Does college still have a purpose in the age of ChatGPT? by 6ixStringJack

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Does college still have a purpose in the age of ChatGPT?

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Tuesday, May 27, 2025 1:59 PM

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college-still-have-a-purpose-in-the-age-of-chatgpt/articleshow/121437441.cms

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Not really.

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For many college students these days, life is a breeze. Assignments that once demanded days of diligent research can be accomplished in minutes. Polished essays are available, on demand, for any topic under the sun. No need to trudge through Dickens or Demosthenes; all the relevant material can be instantly summarized after a single chatbot prompt.

Welcome to academia in the age of artificial intelligence. As several recent reports have shown, outsourcing one’s homework to AI has become routine. Perversely, students who still put in the hard work often look worse by comparison with their peers who don’t. Professors find it nearly impossible to distinguish computer-generated copy from the real thing — and, even weirder, have started using AI themselves to evaluate their students’ work.

It’s an untenable situation: computers grading papers written by computers, students and professors idly observing, and parents paying tens of thousands of dollars a year for the privilege. At a time when academia is under assault from many angles, this looks like a crisis in the making.

Please. Let's not pretend that 80% of the people who graduated college in the last 50 years didn't need any of it and nothing they paid for ever helped them a single time at any job they ever worked in their lives.

You're only noticing it now because it's impossible not to notice that nobody is actually doing any work anymore and just looking at all the stupid, low-IQ white trash coming out of colleges in current year.

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Tuesday, May 27, 2025 7:05 PM

SIGNYM

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Our colleges are mostly diploma-mills intent on sucking up those student- loan shekels by trotting students thru useless programs... BUT ... there are things you can ONLY learn in college, SIX. Physics, chemistry, biology, engineering, dentistry, medicine, biochemistry, geology, even warfare and history.

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Tuesday, May 27, 2025 7:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Our colleges are mostly diploma-mills intent on sucking up those student- loan shekels by trotting students thru useless programs... BUT ... there are things you can ONLY learn in college, SIX. Physics, chemistry, biology, engineering, dentistry, medicine, biochemistry, geology, even warfare and history.

I realize that there are Sigs, but let's be real here. How many people learn any of that and how many people do we even need in college to learn any of that?

I know full well that the answer is not zero and there is a place for higher learning in our country.

I liked biology and I did well in high school, so I took it for one of my science based core requirements and I actually aced that course, despite having the hard-assed female teacher who actually was a co-author of the TOME that we had for that class. But even then, it wasn't a "hard" class. That book was basically a waste of money. About 1,200 pages, and so big that it barely fit in your backpack and weighing in at 5lbs, but maybe we covered 50 to 100 pages at best by the end of the semester.

90% of American Citizens that go to college either have no business going to college in the first place and/or are going to end up getting nothing out of it other than a bill that they're going to spend decades paying off.

And almost 30% of Harvard students are not American Citizens. You know how many Chinese spies we've trained here???

For most of us, College is all a big fucking joke and a grift.

I resent that any job I've applied for above retail has made it a requirement for a college diploma before they'll even look at your resume. College makes 9 out of 10 kids that go there dumber after they left than they went in. I'm smart enough and/or have the required training and/or if I'm even remotely capable of doing the job I'm applying for, and I wouldn't waste anybody's time trying to apply for an engineering position, or trying to be a doctor without any training. 90% of the jobs requiring a person have a Bachelor's degree out there do not have any reason or any business making that a requirement.

Companies are figuring that out now. With the winds of change blowing as fiercely as they have been now, at my age without a degree, I might have the easiest time finding a decent job that I've ever had since the late 90's. I'm hearing stories that some companies are actually going out of their way to hire people who don't have college "education" now, and they're actively trying to hire older Gen-Xers and keeping Millennials and younger out of their buildings.

If that's true and I do decide to go back into a workforce that has more to offer me than shitty part-time retail slop, whoever lucks into me would find out pretty quick I'm a better employee in every measurable aspect than anybody they'd hired since 2005.

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Tuesday, May 27, 2025 10:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

The phrase I keyed on was "I resent".

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Tuesday, May 27, 2025 11:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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The phrase I keyed on was "I resent".

You're damn right I do. Me and most of GenX.

And look around you and see where that got us.

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Tuesday, May 27, 2025 11:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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The phrase I keyed on was "I resent".

You're damn right I do. Me and most of GenX.

And look around you and see where that got us.

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You're a bright guy. It seems like if anyone could take advantage of further education, it would be you. And with the right major you get something more than a McJob. So, what was your intended college major?

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 12:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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The phrase I keyed on was "I resent".

You're damn right I do. Me and most of GenX.

And look around you and see where that got us.

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You're a bright guy. It seems like if anyone could take advantage of further education, it would be you. So, what was your intended college major?

Only went to Junior College... Never really got as far as to discuss a major. Figured at the time I wanted to get into programming or at least good paying office work. I ended up with great paying office work in 1999 and then again in 2005 and had that taken away from me twice. Without a degree, it was impossible to get any interviews even with my work experience.

Fuck that system.

If they've finally learned their lesson and realized that they don't have to un-teach a bunch of bullshit out of us old dogs with twice the intelligence as these college "educated" dummies who had their heads filled with bullshit and Communist gobbledy gook, maybe I'll reconsider.

I don't jump through hoops for anybody, and I'm certainly not going to waste any time or money getting schooling on any topics I don't need. Ever.

And I think you're missing the whole point by focusing on me here.

Even if I went back to school, what do you think I'd be doing? I'd be using the hell out of AI to get everything done because I'm the smartest guy in the room and I don't do needless work. So what's the point?

If you think the free AI people are using now is impressive, you should see the new Google AI that my brother is paying over $200 per month for and what that's capable of doing. (Something which made me immediately have concerns about the implications of this and what future class-divide AI will lead us to some day not so far away from now).

However worthless college education was to 90% of the people who got it in the last 30 years, it's worth 1,000 times less once these paid for A.I. programs start being "free".

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 12:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

You can't fuck the system, SIX. But it sure can fuck you. I thought you'd have learned that by now.

Yanno, some day you're gonna get old, and I know that everything you think you own can be taken away arbitrarily, but you seem to blinding yourself to preparing for your own future (as much as is possible).

Stop wallowing.

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 2:04 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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The phrase I keyed on was "I resent".
You're damn right I do. Me and most of GenX.

And look around you and see where that got us.
You're a bright guy. It seems like if anyone could take advantage of further education, it would be you. And with the right major you get something more than a McJob. So, what was your intended college major?

You REALLY think that when McDonald's was requiring a Bachelor's for cashier it was a great idea?

Sorry, but you are just being dumb now.

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I resent that any job I've applied for above retail has made it a requirement for a college diploma before they'll even look at your resume.

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 2:35 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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You can't fuck the system, SIX. But it sure can fuck you. I thought you'd have learned that by now.

But I kind of did though.

... at least until they gave me diabetes when they unleashed covid by giving you a jab. But I'm going to consider that one out of my control.

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Yanno, some day you're gonna get old, and I know that everything you think you own can be taken away arbitrarily, but you seem to blinding yourself to preparing for your own future (as much as is possible).

Stop wallowing.

I got 10, maybe 15 years left if I'm lucky. I'm not too worried about it.

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 2:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The phrase I keyed on was "I resent".
You're damn right I do. Me and most of GenX.

And look around you and see where that got us.
You're a bright guy. It seems like if anyone could take advantage of further education, it would be you. And with the right major you get something more than a McJob. So, what was your intended college major?
You REALLY think that when McDonald's was requiring a Bachelor's for cashier it was a great idea?

Sorry, but you are just being dumb now.

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I resent that any job I've applied for above retail has made it a requirement for a college diploma before they'll even look at your resume.

Thank you, Jaynez.

Most jobs don't require any degree. Not even a high school diploma, especially since none of these kids getting them today can fucking read or do any math anyway.

Any jobs that don't actually require schooling, which is the VAST majority of them, have nothing more than varying degrees of on the job training and experience that you're ONLY going to get doing that job. And very rarely does the work experience and training you got on any job above retail translate easily somewhere else other than the fact that it's not your first rodeo by the time you get to the next one, and you should have an easier time picking things up when you're new.

School, in all of its forms, for 90% of us is nothing more than a means of beating us down into cogs for the machine. Stripping away your personality and individualism as much as they possibly can for 12 years, and again for another 4 or more if you inflict that lifelong debt upon yourself to learn nothing worth learning.

This is not a bug. It's a feature. It is why the public school system was created in the first place.

They don't teach you that in school, of course, but it doesn't mean that it isn't true.

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 3:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Yanno SIX, your endlesss, entitled, butt-hurt whinging is boring.

Think of something new, please.

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 3:50 AM

SIGNYM

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TV host and mikeroweWORKS Foundation CEO Mike Rowe says the current labor shortage and shifting work ethic are rooted in deeper cultural changes.

“We’re the clouds from which the snowflakes fell,” he said, suggesting older generations helped create today’s workforce mindset, according to Fox News.

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