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Texas Tax funds public welfare Program

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Friday, September 2, 2011 3:39 AM

Freedom is Important because People are Important

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/08/26/texas.sin.tax/index.html?hpt=ju_t3

Hello,

Despite the protests of those being taxed, Texas upholds its right to tax businesses in order to fund its welfare programs.

--Anthony

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“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Friday, September 2, 2011 4:05 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

I wonder if they'll start taxing the patrons of fundie Christian churches to discourage their "negative secondary effects" such as homophobia, racism, bigotry, etc.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, September 2, 2011 4:59 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Hee, hee, hee, good one Anthony! Y'think they would have come up with a "sin" tax for the ultra-wealthy? The disparity in earnings is certainly a "sin" in my view...

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Friday, September 2, 2011 5:05 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

Well, I don't think it's a sin to be rich. But I am amused to see how quickly puritanical beliefs can cause a fiscally conservative population to institute taxes on small business owners.

Apparently, everything is bigger in Texas... even Hypocrisy.

--Anthony

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“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Friday, September 2, 2011 5:12 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Well, I don't think it's a sin to be rich.

--Anthony

There was this dude a while back, called himself "the Prince of Peace" who had a few words on that subject. Something about a camel and the eye of a needle, among other stuff I recall. If he didn't call it flat out sinful, he certainly disapproved.
'Course the guy was practically a hippie wierdo, and they nailed him to a tree. He had it coming...

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Friday, September 2, 2011 5:52 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

Well, the Bible is somewhat inconsistent on the topic.

Figures such as Job were gifted in such a way as to qualify them as 'rich' in their community, specifically granted such boons by the deity as a reward for faithful worship (and after enduring torturous hardship.)

Figures such as Solomon and David are not implied to be burning in hell, but certainly attained both wealth and power greater than their fellow man, and were variously favored by the deity.

--Anthony

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“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Friday, September 2, 2011 7:40 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
I wonder if they'll start taxing the patrons of fundie Christian churches to discourage their "negative secondary effects" such as homophobia, racism, bigotry, etc.

Given the level of government sponsorship of that religion I have repeatedly noted, and the fact that "unapproved" religions DO NOT get tax breaks...

AND the fact that some of that tax money taken from us and then HANDED TO THEM, sans accountability, funds atrocities like I have pointed out, time and time again...

Do you really think I'd have any problem with that ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, September 2, 2011 7:57 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Well, the Bible is somewhat inconsistent on the topic.

Figures such as Job were gifted in such a way as to qualify them as 'rich' in their community, specifically granted such boons by the deity as a reward for faithful worship (and after enduring torturous hardship.)

Figures such as Solomon and David are not implied to be burning in hell, but certainly attained both wealth and power greater than their fellow man, and were variously favored by the deity.

--Anthony

Seems, if I remember correctly, that there were TWO books in the Bible, and that Job, Solomon, and David were in the OLD version, and that the Prince of Peace was in the NEW one, given to re-interpret ( or even CORRECT) it.

Also , tho' he's not famous for it, I suspect that your man Gandhi had a few words to say about rich and poor.

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Friday, September 2, 2011 8:05 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I certainly grant you the freedom to interpret religion in the way that pleases you. I maintain that I do not feel that being rich is itself a sin, nor worthy of disdain, retribution, or punishment. "My Men" JC and Gandhi notwithstanding.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Friday, September 2, 2011 3:08 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Y'know, everything in that ruling could apply to the Catholic Church just as easily. They serve alcohol. There are secondary negative impacts (pedophilia, rape, etc.).

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Friday, September 2, 2011 3:16 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Y'know, everything in that ruling could apply to the Catholic Church just as easily. They serve alcohol. There are secondary negative impacts (pedophilia, rape, etc.).

Hello,

You'll get no argument from me. I have no love for the conduct of the Church. Not in antiquity, and not now.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Friday, September 2, 2011 5:07 PM

DREAMTROVE

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
I wonder if they'll start taxing the patrons of fundie Christian churches to discourage their "negative secondary effects" such as homophobia, racism, bigotry, etc.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

This cracked me up

I'd like to counter a tax on universities to discourage the secondary effects of alcoholism and socialism

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Monday, September 5, 2011 8:17 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

I don't think being rich is a sin. But I do think that having a lot of worldly posessions does present challenges that people need to be aware of, like not letting your stuff get in the way of making good choices, not placing it as more important than people and things that really matter in the longterm. That is how I interpret what Jesus says about it. I know someone for instance who is quite well off and has lots of beautiful things of all sorts. I really enjoy looking at her beautiful things, but she has become so focused on them that she's constantly afraid that she'll be robbed, she doesn't want to go anywhere overnight because she's afraid she'll come back and someone will have taken her stuff. Its starting to get in the way of maintaining her relationships properly. Part of the problem is old age brain differences setting in and muddling her thinking, but part of it is this attitude about worldly posessions that has gotten out of control and has become very problematic. Its not cool.

Just a side note.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, September 6, 2011 1:13 AM

DREAMTROVE

I see another problem with this: It enforces pimping. The cover structure is the main mechanism of pimping in strip clubs. Without it, you get more of a laisez faire environment where the girls work for themselves, instead of for the pimp.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, September 6, 2011 4:03 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I do not understand this pimping statement.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Tuesday, September 6, 2011 1:08 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Riona, once again you reflect what religion is SUPPOSED to teach, at its core, not how people interpret it to be. But that there were more of you running around!

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:23 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

Thanks Niki.

Hey DT a chara, did you mean to post in that thread about pimps in Germany? Because what you just said totally fits in with that line of thought, just wondering if you misposted, that has happened to me before.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, September 19, 2011 1:42 AM

KWICKO

So while the GOP candidates - including Perry - whine and cry about "class warfare" and about how taxing "one little segment of the economy can't help create jobs", they are indeed all for doing exactly that through things like this so-called "Titty Tax" in Texas.

So again we see the hypocrisy of the right - they're not against singling out groups for tax hikes, even when such tax hikes are to pay for "welfare" programs.

http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2011-09-02/stripper-tax-ruling-rev
ersed/

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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