility, just as the Truss government did. Professional investors are ceasing to treat us as a serious country.

Instead, they’re starting to treat us like an emerging market, where budget deficits are a sign that things are spinning out of control. This irresponsible bill is already being seen as a signal to sell America, leading to higher interest rates, increasing odds of a recession, and a weaker dollar. And the example of Britain shows that things could spiral out of control faster than almost anyone imagines.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 7:49 AM

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Trump Says Birthright Citizenship Is Only 'About the Babies of Slaves.' Historical Evidence Says Otherwise.

The 1866 debate over birthright citizenship included a debate over immigration.

By Damon Root | 5.20.2025 11:38 AM

https://reason.com/2025/05/20/trump-says-birthright-citizenship-is-onl
y-about-the-babies-of-slaves-historical-evidence-says-otherwise
/

Trump may think that birthright citizenship is only "about the babies of slaves." But as these statements from the 1866 debates make clear, the historical evidence proves him wrong.

Congressional debate shows that it was understood that birthright citizenship would apply to the U.S.-born children of unpopular immigrants.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 2:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Trump Says Birthright Citizenship Is Only 'About the Babies of Slaves.' Historical Evidence Says Otherwise.

The 1866 debate over birthright citizenship included a debate over immigration.

By Damon Root | 5.20.2025 11:38 AM

https://reason.com/2025/05/20/trump-says-birthright-citizenship-is-onl
y-about-the-babies-of-slaves-historical-evidence-says-otherwise
/

Trump may think that birthright citizenship is only "about the babies of slaves." But as these statements from the 1866 debates make clear, the historical evidence proves him wrong.

Congressional debate shows that it was understood that birthright citizenship would apply to the U.S.-born children of unpopular immigrants.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




We're kicking every last one of them out, America-hater.

At least your Liberal shit magazines are admitting that the "immigrants" are "unpopular" in 2025.

They are invaders. None of them belong here. They will all be removed.

Every last one of them and their kids.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 2:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Democratic Rep. Gerry Connolly dies at 75

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gerry-connolly-dead-age-75-virginia-democ
rat
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Another dead Democrat. 3 of them, actually.

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Connolly is the third House Democrat to die this year. Rep. Sylvester Turner of Texas died on March 4, and Rep. Raul Grijalva of Arizona died on March 13.


I think we can stick a fork in Second's prediction that Democrats never get sick and die because they vote Democrat.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 2:05 PM

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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 4:08 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I think we can stick a fork in Second's prediction that Democrats never get sick and die because they vote Democrat.

My prediction was that stupid assholes die early. My observation was that all Trumptards I know are stupid assholes of a special class, the semi-humans who can't adapt to America as it is. I have not known all Trumptards, but of the thousands I have known, all were stupid assholes who were convinced they are smart, competent, and sane, but they aren't.

The thing that stupid asshole 6ix gets wrong over and over is the erroneous notion that I am claiming only Trumptards are assholes. Some people are sickly and assholes and die early, but they are not Trumptards. For example, the entertainment industry is full of assholes, many of them overdosing or alcoholic or criminally careless about their health, but very few are Trumptards.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 4:08 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


These Law Firms Should Sue Trump for Racketeering From the Oval Office

By Jonathan Zasloff | May 21, 2025 3:21 PM

Jonathan Zasloff is professor of law at the UCLA School of Law

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/05/sue-trump-oval-office-rack
eteering.html


Donald Trump has never been exactly shy about his criminal behavior, but now he has taken to proudly proclaiming it. In his recent Time magazine interview, the president basically confessed to extortion:

You’ve used threats and lawsuits, other forms of coercion—

Well, I’ve gotta be doing something right, because I’ve had a lot of law firms give me a lot of money.

Now, extortion is a crime. But who cares, right? Trump isn’t going to prosecute himself. The good news is, he doesn’t have to. Holding him legally accountable doesn’t require prosecution. Trump’s actions open up him and his aides to a powerful form of civil liability that will make clear that they are, in fact, criminals: civil RICO.

Enacted by Congress in 1970 to attack organized crime, the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act makes it ‘‘unlawful for any person employed by or associated with any enterprise … to conduct or participate, directly or indirectly, in the conduct of such enterprise’s affairs through a pattern of racketeering activity.”

That sounds intricate, and it is: RICO is a complex statute. But it’s a powerful one. Courts have described civil RICO as “an unusually potent weapon—the litigation equivalent of a thermonuclear device,” because it stigmatizes the defendant as a racketeer, opens them up to treble damages, and allows for vast discovery of their criminal network. And here, it suits precisely what Trump is doing. Let’s look at two critical provisions:

What is an “enterprise,” for the purposes of the statute? RICO defines it as “any individual, partnership, corporation, association or other legal entity, and any union or group of individuals associated in fact although not a legal entity.” What would that be here? Well, it would be Trump and his aides (and potentially Cabinet and sub-Cabinet officials), who have planned and executed his program of extortion and solicitation of bribery. That could be an “association in fact.”

What is “a pattern of racketeering activity,” per the statute? Simply put, it is two or more commissions of “predicate acts,” which are crimes listed in the statute. Trump’s actions fit snugly within these acts. Consider:

Extortion. As I have argued in these pages, Trump has committed state-law extortion felonies through his threats against and coercion of law firms, as well as universities. RICO includes these crimes as predicate acts.

Bribery and its solicitation. Bribery might be the central operating principle of Trump’s second term, from domestic and foreign sources alike. The marketing of a personal meme coin, and the granting of an audience to a select group of the highest contributors, is essentially a way of funneling money directly to the Trump family and to the president himself—as if the buying up of suites at the Trump Hotel, or the paying of millions of dollars to sit near him at Mar-a-Lago, had not already done so. Not to mention a $400 million plane from Qatar.

Obstruction of justice. 18 USC Section 1503 makes it a felony to endeavor to “influence, intimidate, or impede” any officer of the court (this includes judges) and contains an omnibus clause criminalizing the obstruction of the “due administration of justice.” Here, the endeavors are public. Despite the Supreme Court’s order to facilitate the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the United States, the administration has declared that he is never coming home. Stephen Miller has recently threatened to (illegally) suspend habeas corpus unless judges “do the right thing,” and Trump himself has threatened judges with impeachment.

For most of these charges, we obviously lack all the precise details. In the bribery charge, for example, we do not know the exact understandings between Trump and those who just so happen to be lavishing him and his family with expensive gifts and sweetheart development deals. But that is what a lawsuit is for. It will permit discovery of key documents and the ability to depose the key players (who could be subject to perjury charges if they lie).

Federal courts have shown hostility to civil RICO claims, and it is not hard to see why. One predicate crime is “fraud,” and that has deluged courts with civil lawsuits alleging fraud in securities sales and marketing, which for the most part is far from what the statute contemplates. As one court remarked, “Plaintiffs wielding RICO almost always miss the mark.” Another court complained, ‘‘Plaintiffs have often been overzealous in pursuing RICO claims, flooding federal courts by dressing up run-of-the-mill fraud claims as RICO violations.’’

A case against Trump and his associates, however, carries none of these problems. Their actions represent classic examples of organized crime activity: bribery, extortion, and obstruction of justice (although discovery might also look into the possibility of purposeful stock manipulation through constant changes in tariffs, as well as money laundering from Russian sources). And it would fit snugly within the traditional contours of the law. Under RICO, federal prosecution has frequently targeted public officials who use their office for personal gain, including governors, members of Congress, mayors, and state legislators throughout the country.

However, like any recent legal attempt to create some accountability for Donald Trump, this would be no slam dunk.

Critically, in 1981 the Supreme Court immunized presidents from civil damages for actions taken in office within the “outer bounds” of presidential authority. What is that outer bound? We don’t know. But we do know that E. Jean Carroll successfully sued Trump for defamation when, as president, he denied her allegations that he had sexually assaulted her, and that was conceivably good enough to beat civil immunity.

More importantly, while SCOTUS immunized presidents against civil damages, it allowed suits for declaratory and injunctive relief. So even if precedent applies, the case should go forward.

And very significantly, even if the president is fully immunized against damages, his associates are not. Attorney General Pam Bondi just opined that Trump’s acceptance of a $400 million 747 from Qatar was perfectly legal: She has thus made herself part of Trump’s bribery scheme. If staffers are found liable, they could be on the hook for treble damages and attorneys fees. And that could make them vulnerable to settling and testifying.

There are two other significant questions about any such lawsuit:

Who is the plaintiff? Trump’s racketeering is so broad that various aspects might appear to have little to do with one another; threatening law firms with extinction does not necessarily connect with threatening judges. But they are linked: His intimidation of and threats against judges make it more likely that they will rule against targeted law firms and thus assist his extortion. Trump’s bribery scheme assists some firms by funneling work to them while blocking others. So Perkins Coie, Jenner & Block, and WilmerHale all could be plaintiffs in all three areas. Similarly, Harvard University is hurt by Trump’s extortion and his threats against judges.

Doesn’t Trump always seem to beat these raps? Trump has indeed shown himself to be the Teflon Don. Things that would have obliterated other figures slide off him: A New York court ruled that he raped Carroll, and the story lasted less than a day in the news.

But accepting that is a recipe for passivity. According to that line of thinking, no one should protest, no one should bother to vote, no one should contribute money to campaigns or pro-democracy organizations. If there were a silver bullet, someone would have found it already.

Conservatives have learned this lesson well: continue relentless pressure even if it does not always succeed. America’s new authoritarianism did not spring from nowhere; it comes from a decadeslong movement conservatism campaign to subvert democracy, one that used implacable attacks on a variety of fronts even in the face of crushing electoral defeats. Pro-democracy forces would do well to learn such a lesson and not negotiate against themselves. A civil RICO case against the racketeer in chief should be part of any effort to save this country from Trump’s dictatorial aspirations, which are coming closer to reality every day.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 4:13 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I think we can stick a fork in Second's prediction that Democrats never get sick and die because they vote Democrat.

My prediction was that stupid assholes die early.



No. That wasn't your prediction.

Everybody remembers what you've said about Democrats because you've said it hundreds of times over the years. Fast-Forward to 2025 and here we are watching all of them die off along with your dead party.

Awwwwwww



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Wednesday, May 21, 2025 4:15 PM

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These Law Firms Should Sue Trump for Racketeering From the Oval Office



Do it bitch.

Just more cases for Trump to win at this point.

You're fucked. Your party is dead, the media is abandoning you and you have nothing but the scorn of American Citizens all pointing at you and your kind.

You should pack your bags and leave my country.

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