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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Then let's be clear: the complaint isn't necessarily gas prices, it's inflation and cost of living.

Both of which can have economic easement, via minimum wage standards or interest rate manipulation by the Fed. But there are no solutions to this without completely dismantling the economy - that's just how this all works.

(I actually see positives in scrapping this system and starting over, but I have no real preference for a course of action)

As for tax breaks for women that far outbalance that they're paid .73 less on the dollar - cites please.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Are you insinuating that gas prices should be tied to the minimum wage (price controls), or that wages should be tied to gas prices (wage controls), or just that gas prices should reflect what YOU are making at any current time?


In 1980, gas was about a buck a gallon. Minimum wage was $3.10. I was making $9 an hour.

Seems wages haven't kept pace with gas price increases. Since we've already established that there's no gas shortage in the U.S., it sounds like somebody's gouging us to make more profits.

Maybe you should complain to the oil companies. Or do what I did, and get a cheap, reliable econo-car that gets more than 30mpg. My "complaint" to the oil industry is to use less of their product. When demand falls, prices generally follow. It's an economic principle or something. ;)

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Believe it or not, I'm not insinuating anything... I'm especially not insinuating that minimum wage should be raised. I might be making minimum wage now, but I know the second that happens everything else just raises in price. When I WAS making good money I hated minimum wage hikes. All that meant for me was that I was making that much less over minimum wage, and that prices at all the stores would go up.

I have a Camry. Sure, it's a mid 90's Camry with electrical issues so I've had to up the idol on it to get it to not die at stop lights. It gets about 17mpg, which is much less than it should be getting, but I'm not exactly in the market to buy a new car at the moment, so it sure beats my 8mpg LTD 4 years ago.

At the same time, I live 4 blocks from work. I haven't walked it during the winter, but I rarely drive my car during the good months. Even with the low MPG for the Camry, I would estimate my yearly driving to be about 600-1,000 Miles. If I lived by family/friends, it would be a lot less, but I had to move out of state over the border to save 3-4k a year on property taxes. The extra 300 bucks a year I spend on visiting them is a drop in the bucket.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I have a Camry. Sure, it's a mid 90's Camry with electrical issues so I've had to up the idol on it to get it to not die at stop lights. It gets about 17mpg, which is much less than it should be getting, but I'm not exactly in the market to buy a new car at the moment, so it sure beats my 8mpg LTD 4 years ago.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
You should look into resetting the ECU. I'd bet it's not so much an electrical issue as a sensor issue - O2 sensors are one of the most common failures on OBD-1 and "OBD-0" cars. Also, look into cleaning out the throttlebody, since it's almost certainly gunked up.

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I'll look into that. I have to do it myself since I can't afford to even tell the guy I knew to try to fix it.

I don't mind learning new things and fixing them.

I'm also not at all above asking non friendlys for advice about things I don't know about. Anyone who isn't actively an enemy is a potential friend....

Here's the trouble, as far as I know......

BEFORE I MANUALLY "UPPED" THE IDOL......

The car would die at stop signs and stop lights. This seemed to happen regardless of temp or humidity for the most part, but happened more often than not in seriously cold weather (although it only happened one winter before I "UPPED the idol")

Before I made the change, my car would constantly die at a stoplight right after I got off the expressway going anywhere near 80mph for a long time. Throwing the car in neutral like an old car wouldn't save it. I learned to ride both the gas and brake pedals with 2 feet to counteract this when it happened. The alternative was being stuck on the road for about 20 seconds before I could start the car back up while people were honking at me.

If I pull into a parking lot and turn my car off, it has always acted right if I start it up one minute later.

After "upping' my idol, the ONLY time I experience this is when I've been on the Expressway for a long time going fast. If I keep it at 60MPH I'm cool. Anything over that, I risk stalling at the first stop off the freeway.

Before I upped my idol, it would happen any time.

Sure, I only get about 17-18MPG now, but it beats stalling at any light I stop at.

I haven't stalled in over a year now, but it's pretty nerve wracking to put two feet on the pedals to keep the car idling high enough that it doesn't die at a stop.

If you got an answer, great for you......

Nobody else has figured it out. Hell..... I've never been able to make it do what I'm talking about while anyone who could fix problems was actually in the car....

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I know because I listen to the radio most of the day, and the top of each hour, they highlight the big stories.

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So by your own admission, you're basing what you "know" off of what you hear on the radio. On that basis, I submit that a big-legged woman ain't got no soul.

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