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Sunday, March 13, 2011 3:09 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


...the dominos are still teetering:
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For the second time in two days, security forces fired live ammunition and lobbed tear gas during protests in Change Square outside Sanaa University on Sunday, Ala'a Al-Khowlani, a witness at the scene, said.

Other witnesses told CNN that at least 10 people were injured.

The clashes began after pro-government demonstrators and security forces set up a road block preventing anti-government protesters from entering Change Square, witnesses said. While protesters were allowed to leave, they were not allowed to re-enter.

Anti-government protesters demanded they be allowed in, and tensions heightened when they forced themselves through the road block, witnesses said. After the protesters made their way in, the shooting started and tear gas was used, they reported.

According to Al-Khowlani, some believe that security forces and police dressed as civilians were shooting into the crowd from nearby rooftops.

In Aden City on Sunday, four protesters were injured by security forces gunfire, witnesses there said.

One day earlier, three people in Aden City died from gunshot wounds when security forces tried to disperse an anti-government rally, a medical official with the group Youth for Change said. A fourth person was killed in Dar Saad, in Aden Province, when a group of anti-government protesters stormed a government complex and set a police station on fire, the medical official said.

A Yemeni Interior Ministry official acknowledged that one person was killed by security forces, but said those who raided the complex were gang members and not protesters.

Regarding the killings in Aden City, a security official called the demonstrators "separatists" rather than protesters, and would not comment on the alleged shootings by security forces.

"The government is trying to keep people as safe as possible," the official said.

Across Yemen, high unemployment fuels much of the anger among a growing young population steeped in poverty. The protesters also cite government corruption and a lack of political freedom.

On Thursday, President Ali Abdullah Saleh -- who has promised not to run for president in the next round of elections -- pledged to bring a new constitution to a vote by the end of the year and transfer government power to an elected parliamentary system.

Human Rights Watch released a statement Saturday, calling on countries that support Saleh to make aid contingent on the government stopping its attacks on demonstrators.

"President Saleh has once again broken his promise to end attacks on peaceful protesters, and those who supply his government with weapons risk complicity in this bloodshed," said Joe Stork, deputy Middle East and North Africa director at the rights organization

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/03/13/yemen.protests/index.html?hp
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Sunday, March 13, 2011 3:20 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


The Middle East is still boiling, too, just in case anyone forgot:
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BAHRAIN

Hundreds of people were injured in Bahrain Friday, when rival groups clashed over an attempted march in the town of Riffa, a residential area where the ruling Al-Khalifa family lives.

The national health ministry said 774 people were injured and 107 were hospitalized in the wake of the fighting.

SAUDI ARABIA

Hundreds turned out in two Saudi Arabian cities Friday to protest on what had been billed as a "day of rage," according to activists, though a planned demonstration in the Middle Eastern nation's capital failed to materialize.

The protests -- both made up largely of Shiite Muslims calling for the release of Shiite prisoners -- occurred despite a Saudi government ban on all kinds of public demonstrations.

Demonstrators in Hofuf, a city about 300 kilometers (185 miles) east of the Saudi capital of Riyadh, began their march after Friday prayers, two activists told CNN.

By Friday night, about 200 people were out demonstrating near Qatif, a predominantly Shiite city in eastern Saudi Arabia where several protests have taken place in recent days.

These protests come a day after three people were injured when Saudi security forces fired on scores of protesters in the city of Qatif, according to two witnesses and an activist.

YEMEN

John Brennan, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official and an assistant to President Barack Obama, spoke with Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh, calling on all sectors in the country to engage in serious dialogue to end the current impasse, a White House statement said Friday.

Saleh said he hoped the opposition in Yemen would participate in talks with the government and promised not to use violence against peaceful protesters, the statement said.

LIBYA

The military forces of Moammar Gadhafi on Friday pounded Ras Lanuf, the key oil port once in the hands of rebel forces, with its leadership confidently vowing to retake all territory from the opposition despite growing international pressure.

Libyan Deputy Foreign Minister Khaled Kaim said Friday that Libya has suspended diplomatic relations with France, one day after the French government recognized the newly created Libyan opposition movement as the sole representative of the country.

U.S. President Barack Obama reiterated Friday that he wants the Libyan leader to "step down." He added that he "won't take (the) decision lightly" to decide whether to use military force, including helping enforce a no-fly zone, saying it is critical to "balance costs versus benefits."

MOROCCO

Morocco's King Mohamed VI has pledged sweeping constitutional reforms as neighboring nations face violent uprisings demanding more democracy.

In a rare television appearance on Wednesday, March 9, the king said reforms would include a prime minister elected from the party that wins the most seats in parliament.

The U.S. government applauded the moves, with State Department spokesman Mark Toner saying the decision marks "a moment of profound change."

TUNISIA

A Tunisian court issued a ruling Wednesday, March 9 dissolving the Rally for Constitutional Democracy, the party of ousted President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali.

This is "an accomplishment to the Tunisian revolution and to the Tunisians who had always suffered from this party," said Rabeea Ben Taareet, a Tunisian lawyer.

This comes after Tunisia's Interior Ministry announced Monday, March 7 that it is dissolving its "political police" and the entire State Security Division, which was widely unpopular under the former regime, according to the country's news agency, Tunis Afrique Presse.

EGYPT

Nobel Peace laureate Mohamed ElBaradei announced that he will run for president in upcoming elections. The dissident reformist who served as director-general of the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog agency from 1997 to 2009, announced his decision on ONTV, a privately owned Egyptian television channel.

Pro-democracy activists in Cairo's Tahrir Square endured waves of attacks by people armed with machetes, knives, Molotov cocktails and horsewhips, according to opposition forces and witnesses.

The assaults, which began late Tuesday, March 8, left at least 44 people injured, opposition activists said.

The violence continued into Wednesday, March 9, in the square, which was the center of the Egyptian protest movement that led to the removal of President Hosni Mubarak last month

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES

A group of 133 United Arab Emirates nationals have petitioned the president of the country for direct elections, one of the petitioners said Wednesday, March 9. The group includes academics, former government officials, journalists and activists, said Ahmed Mansoor, one of the petitioners.

MAURITANIA

At least 18 people were injured Tuesday, March 8, during protests in the Mauritanian capital, Nouakchott, a hospital official said.
Riot police with tear gas and sticks cracked down on a peaceful sit-in organized by hundreds of youth in the heart of the capital. Police occupied a city square and prevented the youth from coming to it.

Rabi Ould Idoumou, one of the leaders of the opposition movement, said protests will continue as long as the people endure unemployment and poverty.

"Social, political and economic reforms must be made in Mauritania as soon as possible. Otherwise, the protests will continue," he said.

IRAN

Security forces in Iran's capital used tear gas to disperse protesters near Revolution Square Tuesday, March 8, according to the website of opposition leader Mir Hossein Moussavi.

Iran's opposition movement called for demonstrations to mark International Women's Day, and the security presence and car honking was widespread throughout Tehran.

Thousands of Basij security forces patrolled Revolution Square and other major squares and intersections in Tehran. Security agents were seen ripping off the license plate of one car that was honking.

The driver apologized and the plate was returned. Two young women in a car said something to several members of the Basij. The agents took out cell phones and photographed their license plate before they drove off.

Some of those patrolling appeared to be teens.

SYRIA

A prominent Syrian human rights lawyer has been released from prison.

Attorney Haitham Maleh -- arrested in October 2009 during a government crackdown on lawyers and activists -- has been freed, his son told CNN Tuesday, March 8.

"I just talked to him on (the) phone and he was on his way home," Iyas Maleh said, confirming the release.

The release came as Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad issued pardons for prisoners, including some who are elderly and ill. Such pardons are made annually during this time of year, the anniversary of the Baathist party seizure of power in Syria.

The 80-year-old Maleh and other prisoners were not identified in a Syrian News Agency report announcing the pardons. The move comes amid demands by many restive citizens for more economic prosperity, political freedom and civil liberty.

IRAQ

Masked attackers burned tents of protesters overnight in the main city of Iraq's Kurdistan region, police said Sunday, March 6.

Hundreds of demonstrators gathered later in the day in Sulaimaniya for another protest against Massoud Barzani, president of the Kurdistan regional government, witnesses told CNN.

The unrest in northern Iraq that erupted three weeks ago has killed five people and injured 158 so far, said the head of the emergency health department, Dr. Nozad Ahmed.

Separately, the head of an independent Kurdish radio station in Kalar, 150 kilometers (93 miles) south of Sulaimaniya, said that gunmen attacked the broadcast facility and destroyed or stole equipment overnight.

Protesters in the Kurdish region, mostly in Sulaimaniya, are demanding political reforms from Barzani's regional government and the ruling Kurdistan Democratic Party. Like protests in other areas of Iraq, the demonstrators also complain of corruption, unemployment and poor public services.

ELSEWHERE

Sporadic demonstrations have erupted in recent weeks in other Middle Eastern and northern African nations, such as Algeria, Djibouti, Jordan, Morocco, Oman, Kuwait and Sudan, and in the Palestinian territories.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/10/middle.east.africa.unrest/i
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Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Sunday, March 13, 2011 3:56 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Obama has real issues to worry about.

Grade school bullying, and now he's go to go find new State Dept. spokesman.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, March 13, 2011 4:01 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


What the fuck does that even MEAN? And what possible relationship does it have to news of the Middle East?

No, wait, don't answer that, it's not worth wondering...or DO go ahead and answer it, I can use the laugh.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Monday, March 14, 2011 12:06 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Niki2:

What the fuck does that even MEAN? And what possible relationship does it have to news of the Middle East?

No, wait, don't answer that, it's not worth wondering...or DO go ahead and answer it, I can use the laugh.




LANGUAGE !

And an excellent point you just made! While Libya and Egypt and the rest of the Middle East descend into civil war, our glorious community activist, leader of the free world, was holding a WHITE HOUSE conference on - bullying.

Yes, while Gadaffi was strafing civilians with jet fighters, Obama was concerned with bullies who take other kid's lunch money and dole out purple nurples.

I'm not downplaying the issue of bullying, but seriously ? The PRESIDENT doesn't need to be wasting his time on such matters as bullying when we have actual real world bullies who are killing their own.

Of course, wasting time is generally what this President loves to do. Vacations, parties, lavish dinners and lookie here... Obama has put in more time on the golf course in his first 9 months in office than Bush did in 8 years.

From 2009 -

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President Barack Obama has only been in office for just over nine months, but he's already hit the links as much as President Bush did in over two years.

CBS' Mark Knoller — an unofficial documentarian and statistician of all things White House-related — wrote on his Twitter feed that, "Today - Obama ties Pres. Bush in the number of rounds of golf played in office: 24.

Took Bush 2 yrs & 10 months."

This news comes on the heels of today's news that Obama played golf with a woman — chief domestic policy adviser Melody Barnes — for the first time since taking office.



To date, he's logged in something like 60 rounds of golf in just 2 years now. At an average of 5 hrs per round, and not counting time spent on the driving range or practice green, Obama has spent almost 2 solid weeks,24/7, doing nothing but playing golf. Wow. Real tough gig if you can get it, huh ?


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Monday, March 14, 2011 4:44 AM

BYTEMITE


On the other hand, about all I DO trust this President with is inaction and speeches about domestic issues, so hey. If he doesn't get involved, the less he can mess things up.

In regards to the Middle East, there are a number of things that concern me. The continuing violence and entrenched power bases reneging on promises, especially the likely hood that promises to reform constitutions were mere lip-service and will never happen. (Not that I didn't see that coming)

But just as concerning, the possibility that the opposition represents not just concerned citizens, but takeover from foreign interests.

Egypt in particular is suspicious, especially who has come forward to run for the opposition and his ties to the U.N., and Iran is also a little suspicious.

I've been afraid of this since I heard about the protests, and more and more I think I have confirmation that I'm not wrong.

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Monday, March 14, 2011 6:27 AM

FREMDFIRMA


And where was your dumb ass when Shrub was slacking off ?
Oh, that's right, cheering it on, as usual - fucking moron.
Also, while the inherent logic of this will be lost on you, it ain't you I am really crankin it out for - although if it helps any you can print it out and eat it, maybe learn something by osmosis since nothin else seems to work.

Now, as I pointed out in the Lower Merion thread, once it became clear that the whole situation had little if anything to do with Blake, and everything to do with community aggression against his parents - where did anyone ever get the dumbass idea that bullying STOPS at graduation ?

Oh hell no, those same motherfuckers then gravitate towards positions where they can be even MORE abusive to others, homeowners organisations, development authorities, local government, police forces, wherever they can have the power to crush others under their heel - and unfortunately all too often they not only acheive this, but are welcomed with open arms since our society rewards that behavior, in part BECAUSE it has been allowed to go on so long that by now the sociopaths are the ones running our society.
http://www.strike-the-root.com/91/groves/groves1.html

The site name is especially ironic, cause what the hell else could you call trying to prevent our society from fucking up their kids to the point where they think harming others for gain or amusement is a good idea, but striking at the very roots of tyranny via prevention of the formation of would-be tyrants and their slobbering jackbooted hordes like Rappy, here.

So yes, it fucking MATTERS - in fact, one could say it's entirely appropriate to the situation to focus on preventing the next wave of tyrants from getting a foothold so we don't face the endless cycle of their rise to power and the necessity of casting them down - if dickheads like Ghadafi never get a leg up, if we learn to not let that happen, it never comes to having to throw them out, does it ?

Besides which, the Libyans don't WANT our "help", and I don't blame them one fucking bit given what it'd cost - having Ghadafi replaced with some even-worse propped up US puppet-dictator like Pinochet, The Shah, Saddam, Papa Doc, etc.. would make their struggle effectively meaningless, since then they'd wind up not only fighting local forces, but the US Armed Forces and all their little merc buddies like DynCorp, Triple Canopy and Blackwater too - fuck that noise, especially as they seem to be winning right now, just not easily.

Anyhows, addressing the concern of how tyrants are created, cutting them off from power before they BECOME tyrants, is an entirely appropriate use of the presidents time and effort, and in my opinion a far better one than mucking about in other peoples countries we have no moral or legal right to even BE in, much less trying to set policy for.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, March 14, 2011 6:51 AM

DREAMTROVE


I assume this is all CIA. These people have hated their dictators for decades, but now we have a trade treaty for them to sign...

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Monday, March 14, 2011 4:33 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Too bad that no fly zone wasn't implamented over Libya. But yes, things do continue happening all over the world, especially in the middle east.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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