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Cologne New Years Eve Attacks - What We Know

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Saturday, January 9, 2016 3:01 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


I thought I'd start another thread on the Cologne attacks, clean of unfounded reactionary rumour-monging and hysteria ("1000 Asylum-seekers!").

This is a good article that summarises the facts of that night:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rossalynwarren/what-really-happened-in-cologne
?utm_term=.beqjPe59Rx#.oj3XB3aOx9

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Saturday, January 9, 2016 3:38 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


We know KPO has a boner for radical muslims

We know KPO is so truly brainwashed by the red vs blue on tv, we know KPO is stupified by the right vs left stage show that KPO can not form an individual thought or think individually or ever vote for a libertarian, constitutionist party or vote independently

We know KPO hates conservatives and hates the right so much he would support an islamic before supporting a European or Conservatiove American citizen

We know fools like WISHIMAY and KPO have called it wrong on previous terrorist incidents, for example San Bernardino, the Middle East and others....I mean as someone who liked left speakers you really have to hang your head in shame when your guys start sounding more like a whiny Michael Moore and rigghtwing guys like AURAPTOR start call it right....I don't remember the left ever being this stoopid

We know for some strange reason KPO has been defending Muslim jihadists, molestors and rioters??

We know islamic riots, stealing, muslim molesting, shooting fireworks at people it just isn't Cologne, it heppened in Sweden, Austria, France, Denmark, Finland and many other cities and countries across Europe

We know KPO is so keen to bend over and take it up the ass from islamists

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

more news
Multiple New Year’s Eve Sex Attacks In Sweden, Police Compare It To Cologne
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/08/multiple-new-years-eve-sex-
attacks-in-sweden-police-compare-it-to-cologne
/

New Year’s Eve sex assaults also reported in Finland, Sweden and Austria
http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/new-years-eve-sex-assaults-also-re
ported-in-finland-sweden-and-austria/news-story/ce603ac27e5ebb4479874096fe299b97


New Year sexual assaults in Frankfurt, police say
http://www.thelocal.de/20160106/cologne-police-cant-work-this-way-mini
ster


Muslim sex attacks rock 6 countries'The idea of multicultural Europe has failed'
http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/muslim-sex-attacks-rock-6-countries/



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Sunday, January 10, 2016 10:05 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.





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Monday, January 11, 2016 8:07 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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We know KPO has a boner for radical muslims

I think it's clear to everyone, JAYNEZTOWN, that the person with the boner for radical muslims is YOU.

Just to be clear, I am not denying that these attacks happened, or condoning or defending jihadists (which these guys surely weren't) or any kinds of harassment or attacks on women. I'm just trying to promote a discussion that is fact-based, and not reactionary and hysterical.

Signy raises the point in the other thread that most of the migrants/refugees making it into Europe are young and male. Strip away the right wing language of them 'looking aggressive' and scare stories of them snatching babies and there is an important point here. Often young migrant communities are composed mostly of young, low-skilled men. There is often the danger of these men forming or falling into gangs, and harassing local women. Add to that a culture and religion that often shows little respect for women, and a view of Western women as 'loose' and 'immodest', and you have a possible recipe for what happened in Cologne.

Some other extracts from the article I would like to highlight:

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Alexander, another local, is familiar with the gangs that operate in the area. On New Year’s Eve, he arrived at the station just before midnight and saw girls crying and consoling each other. He was there, like he is most weeks, to collect refugees who arrive at the central station in the early hours and transport them on to local shelters.

“The people that night were known by the police already because they see them every night here, like I do,” Alexander said. “The gangs even sometimes pickpocket from refugees that arrive – we can sometimes hear when they discuss when they’re going to rob refugees who have arrived and are sleeping.”

...

Alexander refuses to believe newly arrived refugees were involved. “All of the Syrians I’ve met and work with that have arrived here wouldn’t do anything like they did that night,” he said. “They’re often always too tired, and hungry. It would be too much to handle.”


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Irmgard, who works at a local charity that offers emergency counselling for sexual assault and rape victims, told BuzzFeed News that over the last year, the charity saw no rise in sexual assault or rape cases despite the number of refugees arriving in the country.


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Monday, January 11, 2016 10:04 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Whatever the problem is, it's not just Cologne. It happened in Denmark, Sweden, Finland, and a host of other places.

And it's not just New Year's Eve, as the same thing happened during a summer concert in Sweden. And just like Germany's main media (which did not cover the mass criminality for four days) the Swedish media did a cover-up as well. The only difference is that the Swedish cover-up managed to survive for five months, not four days.

Exposing Major PC Cover-up in Sweden – Leading Daily Dagens Nyheter Refused to Write About Cologne-like Sex Crimes in Central Stockholm

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STOCKHOLM The Cologne sex assault on New Year’s Eve, where groups of Arab and North African men groped more than a hundred German women, has shocked Europe this last week. But a very similar incident, with a large number of perpetrators and victims, took place in the Swedish capital last summer. That incident however was silenced by large Swedish newspapers and media companies, despite repeated attempts from [some] police officers to contact journalists. This is how leading Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter tried to cover up a politically inconvenient sex assault story.

Nyheter Idag is now able to disclose in detail how major Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter deliberately covered up stories about widespread sexual abuse in central Stockholm in connection with a concert in the Kungsträdgården public square this August. “The mere suspicion that the abuse has been considered as difficult to describe involves a betrayal of the victims”,the newspaper writes about the event, almost six months later.

On Saturday August 15th, the nationally acclaimed and outspoken feminist artist Zara Larsson headlined the youth festival ‘We Are Sthlm” with a crowded concert in Kungsträdgården in central Stockholm. Thousands of young people were in attendance to take part in the event during the last summer nights of the year.

But for an unknown number of young girls the festival soon became a nightmare. Hordes of young men pressed against young girls, fondled and tried to cop a feel over and under skirts, pants and shirts. There were severe sexual assaults happening right in front of the stage, where artists such as Larsson and rapper OIAM performed.

During a single night police and security guards had to intervene against around 90 younger males, but even adult men took part in the abuse, says an eye witness to Nyheter Idag. The eye witness has professional experience from working at the Stockholm Police Department as a psychologist.

The police officer [psychologist] tried to contact Dagens Nyheter [daily paper] several times: “They never called again”

The psychologist who knew of what had happened in Kungsträdgården contacted journalist Hanne Kjöller at Dagens Nyheter, by, among other things, e-mail on August 17. The psychologist says he specifically turned to Kjöller because he knew that she had previously written about controversial topics.

“She was very interested and listened until I told her that all the boys and men that were apprehended were young asylants (unaccompanied is the terminology used by Swedish authorities) from Afghanistan and Syria. I sensed that she changed the tone (of her voice). But she also said that she would contact the police”, he tells Nyheter Idag.

...

The officer explains that he worked for several evenings during this week in Kungsträdgården square. He tells of how he and his colleagues had to apprehend a large number of young men who sexually assaulted girls, in large part unaccompanied refugees from Afghanistan. The police officer, who has worked as a police officer for over 20 years, emphatically states several times that the events in Kungsträdgården were systematic and extensive in number.

...

Time passes and a new year begins – it’s now 2016 and the brutal and massive sexual assaults against young girls that August evening in Kungsträdgården is completely unknown to the public.

But then something happens, a rumor that goes viral on blogs in Germany spreads to the so-called “alternative media” in Sweden. After a day, traditional media in both Germany and other European countries start to report on the same issue.

It is, of course, the Sex Attacks in Cologne on New Year’s Eve. It came to grow into a major scandal after police initially did not report on the large number of sexual abuses and rapes that occurred on the New Year’s Eve. A police chief was fired and it has been speculated why there was so much silence initially, despite all the sexual assaults. But the scandal was a fact and just over a week into the year, there is no way avoiding the subject – are authorities and the media deliberately trying to cover up sexual abuse carried out by men with migrant backgrounds?



Yes, of course. It's obvious that they are.

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He says that Kjöller claims she never got hold of the police, and that is why no article was ever published in Dagens Nyheter about the incident in Kungsträdgården. But the psychologist also says that he’s been given a different explanation. That Kjöller over the phone told him that “the editor for the Stockholm section of Dagens Nyheter had taken charge of the case herself, and (the editor) considered the story to be “SD fabrications” (SD, or Sweden Democrats, are a populist anti-migration party that for a long time has been at odds with Swedish mainstream media).

“She (Kjöller) said that her editor had used the term ‘SD fabrications’ or ‘SD falsifications’, something like that. I remember that detail specifically”, says the psychologist. The psychologist takes out his mobile phone, his fingers dances over the touch screen. He is upset because of the way he thinks Dagens Nyheter has handled the issue. In a text message, sent from Hanne Kjöller, she is basically apologizing for the critically important story not having been published.

“But a warm thanks for your tip. I am sorry that we didn’t use it in a better way. Hanne”, the text message reads.

....

January, Saturday 9th 2016 Dagens Nyheter runs an article with the headline “Women’s right to party safely cannot be sacrificed”. The article is written by freelance writer Lasse Wierup, Hanne Kjöller’s colleague at Dagens Nyheter. In the article the incident in Kungsträdgården is now mentioned for the very first time.


Many months later ...

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“One of the police officers who took part in the command, and had to give a lot of time in support of the victimized girls, says that the whole incident was considered very sensitive. The young lads that were sent away were judged to be mostly unaccompanied (asylum seekers or refugees)”, writes Wierup.
More at ...
http://nyheteridag.se/exposing-major-pc-cover-up-in-sweden-leading-dai
ly-dagens-nyheter-refused-to-write-about-cologne-like-sex-crimes-in-central-stockholm
/


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Monday, January 11, 2016 10:28 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It's a well-known but hidden fact that there are "no go" zones in France, where the police have given up trying to manage the large blocks of run-down apartments which make up much of the immigrant housing. I believe the same has been said about Britain (i.e. "no go" zones).

Those zones, in France, are a minefield for girls to grow up in: Without the formal protections of their families (fathers, uncles) or the police, anal and oral rape are widespread since young Muslim men don't consider oral and anal sex to be "sex".

The fact that there are large tracts of impoverished, marginalized, un-integrated populations within Germany, France, England (?), Sweden, Switzerland, AND THE USA, etc demonstrates the entire problem with welcoming mass migrations across borders.

IF ALL YOU PLAN TO DO WITH THESE PEOPLE IS EITHER LET THEM WORK LIKE INDENTURED SERVANTS IN YOUR FACTORIES, FIELDS, AND BACK ROOMS ... or, even worse ... provide them the "charity" that you would show a pigeon ...

Then by all means, let them in.

But IF YOU INTEND TO INTEGRATE THEM INTO YOUR CULTURE AND YOUR ECONOMY, THEN YOU NEED TO DO MORE THAN JUST LET THEM ROOST IN THE LESS-DESIRABLE PARTS OF YOUR CITIES, OR PROVIDE THEM "HANDOUTS".

STOP BOMBING THEIR NATIONS AND DESTABILIZING THEIR GOVERNMENTS SO THAT THEIR HOMES ARE NOT LIVING HELLS WHICH MUST BE FLED.

That is the whole problem with "liberals" - they never try to understand what the real CAUSE of a problem is, instead, they want to "help".

Fist, they "help" by bombing, invading, and destabilizing governments that they don't like (or have been convinced by their governments not to like- such as Libya, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Ukraine, and Yugoslavia). That will "create democracy"

Then they "help" by providing "charity".

So here we have people like KPO, with the Bible of Democracy in one hand and a bomb in the other, spreading his gospel wherever he goes, destroying foreign nations and causing mass migrations. And now he wants to destroy the EU too.

And who benefits from this clusterfuck, eh?

Every time I see stories like this, a poetical phrase springs to mind:

PITY WOULD BE NO MORE,
IF WE DID NOT MAKE MEN POOR.

If we stopped screwing people over, maybe we wouldn't have to feel so "sorry" for them.





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