Russkie MARS FLIGHT Mission Doomed To FAILURE by out2theblack

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Russkie MARS FLIGHT Mission Doomed To FAILURE

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UPDATED: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 06:40
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Monday, March 22, 2010 12:24 PM

' "I think you've got to be a little bit crazy to undertake this venture, but it's a healthy craziness," said Diego Urbina, a 26-year-old electronic engineer from Italy.

"I will definitely miss my family and friends, and Nature itself - all the things we take for granted here on Earth, such as the internet. And girls - that's something I'll definitely miss," he told BBC News.

"It is literally isolated compared to ISS where you have a lot of arriving and departing vehicles, and at least three of the crew being exchanged every two or four months at least.

"[On the ISS,] you have basically unlimited contact with the ground and you always have new experiments. Whereas on the Mars simulation, you will depart with a certain set of experiments, consumables and equipment - and the door never opens." '

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8579277.stm

Looks like one crew member may not be gay...But , no girls ?

Where's that get fun ?

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Monday, March 22, 2010 12:40 PM

BYTEMITE

I'm not sure, but I think Russians prescribe to some old fashioned ideas about women and soldiers, which can be easily expanded to astronauts.

And if that kinda mindset is in place, might actually be a good thing there aren't any female crew members. Theoretically, the women wouldn't be there to provide entertainment, which is blatantly what one of the men says he'd be looking for. That causes friction in close quarters.

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Monday, March 22, 2010 12:42 PM

TRAVELER

What about gravity. That is going to have an effect on any mission to Mars.

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Traveler

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Monday, March 22, 2010 12:42 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by out2theblack:

Looks like one crew member may not be gay...But , no girls ?

Where's that get fun ?

" It is very cold..... in space."

Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor

Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Monday, March 22, 2010 1:55 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I'm not sure, but I think Russians prescribe to some old fashioned ideas about women and soldiers, which can be easily expanded to astronauts.

And if that kinda mindset is in place, might actually be a good thing there aren't any female crew members. Theoretically, the women wouldn't be there to provide entertainment, which is blatantly what one of the men says he'd be looking for. That causes friction in close quarters.

Byte, I'm not sure what you're getting at about the Russian attitudes towards women, but they've been VERY pro-active in putting women soldiers into action, as well as women cosmonauts. And those women were in the fiercest of the fighting, and were hellishly feared by the Nazis, who thought a woman's place was in the home rearing the next generation!

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Monday, March 22, 2010 2:03 PM

MINCINGBEAST

Kwicko, the russian attitude towards women in the workplace is not exactly progressive. It is, in fact, exactly barbaric.

Also worth noting that there has never been a successful sex harassment suit in russia, and there really isn't an equivalent of EP over there...

"If we had no sexual harassment we would have no children" actual quote from a Russian judge.

Sauce for teh quote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/05/russian-judge-rules-sexua_n_1
17071.html

EDIT: I have notes for a presentation i did on the subject, if you're interested, but its worth noting that future litigants will probably have to rely upon treaties that russia signed on to as a cause of action for sexual harassment or gender discrimination, because, well, sexual harassment is basically legal in russia. ;)

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Monday, March 22, 2010 2:05 PM

BYTEMITE

Hmmn, okay, actually wasn't sure on that. Just speculating. Sometimes the darts miss... Ducking is a preferable alternative to impalement. *nod*

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Monday, March 22, 2010 3:15 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Hmmn, okay, actually wasn't sure on that. Just speculating. Sometimes the darts miss... Ducking is a preferable alternative to impalement. *nod*

No impalement. No ducking needed. I knew some of the history of the women in their military and space programs - it was supposed to be a *peoples'* paradise, after all, not just a male worker's paradise. Mincing brings up valuable and important info, too, which I hadn't realized was the case there. Seems if the old USSR ever really *was* progressive in its attitudes towards women, that didn't last. Pity.

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:32 AM

CITIZEN

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What about gravity. That is going to have an effect on any mission to Mars.

Long term exposure to micro-gravity has already been explored somewhat on the space stations. There are important questions about a trip to Mars this will answer, and besides it's possible to generate "gravity" anyway, and I imagine that will be done in any trip to Mars.

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:40 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

It makes me think about "Stranger in a Strange Land" where the the Mars mission was picked to be a group of emotionally stable couples as the most survivable group. Whatever 'emotionally stable' means and however you test for it.

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