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THERE...ARE....FOUR....LIGHTS!

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Friday, May 25, 2012 11:31 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


What I hear when I read/hear the liberal "news".


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Friday, May 25, 2012 11:35 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg




"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you... YOU are locked in here with ME."

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Friday, May 25, 2012 12:33 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Stop stealing my lines, Wulf. They'll think you're my sock puppet.



" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein


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Friday, May 25, 2012 12:45 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

THERE...ARE....FOUR....LIGHTS!




And you'll say that as long as FauxNews tells you to say that, NO MATTER HOW MANY LIGHTS THERE REALLY ARE.

FauxNews: We Distort. You Comply.™






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Friday, May 25, 2012 1:10 PM

WHOZIT


I'm whozit and I approve this message.....FOUR LIGHTS!

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Friday, May 25, 2012 1:14 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

THERE...ARE....FOUR....LIGHTS!




And you'll say that as long as FauxNews tells you to say that, NO MATTER HOW MANY LIGHTS THERE REALLY ARE.

FauxNews: We Distort. You Comply.





FOX is the only one who'd accurately report the news. And that annoys Kwickie, greatly.



" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein


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Friday, May 25, 2012 4:21 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
FOUR LIGHTS!



Somehow it still seems dim in here...
You mind hittin' the switch? I'm trying ta catch a little shut-eye

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Friday, May 25, 2012 4:30 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

THERE...ARE....FOUR....LIGHTS!




And you'll say that as long as FauxNews tells you to say that, NO MATTER HOW MANY LIGHTS THERE REALLY ARE.

FauxNews: We Distort. You Comply.





FOX is the only one who'd accurately report the news. And that annoys Kwickie, greatly.






Except that studies show that Fox viewers know less about current events than people who watch no news at all. People who watch The Daily Show are better-informed and can answer more news questions correctly than Fox viewers, and that annoys Rappy, greatly.

The truth always does.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Friday, May 25, 2012 4:38 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


















"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Friday, May 25, 2012 7:34 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Stop stealing my lines, Wulf. They'll think you're my sock puppet.





Nah - we realize you're two different people. We also realize you only have one working brain between the two of you!





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Friday, May 25, 2012 8:44 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:



"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you... YOU are locked in here with ME."



But do you know which sci fi classic novel this was almost directly lifted from?

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Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:59 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Quote:

Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:



"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you... YOU are locked in here with ME."



But do you know which sci fi classic novel this was almost directly lifted from?




Is there a YouTube clip of it? Because Wulfie doesn't read; he gets his info only via vidclip.






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Saturday, May 26, 2012 3:04 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


You are doubleplusgood, Mr K :)

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Saturday, May 26, 2012 4:41 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Stop stealing my lines, Wulf. They'll think you're my sock puppet.





Nah - we realize you're two different people.




It's funny, because you 'realized' that, yet I keep gettin' accused of making up all these sock puppets.


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Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:31 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Stop stealing my lines, Wulf. They'll think you're my sock puppet.





Nah - we realize you're two different people.




It's funny, because you 'realized' that, yet I keep gettin' accused of making up all these sock puppets.





So can you show me any examples of me claiming that Wulfie was your sockpuppet?

If not, are you prepared to retract your baseless claims?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Saturday, May 26, 2012 8:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!






So can you show me any examples of me claiming that Wulfie was your sockpuppet?

If not, are you prepared to retract your baseless claims?



Don't have to, as I never claimed YOU were the one to make the sockpuppet charge. Frem did.

*yawn*

Damn son, you've got the reading comprehension skills of a stoned chimpanzee. ( And not a very bright one at that )





" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein


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Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:36 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Quote:


So can you show me any examples of me claiming that Wulfie was your sockpuppet?

If not, are you prepared to retract your baseless claims?



Don't have to, as I never claimed YOU were the one to make the sockpuppet charge. Frem did.

*yawn*

Damn son, you've got the reading comprehension skills of a stoned chimpanzee. ( And not a very bright one at that )





Ah, I see - you're in the habit of quoting me when responding to Frem.

Maybe you should stay out of that stoned chimp's stash. You don't have the brains cells to spare.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Sunday, May 27, 2012 2:51 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ah, I see - you're in the habit of quoting me when responding to Frem.

Maybe you should stay out of that stoned chimp's stash. You don't have the brains cells to spare.




I was responding to YOU, dim bulb.

I was referencing Frem's remark ( as well as others ), not RESPONDING to Frem.



" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein


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Sunday, May 27, 2012 2:22 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Just FYI for the somnambulants here...

1. Im not Auraps sock puppet... sorry.

2. If Im not always around to argue with you... well then Im probably out making a positive impact in the world, working, or taking care of my pregnant (beautiful) wife. Its ok if you cannot understand, or grasp, that.


"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you... YOU are locked in here with ME."

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Monday, May 28, 2012 10:22 AM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


That's from 1984 right?

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Monday, May 28, 2012 10:32 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

If Im not always around to argue with you... well then Im probably out making a positive impact in the world


Oh, gawd, the poor little deluded baby, he sure has a grandiose view of himself, doesn't he?!


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Monday, May 28, 2012 11:11 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
That's from 1984 right?




Never mind.

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Monday, May 28, 2012 11:18 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


Yeah, sorry schmuck, but sitting around watching clips from Mel Gibson movies on YouTube all day doesn't qualify as making a positive impact in the world. Good try though.

Socialist and unashamed.


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Monday, May 28, 2012 2:34 PM

STORYMARK


Poor, deluded Wulfie.

He tries, he really does. But he doesn't even understand his own refrences enough to get that he undermines himself.

In this case, in the story which he refrences - there really were four lights - it was the claim otherwise that was propoganda.



So, yes, Wulfie - you're right. The librul media (I have to chuckle at the simplicity of those who buy that) says there are four lights - because there really are four lights.

You're adorable. Does it hurt, being that stupid?

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, May 28, 2012 3:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



It's not 'simplistic ' for anyone to acknowledge that the media are indeed Left leaning. I find it funny that those who deny such feel the need to insultingly claim that anyone who says the Media are liberal to be 'simple'.

There ARE four lights. The media is trying to tell us that there are only 3 lights. And as strong and proud as Jean-Luc Picard is, even he, at the end, admits that he was on the verge of agreeing with his captors, and saying there are only 3 lights.

Funny how you don't get that, Storybook. Guess the message was missed on you. Pity.



" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein


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Monday, May 28, 2012 4:26 PM

WISHIMAY


Y'all are just hi-larious...

Squabbling over "lefts" and "rights" like kids on a playground arguing over who gets the ball.

I hope this planet does get invaded by aliens, or blown to bits by an asteroid so that in the five seconds before your demise you all can realize just how completely wastefully you've spent your time. Rediculous babbling nonsense.

Since some of you only relate to movie quotes, here's one "The only winning move is NOT TO PLAY!" I'll still do whatever the hell I want no matter which side has the illusion of power today, tomorrow, or forever. Y'all and Obama can sit around measureing Dumbsticks for eternity...

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Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:16 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

It's not 'simplistic ' for anyone to acknowledge that the media are indeed Left leaning. I find it funny that those who deny such feel the need to insultingly claim that anyone who says the Media are liberal to be 'simple'.

There ARE four lights. The media is trying to tell us that there are only 3 lights. And as strong and proud as Jean-Luc Picard is, even he, at the end, admits that he was on the verge of agreeing with his captors, and saying there are only 3 lights.





Funny that you don't seem to get that your beloved FauxNews *IS* part of "the media". In fack, they and Murdoch are among the biggest parts of the media.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:20 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Excellent, Riona (and Magons, for catching it first). It WOULD be Wulf who would only know about the Star Trek version. As with so many morality tales and great movies, and as just about every long-running TV series did, Trek stole the concept from 1984 and ran with it:



Everything old is new again (and Wulf only finds out about it through his love of "heroes"). I kinda like that they do that, as it always brings things back to the conscionsness of the new generations things which previous generations got. I kinda resent the simplistic way they do it sometimes, or how they bend it, but I never minded immediately recognizing where a plot came from.

Of course, the irony IS that the right's favorite "news media" is actually a propaganda tool of Murdoch and the right itself, as has been shown over and over and over. Other media certainly does the same thing, but not to the blatant degree FauxNews does, and THEY usually get called on it and someone gets fired. Righties only watch FauxNews for the most part, so they buy into the "four lights" far more than anyone else, so to use it as an example against the left is hilarious.

Also, of course, the concept has nothing to do with media, but with torture. So is he trying to say the "left-wing media" is TORTURING people into believing there are four lights, or four fingers? Kind of a weird comparison; I think if he'd really tried, and had anything but his vast store of fiction to pick from, he could have done better.

Wonder what Raptor's "never mind" means? Did he realize where the plot actually came from, or that Wulf isn't making a point about indoctrination, but about torture?

All in all, just a thread for our righties to jump on and agree with each other and slap each other on the back, which is why I ignored it, figuring "let them have their fun", until Riona brought up the original. Well done, Riona!


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Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:48 AM

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Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:25 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Funny that you don't seem to get that your beloved FauxNews *IS* part of "the media". In fack, they and Murdoch are among the biggest parts of the media.



Where can one see this ' FAUX ' news of which you speak ? Is it sorta like The Onion? I've heard of FOX, which matches the description of what Robert Murdoch owns. Unless your typing skills truly are so poor, where as you meant to type FOX instead of FAUX, or 'in fact' instead of 'in fack '?

Yes, FOX news is a small part of the media. And one which hasn't been around for very long, unlike CBS,NBC, ABC, The NYTimes, LA Times, or even CNN.

And Cavetroll, funny! As CNN was founded in Atlanta, which is also the home office of Coca-Cola, it figures they'd prop up Pepsi.

And Niki, I pity you if you think that the rest of the MSM is NOT propaganda for the Left.



" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein


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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:35 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Funny that you don't seem to get that your beloved FauxNews *IS* part of "the media". In fack, they and Murdoch are among the biggest parts of the media.



Where can one see this ' FAUX ' news of which you speak ? Is it sorta like The Onion? I've heard of FOX, which matches the description of what Robert Murdoch owns. Unless your typing skills truly are so poor, where as you meant to type FOX instead of FAUX, or 'in fact' instead of 'in fack '?




Good catch on the typo. That's one in a row for you.

But who is Robert Murdoch? Is he Rupert's smarter brother? Or are your typing skills so poor that you meant to type RUPERT instead of "Robert"?

When I refer to FauxNews, I am of course talking about your beloved "FOX". And yes, it's sorta like The Onion, in that they use actual words to describe things. The Onion tends to be closer to the truth in most cases, though. Research shows that those who watch Fox are less informed about current events than those who watch no news at all, and a good deal less informed than those who get their news from The Daily Show.

But since they're entirely slanted to the right, of course you find them to be the only reliable news source. Well, until you have to backpedal and claim that they aren't "news" at all, but "entertainment".

Quote:


Yes, FOX news is a small part of the media. And one which hasn't been around for very long, unlike CBS,NBC, ABC, The NYTimes, LA Times, or even CNN.



"A small part of the media," and "one which hasn't been around for very long." Great. So you're saying you give a pass to MSNBC and Huffington Post, right? After all, compared to Fox, they're even smaller, and also haven't been around very long.

Quote:


And Cavetroll, funny! As CNN was founded in Atlanta, which is also the home office of Coca-Cola, it figures they'd prop up Pepsi.

And Niki, I pity you if you think that the rest of the MSM is NOT propaganda for the Left.




And Rappy, I pity you if you think Fox ISN'T propaganda for the right.





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:44 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

It's not 'simplistic ' for anyone to acknowledge that the media are indeed Left leaning. I find it funny that those who deny such feel the need to insultingly claim that anyone who says the Media are liberal to be 'simple'.

There ARE four lights. The media is trying to tell us that there are only 3 lights. And as strong and proud as Jean-Luc Picard is, even he, at the end, admits that he was on the verge of agreeing with his captors, and saying there are only 3 lights.





Ummmm... Wasn't it FIVE lights they were trying to get him to admit to, not THREE?

Are you trying to mislead us and tell us something that's not true, or are your typing skills so poor that you typed "3" when you meant to type "5"?






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:57 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


5 lights, 3 lights. Rupert, Robert... doesn't matter.

I'm still right.



" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein


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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:04 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
5 lights, 3 lights. Rupert, Robert... doesn't matter.

I'm still right.





Huh. From the looks of things, you're completely wrong.

And now you're trying to claim that you're "still right".

So how many lights does that make it? Are you saying that 2+2=THREE? Or are you now saying that the number of lights doesn't matter, and that it's whatever you say it is, and that's all that matters?


It's okay for you to admit that you were wrong.





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:23 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


No, I'm completely right.

You're trying to spin things by confusing minor, trivial side issues with the greater point being made.

As is your M.O.





" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein


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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:44 AM

BYTEMITE


I've never actually watched Star Trek, it's not something that interests me. But, I do live and breathe tvtropes, so I've heard this one before.

My understanding is that Captain Picard was being held captive by some nasties, who were torturing him unto the breaking point to try to get his mind pliable. Their test was that they would flash four lights, and force him to believe there were five.

Captain Picard manages to resist to an extent, even insists there are only four lights. But later on, he admits, in a quiet despair, that at one point, his mind tricked him into seeing five despite his protestations.

Kind of depressing.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:59 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, I'm completely right.

You're trying to spin things by confusing minor, trivial side issues with the greater point being made.

As is your M.O.




I thought this thread was based on the "how many lights are there" meme. You and Wulfie say there are four, not three, not five, but FOUR. And when I point out that you got the details wrong, you say I'm quibbling.

So you're just coming right out and admitting that it really doesn't matter if someone says there are three, four, five, nine, a eleventy-billion lights, none of that matters?

Is that what you're saying?

Or you insinuating that when FauxNews gets the facts and details wrong, they're being "truthy"? Like how when you get things spectacularly wrong, you're not "lying", but if anyone else gets the tiniest thing off by a bit, they're blatantly lying?

Is that your message in this?

You keep insisting that you're completely right, but you've been shown to be completely wrong twice in two posts. So if we're to believe you're "completely" anything, we have to believe that you're completely full of crap.



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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:05 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Jean Luc Picard accurately states that there are 4 lights.

The tormentors tried to make him think there were 5 lights.

Much as the MSM tries to tell the public ( minus the painful use of torture ) that what we SEE isn't what we really see.

That's pretty much the message here. Sorry it doesn't register w/ your feeble mind, Kwickie.

Now, back to your crayons and coloring book.



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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:33 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Now, back to your crayons and coloring book.







That's particularly hilarious, coming from someone who can't reliably count to five!



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:39 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Now, back to your crayons and coloring book.






That's particularly hilarious, coming from someone who can't reliably count to five!




Where's your evidence for that ?



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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:55 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


This thread.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:59 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
This thread.



How so ?



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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:33 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


"I've never actually watched Star Trek, it's not something that interests me. But, I do live and breathe tvtropes, so I've heard this one before.

My understanding is that Captain Picard was being held captive by some nasties, who were torturing him unto the breaking point to try to get his mind pliable. Their test was that they would flash four lights, and force him to believe there were five.

Captain Picard manages to resist to an extent, even insists there are only four lights. But later on, he admits, in a quiet despair, that at one point, his mind tricked him into seeing five despite his protestations.

Kind of depressing."


Exactly.

Yet, DESPITE the constant attempts at brainwashing, DESPITE the constant haranguing and bitching and whining from the liberals/progressives/socialists/communists...

DESPITE the lies, DESPITE the propaganda.............

THERE. ARE. FOUR. LIGHTS!

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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:02 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:
DESPITE the lies, DESPITE the propaganda.............

THERE. ARE. FOUR. LIGHTS!



Quote:

Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:
What I hear when I read/hear the liberal "news".




Yup, dispite all the misinformation from the Right the so called liberal news is still telling the facts.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Yup, dispite all the misinformation from the Right the so called liberal news is still telling the facts.



Like Dan Rather's 'fake but accurate' documents ?

Or how one networked called the 2000 elections, for Gore, before the polls in western FL had closed ?

There's bias and spin enough for all, but when the MSM is so vastly outweighed by the Left, the spin they produce gets repeated far more often, and repeated , as 'fact', than anything coming out of FOX.



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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:58 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Actually the analogy is a particularly poor one. Watching the Fox news may be excruciating, but it is nothing being tortured to the point of complete psychological breakdown, where reality becomes distorted. It is, like its predecessor 1984, damning torture and tyranny, but this particular scene is not about the affect of misinformation.

1984 contains many such examples that you might have used. The fact that there is an electronic media system which enables facts to be rewritten after events to show the tyrannical government in a positive light, the manipulation of language to create a universal mind set of the people of Ingsoc, were brilliant and pertinent theories that Orwell put into his narrative and are particularly applicable today. Newspeak is todays soundbites.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:04 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Right on, Magons. But you see, Wulf just looks for something he can use--and since his mentality is superficial, he's only seen or read the superficial. Especially fantasy, science fiction, and anything with a "hero" in it. I'm not sure he's ever even HEARD of 1984, much less is familiar with all the brilliance of it. You will only get the simple and the superficial from both he and Raptor; one should never expect more.


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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:08 PM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Right on, Magons. But you see, Wulf just looks for something he can use--and since his mentality is superficial, he's only seen or read the superficial. Especially fantasy, science fiction, and anything with a "hero" in it. I'm not sure he's ever even HEARD of 1984, much less is familiar with all the brilliance of it. You will only get the simple and the superficial from both he and Raptor; one should never expect more.

]

This is especially obvious when he brings out things like the speech from Braveheart. You know, the movie where in the end, Mel Gibson is brutally tortured and killed? Lot of good his words did him there, eh? I bet he worked all day on that speech.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:20 PM

BYTEMITE


Whoa now. I'll grant you the historical accuracy of the movie was dubious, but let's not be mocking the Scottish Struggle for Independence in front of someone from Clan Chattan.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:59 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Byte, I've never equated Braveheart with anything actually historical, but with the ego of Mel Gibson and Hollywoodized, fictional history. So have no fears on my account. ;o)


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