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Christmas 2011

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Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:11 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Getting to know you.....

How does everyone celebrate Christmas? Is it as big as Thanksgiving in the US? Are their people of different religions/beliefs that celebrate something else?

Today we buy our tree. We used to get it straight from a farm, but this year we are supporting the Scouts, so we'll buy it from them. We all decorate together.

We try not to buy too much. We buy for each other in my immediate family - just the three of us. My son will get a bit spoilt, but we don't buy expensive gizmos and electronic doodas like some families do. Neices and nephews will get books. Adults get nothing, other than a Kris Kringle present.

I try to avoid too many get togethers and catch ups before christmas. The world is not going to end Dec 26th. Hopefully. I have a work Christmas party to attend next week, and that is about all I have said yes too.

I do not send Christmas cards.

We might actually make Carols by Candlelight this year.

Christmas Day we are having a quiet one. Just us, and maybe a few drop ins later in the day. My husband is cooking Beef Wellington and we'll probably have cheesecake.

Boxing Day (day after Christmas) I spend down at the beach with my extended family. We're having a barbeque, and a few glasses of wine sitting on the balcony looking at the sea (unless it rains).

What about you?

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Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:09 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Peruvians celebrate Christmas by staying up until midnight Christmas eve and shouting, "Happy Birthday, Jesus!" at the stroke of 12. Seriously. :) Then they party deep into the night and sleep in on Christmas day.

We wake at 6 am and open presents under our short, fake, plastic tree, unevenly decorated by the kids. Each kid gets 2 presents: one for the uncle, and one from the parents. The uncle buys at Amazon.com but we like to get stuff from local merchants or ebay. We pick something from the kids' Christmas lists. We've never done Santa Claus.

Then a big meal, and that's that.



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Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth. -- Lucy Parsons (1853-1942, labor activist and anarcho-communist)

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Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:35 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


The Kwicko household will be celebrating with lots of treats for the dogs and cats - we've hung up stockings for each of them already. Either no tree or a small tabletop tree, since the cats will destroy a real one. No religious aspect to it at all, but some good food, good cheer, gift giving and helping out the less fortunate.

And because I'm lousy at keeping things from my wife, I already gave her her present yesterday. She got a shiny new iPad 2. She loves it, and it frees her from the old desktop.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:12 PM

FREMDFIRMA


I might go over and hang with the ex and her husband before or after, see what they're doin - but for the day in question...

I'll be walking the rounds, making sure that everyone can sleep easy knowing their back is covered, and usually I pull the big ticket item boxes out of the dumpsters and shred them before pitching them back in to foil mooks who look for such things and then sweep the area looking to obtain those items - in short, making sure everyone ELSE can have their celebrations and peaceful rest thereafter unmolested by the darker elements of society.

And don't ya know, I find that strangely... gratifying, more so than being around other people, especially people like my family whom I cannot stand, while grinding my teeth and trying to play nice, bleh.

It satisfies me in a fashion I don't have words for, the sure knowledge that my clients are protected cause I am watching over them.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Presents are to be opened Christmas morning. No 'opening-1-gift-on-Christmas-eve' nonsense.



"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Sunday, December 11, 2011 6:23 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


So Rappy will be having a strict authoritarian Christmas.

How shocking.

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Sunday, December 11, 2011 6:36 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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So Rappy will be having a typical, normal Christmas.

How shocking.



Pretty much, yes.



"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Sunday, December 11, 2011 7:06 AM

BYTEMITE


We have too many presents. It's gotten to the point where I refuse to tell the family what I want in a hope that I don't drown in ribbons and paper. Really I ought to tell them to donate to a charity instead. I have too much stuff, and they're kinda misers anyway.

It's a pretty full month, I probably won't go into it because it's mega boring.

I believe in Santa still through selective obliviousness and as an abstract concept and as representing the spirit of the holiday.

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Monday, December 12, 2011 9:43 AM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


On the day itself we'll get up and open presents. My little brother, aged 9 still believes in Santa, I can't wait for him to grow out of it because I find it silly. My older brother and I never did Santa growing up, we always knew. Anyways so R thinks that Santa is the one who gives him his biggest present and we give him the rest. My dad and I will go to my grandma's during the day this year and have a quiet lunch with her, ham etc. In the evening I'll come back to my mom's for dinner and my older brother and his new wife and their daughter will come too. We will have seen his sons a couple of days before with their mom from a city an hour and a half east of us. Christmas is a multiple day affair in my household. It disappoints me that my mother's husband is an atheist and has it in for Christianity currently, which means that R doesn't get any religeous education whatsoever except for what I mannage with him. But that's their choice.

I do lots of Christmas stuff leading up to Christmas, local events, holiday craft fairs run by my local Browncoats group and the Steampunks group, back to back weekends. A couple of lights and singing oriented events. I love Christmas time!

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, December 12, 2011 10:14 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I'm with Byte. Magons, over here Xmas is a spending gluttony. Starts on Black Friday and runs straight through to the desperate last-minute shoppers Xmas Eve. Stuff for Xmas shows up in shops now right after Halloween in some cases, definitely immediately around or after Thanksgiving. We are showered with ads for this or that to buy for Xmas, and people's nerves get very frayed fighting the crowds to buy gifts for people they don't even like, or because someone gave THEM a present and they feel the need to reciprocate.

I have nothing against lining the floor under the Xmas tree with tons of gifts for kids, but Xmas is for kids and the religious, and those who like (or don't like) to gather with family.

The highlight of Xmas in this household is the tree. It's a pain in the ass to buy, haul in, and mostly decorate (and UNdecorate), but we love it. Over decades I collected one or two ornaments a year, so that now the poor thing is overburdened to the point of falling over with them, but most of them bring back memories, and Jim loves having a tree, so although he never helps trim or untrim, I put it up--mostly for him, but I admit when unwrapping each decoration, I kind of enjoy seeing "old friends" again. I just hate the way I feel after hours of trimming and more hours of untrimming.

Jewish people celebrate their own holiday, and it seems like each year that gets recognized and appreciated more. The African-American community sometimes celebrates "Quanza", a made-up holiday that appeared a in the sixties:
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Kwanzaa is a week long celebration held in the United States honoring universal African-American heritage and culture, observed from December 26 to January 1 each year. It features activities such as lighting a candle holder with seven candles[1] and culminates in a feast and gift giving. It was created by Maulana Karenga and was first celebrated in 1966–1967.

Maulana Karenga of the US Organization created Kwanzaa in 1966 as the first specifically African American holiday .[2] Karenga said his goal was to "give Blacks an alternative to the existing holiday and give Blacks an opportunity to celebrate themselves and history, rather than simply imitate the practice of the dominant society."[3] The name Kwanzaa derives from the Swahili phrase matunda ya kwanza, meaning first fruits of the harvest.[4] The choice of Swahili, an East African language, reflects its status as a symbol of Pan-Africanism, especially in the 1960s.

Kwanzaa is a celebration that has its roots in the black nationalist movement of the 1960s, and was established as a means to help African Americans reconnect with their African cultural and historical heritage by uniting in meditation and study of African traditions and Nguzu Saba, the "seven principles of African Heritage" which Karenga said "is a communitarian African philosophy".

During the early years of Kwanzaa, Karenga said that it was meant to be an alternative to Christmas, that Jesus was psychotic, and that Christianity was a white religion that black people should shun.[5] However, as Kwanzaa gained mainstream adherents, Karenga altered his position so that practicing Christians would not be alienated, then stating in the 1997 Kwanzaa: A Celebration of Family, Community, and Culture, "Kwanzaa was not created to give people an alternative to their own religion or religious holiday."[6]

Many Christian African Americans who celebrate Kwanzaa do so in addition to observing Christmas.[7]

Wiki

A lot of people (including my family of origin) follow the tradition of opening one gift for each person on Xmas Eve, Rap notwithstanding. Nowadays, we don't celebrate with gifts, except for Jim's kids and grandkid. Sometimes we'll do something token, like Jim will buy me a box of See's candies, or a couple of years ago told me I could get a second husky for Xmas, but that's about it. I long ago gave up trying to buy HIM gifts, as he reacts badly to most things, saying if he wants something, he'll buy it for himself, and to buy something just to give him a gift is stupid. I find things during the year that he would like but won't pout out the money for, like the camera I got him a few years back. Otherwise, I don't bther.

Oh, here people put up lights on their houes...some just a strand or two, some go totally overboard. Dunno if you have anything similar and too hard to explain, so here:


A fairly low-key decorated house. Lots of people just string one or a couple of strands of lights on the eves of the house or a tree or something, or put out santas or reindeer or somesuch. That's the simplest photo I could find. On the other hand, some go whole hog, and compete with their neighbors, etc.:


The Faucher family has been putting up their Christmas light extravaganza outside their Delaware home for 23 years. And if you think 1,000 lights are a lot, imagine what 1,000,000 would look like. The family’s enormous endeavor lights up the neighborhood and slows traffic for miles around as folks stop by for a look at this holiday marvel.


Dominic Luberto's may be the single biggest Xmas decorated house in America with an astonishing 250,000 lights. Dominic’s idea is to show about 47,000 people who drive by his home each day that Christmas should be celebrated in style. The house is one of the biggest single-family homes in Boston with 11 fireplaces.

Almost everywhere, malls and buildings get decorated/lighted for Xmas...some of the prettiest ones in Rockefeller Center, in New York:


I'm guessing you have some of the same sort of stuff Down Under with respect to this. In fact, a quick check on Google shows you DO, so this is nothing new to you--tho' it says "More and more Australians are embracing the Christmas spirit each year by decorating their homes both inside and out with beautiful lights and Christmas decorations." And
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In Australia and New Zealand, chains of Christmas lights were quickly adopted as an effective way to provide ambient lighting to verandas, where cold beer is often served in the long hot summer evenings. For many years the use of Christmas lights on Australian homes was mainly limited to this simple form. From about 1990 increasingly elaborate Christmas lights have been displayed and driving around between 8 and 10 p.m. to look at the lights has become a popular family entertainment.
I like the idea of it being ambient lighting--of course here, nobody sits outside with a beer!

While they're very beautiful, these days I grimace at big, splashy decorations; my brain goes immediately to what it must COST, and to the incredible waste of energy.

Some places set up skating rinks where families can go together and skate. We have one in the Embarcadero which is set up every year. Given many places don't get cold enough, these are brought in and ice is "created".

Xmas Eve is a biggie...in fact mostly the "party night", like New Year's Eve. That's when most people party, rather than Xmas Day itself. Xmas itself is for family, mad gift unwrapping and stuffing oneself. And watching ball games (remember Thanksgiving? Same thing, only on Xmas I think it's mostly college football, rather than pro. Gift unwrapping is usually the first order of business (since the kids would DIE if it weren't).

Some people go from house to house and sing carols, a really old tradition, on Xmas Eve. Many people go to church on Xmas morning for mass or somesuch religious celebration.

That's all I can think of. In our house, I usually cook something special, like another Turkey; other than Jim visiting his daugher, who lives nearby, or his son comes down from the mountains to be with family, for us it's just another day, as are all holidays. We're old enough, have had enough Xmases, and Jim's not religious and I'm buddhist, so it has no religious significance for us.

That's all I can think of offhand.



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Monday, December 12, 2011 6:55 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I take the little ones carolling each year at the neighbors' houses, they're getting older now so we're trying more complicated songs, we can move beyond Rudolph and Jingle Bells, though those are still their favorites and steps to more pretty fair are being taken slowly, little boys and all. Christmas Eve is when we go to my mother's husband's family. I sort of enjoy this because his parents and I get along really well and a couple of his relatives are cool. But I don't like having to put up with their big dog, it is very stressful for me so I can only do it for a few hours before I'm worn out emotionally. We used to do things with Rachie's family for Christmas Eve night but since Gammy died they don't come back to town for Christmas so no Rachie for me. :(

I went to the zoo lights this evening, my mom and R and I. The zoo decorates with lots of lights and we saw the lions, caracals, tiger and jaguar just before it got dark. I saw them all myself which is a big thing since animals like to be far away from the viewing areas but they were cooperative for me tonight.

My singers that I teach will have their Christmas concert this weekend.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, December 12, 2011 8:37 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Aw lovely. I adore Christmas lights. I used to love the decorations in London when I lived there, where they really were seen to their best advantage in the mid winter solstice.

Here you have to be up pretty late to appreaciate them, as it's Summer solstice here. But decorating houses has become much more popular in recent years. I refer to it as Griswalding.

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Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:27 AM

BYTEMITE


A reference to one of the best holiday movies of all time? Clearly its themes are universal.

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