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Where has SIG and 1kiki's outrage about anyone allying with Saudia Araba gone ?

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Friday, October 6, 2017 2:35 PM

THGRRI


MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin hosted U.S. ally King Salman of Saudi Arabia for talks at the Kremlin this week, cementing a relationship that is pivotal for world oil prices and possibly signaling a shift in Middle East politics.

Salman, the first sitting Saudi monarch ever to visit Russia, led a delegation to Moscow bringing with him investment deals worth several billion dollars, providing much-needed investment for a Russian economy battered by low oil prices and Western sanctions.

Saudi Arabia said it signed a memorandum of understanding on the purchase from Russia of S-400 air defense systems. That marked a shift for the kingdom, which buys most of its military supplies from the United States and Britain.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/saudi-king-s-visit-russia-marks-shi
ft-relations-syria-oil-n808271



Explain it to us comrades. Explain why this is OK with you.


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Friday, October 6, 2017 3:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Because they will probably twist the Saudi monarch's arm, over time, to desist from using their oil-funded terrorist/ al Qaeda/ ISIS proxies to take over the ME. Just look at how fast Erdogan pulled HIS horns in, once the USA attempted a coup against him and he realized that he had no options left but to suck up to Russia. Now, all of the sudden, Erdogan is no longer supplying ISIS in Syria with oil-laundering services, weapons, fighters, money, and medical aid.

You still don't "get" the fact that the USA is tacitly and actively supporting terrorism in the ME, fighting it with one hand and supplying it with two, don't you?

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Friday, October 6, 2017 3:26 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Because they will probably twist the Saudi monarch's arm, over time, to desist from using their oil-funded terrorist/ al Qaeda/ ISIS proxies to take over the ME. Just look at how fast Erdogan pulled HIS horns in, once the USA attempted a coup against him and he realized that he had no options left but to suck up to Russia. Now, all of the sudden, Erdogan is no longer supplying ISIS in Syria with oil-laundering services, weapons, fighters, money, and medical aid.

You still don't "get" the fact that the USA is tacitly and actively supporting terrorism in the ME, fighting it with one hand and supplying it with two, don't you?










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Friday, October 6, 2017 3:31 PM

6STRINGJOKER


I don't see what's funny about that.

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Friday, October 6, 2017 3:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I'll see you one giphy and raise you one.





My giphys are better than yours. But that's all your response rates.

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Friday, October 6, 2017 7:41 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I don't see what's funny about that.



Again you show yourself to be a moron. When the west tries to work with Saudi Araba SIG says we are working with the devil. When the Russians do it its OK.

Enough Jack, you can't be American. The list of threads and posts showing you backing SIGS hate against the west is far to long. The list of threads without a challenge by you, only a defense claiming it's fake news, of what Russia does, including interfering in our elections is also to long, comrade.






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Friday, October 6, 2017 8:24 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Yup. You got me. I'm a Russian.

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Saturday, October 7, 2017 12:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Isn't THUGR a hoot?? He's managed to "find" THREE Russians on a no-account fansite visited by all of maybe 20 people!

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Saturday, October 7, 2017 12:12 AM

6STRINGJOKER


I wonder which Bond Villain T imagines when he's posting to me?

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:57 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

I don't see what's funny about that.



Again you show yourself to be a moron. When the west tries to work with Saudi Araba SIG says we are working with the devil. When the Russians do it its OK.

Enough Jack, you can't be American. The list of threads and posts showing you backing SIGS hate against the west is far to long. The list of threads without a challenge by you, only a defense claiming it's fake news, of what Russia does, including interfering in our elections is also to long, comrade.



T

Trump must surely be the most contemptible excuse for a human being currently polluting planet Earth. A peace-loving man planning to get married has just been butchered inside a Saudi Arabian Consulate while his fiancee waited outside.Trump's immediate reaction was to defend Khashoggi's butchers, without even one word of token sympathy for his fiancee





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Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:40 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Let's not forget that Israel is a big suck-up to Saudi Arabia, and vice versa.

Quote:

Israel and Saudi Arabia: What's shaping the covert 'alliance'
To all intents and purposes, Saudi Arabia and Israel are de facto allies in the struggle against Iran's rising influence in the region. It's a developing but highly sensitive relationship, but every so often there is a hint of what may be going on beneath the surface.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42094105

Not hearing much outrage from Israel on the killing of Khashoggi either. They're treating this as a "strategic problem" for their joint anti-Iran program.

There's a lot going on beneath the surface.

Not too long ago, the M$M was hailing MBS as a visionary, moderate reformer. This latest M$M turnabout blitz is definitely NOT a case of reacting to Saudi's human-rights violations; if it were, they would have been on top of Saudi war crimes in Yemen years ago.

Right now, the only thing I'm detecting is a joint program between the deep state and the M$M to put Trump in a vise. I know I've mentioned this before, but the interpretation that makes the most sense to me is that MBS was Trump's anti-deep-state guy in Saudi Arabia. I'm sure you've been aware that MBS ran roughshod over a number of the other Royal Family (many of them connected to the CIA, the Bush family, and/or the Clintons), killed a few of them, kidnapped and extorted many of them; and that there was an attempted coup against him not too long ago.

The problem is that MBS is a very unworthy ally: Not only is he a probable psychopath, he's a STUPID psychopath and started a war in Yemen (which is going very badly) and a blockage against Qatar (a major USA ally). I wouldn't be surprised if he had Khashoggi killed ... In a Saudi consulate, no less! How stupid is THAT?? ... and I'll bet that right now the Trump administration is scrambling for a solution.

A few possible responses:

1) MBS/Trump allies (are there any?) in the Royal Family will put up someone else to take MBS' place

2) They'll dump it on some underling's shoulders.





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Thursday, October 18, 2018 3:34 PM

THG


I'm sorry sig but I was speaking about your lack of outrage, but you know that comrade. Further, your attempt to spin recent events into a deep state conspiracy is sick. Being sick you can't control yourself can you comrade?

T


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Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol, yup.

It's been at least a year since T has been claiming that Americans aren't American because they think he's full of shit.

Thanks for the reminder.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 19, 2018 10:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

originally posted by THG:
I'm sorry sig but I was speaking about your lack of outrage, but you know that comrade. Further, your attempt to spin recent events into a deep state conspiracy is sick. Being sick you can't control yourself can you comrade?


Do you know what the relationship is between Russia and Saudi Arabia?

Saudi Arabia is investing in Russia and Russia is selling them defensive weapons (supposedly. Hasn't happened yet)

Do you know what OUR relationship is with Saudi Arabia? I'll give you one example, in Yemen: Not only do we sell them arms and repair their systems, we operate radar systems and give them sat Intel and provide targeting data. Now THAT is a close relationship!!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Saturday, October 20, 2018 2:16 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The US has only 2 long-term allies in the ME - SA (petrodollar, est 1973) and Israel. (Egypt is extorting the US for aid money to keep itself on the sidelines re Israel. Turkey has only been weak, part-time ally.)

The US has forgiven both of its allies numerous atrocities over the decades. And as despicable as both Israel and SA are, this is nothing new or different.

But it's being whipped into a froth at the moment (hey - whatever happen to the outrage over UKRAINE!!!, RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! and ASSAD MOST GO!!! ... ?) to manipulate people into barking over the outrage of the day.


You all will forget about this as soon as the media runs another rabbit past you to mindlessly chase after.




tic tac

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Saturday, October 20, 2018 8:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

You all will forget about this as soon as the media runs another rabbit past you to mindlessly chase after.



Christine Blasey who? What's a Puerto Rico?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 20, 2018 10:17 AM

THG


Trump a reluctant critic of Saudi Arabia despite pressure to act

Six days after Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi disappeared, U.S. President Donald Trump tried to play down the crisis, saying “hopefully that will sort itself out”.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-khashoggi-trump/trump-a-reluc
tant-critic-of-saudi-arabia-despite-pressure-to-act-idUSKCN1MU0AI



T

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Saturday, October 20, 2018 10:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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We'd be much better off if we let them sort it out.

I remember when Democrats used to think along those lines as well.

Those were the days, huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 20, 2018 11:46 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
The US has only 2 long-term allies in the ME - SA (petrodollar, est 1973) and Israel. (Egypt is extorting the US for aid money to keep itself on the sidelines re Israel. Turkey has only been weak, part-time ally.)

The US has forgiven both of its allies numerous atrocities over the decades. And as despicable as both Israel and SA are, this is nothing new or different.

But it's being whipped into a froth at the moment (hey - whatever happen to the outrage over UKRAINE!!!, RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! and ASSAD MOST GO!!! ... ?) to manipulate people into barking over the outrage of the day.


You all will forget about this as soon as the media runs another rabbit past you to mindlessly chase after.




tic tac

Squirrel!!

I have been wondering. It's OK for Hilliary to kill Vince Foster, and BJ to kill off Ron Brown, both while residing in the White House, but there should be outrage over a quasi-pseudo-journalist being killed in Turkey while Trump is POTUS?


After Obama drumming up all those Wars in the Greater Mediterranean Area, killing countless thousands of women and children, suddenly MSM has awoken to ONE GUY dying?

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