Mudder's Milk -- anyone want to suggest a recipe? by gojiro

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Mudder's Milk -- anyone want to suggest a recipe?

POSTED BY: GOJIRO
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:50 PM

Okay, I'm having a Big Damn Halloween Shindig, and I am toying with the idea of making some kind of punch. Seems like one of those party things to do.

Of course, the first Firefly beverage that comes to mind is Mudder's Milk. But I'm stymied. What do you think would make a good (non-alcoholic) recipe? I was thinking something chocolate, maybe, but I dunno what. Anyone have a recipe for a chocolate punch?

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:57 PM

EMBERS

Well you could just call a black cow by another name...
that is root beer w/chocolate ice cream is tasty

a lot of people make fruit punch w/sherbet floating in it, but most people don't serve a coke or root beer float as a punch, but there is no reason why you can't....

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:58 PM

STATIC

Well. . .

You're talking NON-Alcoholic. . .

You want to take your basic Protien/Weight-Gain/Meal Replacement type shake that you can buy from any fitness store and add something like "Red Bull" or "Amp" or another high-energy drink.

For anyone interested in an alcoholic version, add 15% Everclear, which is flavorless, colorless and odorless.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:59 PM

GOJIRO

I like it. It's quick. It's simple. It's delicious!

Em, you're a genius!

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:04 PM

GOJIRO

Tamade, Static, that sounds deadly! With or without the Everclear!

True story: I was never in a frat, but my buddy was. He invited me to a frat party, where, of course, the main attraction was getting as drunk as possible, as fast a possible. This included drinking honest-to-God moonshine. Came in a Mason jar and everything. (This was at the University of Kentucky -- he went there, not me.)

So they get the jar out, but uh-oh, the lid is rusty. No one is sure if the hooch is still good. So to test it, they pour a shot and LIGHT IT ON FIRE. If it burns blue, it's safe; yellow, it can make you go blind (or vice versa, I can't recall).

Naturally, I declined to partake, even though it burned the safe color. Any liquor that must be set afire to determine its potability is not for me. But everyone else drank it. My hand to God.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:11 PM

CAPNRAHN

Static! You must been drinkin' 'Clear too much and burned out you taste-buds

it does have an odor & taste (rotting/fermenting corn, duh)

Yep I am an avid user of 'clear for the few times a year parties! Usually mixed with some variant of gatoraide to keep pace with the fluid loss caused by alcohol. Also it has potassium, sodium and other things alcohol stripps away. And that equals - no hangover, if yer prone to them.

Isn't Mudders milk a white/gray? I truly don't remember.

If so...

Non: White chocolate pudding - thinned with something to repoduce the 'hoppy' taste of beer, something to cut the sweetness, but have a good flavor.

Alcoholic: white chocolate pudding again, everclear {to indvidual taste} for kick and perhaps pear cider and Ice Lime gatoraide.

Dunno, not tried it yet - the pudding may curdle, but a blender on frappe with some ice may fix that.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:41 PM

TMURRIE

I remember a couple months ago at our city's annual heritage festival, I tried this one Nicaraguan drink "cacao". It is made of roasted cocoa, milk, sugar, and is served cold. I haven't found an actual recipe, but that's the first thing in mind when I think of mudder's milk. Here's a reference, it's somewhere on the page http://www.heritage-festival.com/images/HF_Menu_21.pdf

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:15 PM

NEEDLESEYE

Quote:
Originally posted by tmurrie:
Nicaraguan drink "cacao". It is made of roasted cocoa, milk, sugar, and is served cold.

...er, wouldn't that be chocolate milk?

Quote:
Originally posted by gojiro:
So to test it, they pour a shot and LIGHT IT ON FIRE. If it burns blue, it's safe; yellow, it can make you go blind (or vice versa, I can't recall).

I can only imagine what else they lit on fire after a few shots. :P

What about Kahlua with cream or milk? Oh, non alcoholic... hmmm :/

Keeper of Jayne's goggles. 8)

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:12 PM

CAPNRAHN

Blue is good - Yellow BAAAAD

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:24 PM

DAIKATH

Quote:
Originally posted by gojiro:
So they get the jar out, but uh-oh, the lid is rusty. No one is sure if the hooch is still good. So to test it, they pour a shot and LIGHT IT ON FIRE. If it burns blue, it's safe; yellow, it can make you go blind (or vice versa, I can't recall).

Looks like you were treated in the finest of beverages that make you go blind ;). Or was this one too obvious?

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Friday, October 29, 2004 1:25 AM

CAPNRAHN

Just fer the hezmana of it...
Excerpted from 'Alcohol Fermentation':
Heat a small amount of the spirit in a pan until it is well warmed. Turn off the heat, then put a flame to the warmed alcohol. If it is `clean' spirit with few impurities, it should burn with a steady blue flame. If the flame is flecked with yellow or orange, or if the flame sputters while burning, do not drink it - use it as an embrocation (rubbing, massage} instead.

Colors
For those interested in flame colors:{Some but not limited to...} Not necessarily drinkable, possibly DEADLY!

Carmine - Lithium Chloride

Red - Strontium Chloride

Orange - Calcium Chloride (a bleaching powder)

Yellow - Sodium Chloride (table salt)or Sodium Carbonate

Yellowish - Green Borax

Green - Copper Sulfate

Blue - Copper Chloride {already in water}

Violet - 3 parts Potassium Sulfate
1 part Potassium Nitrate (saltpeter)

Purple - Potassium Chloride

White Magnesium Sulfate - (Epsom salts)

ID'JIT WARNIN' : DON'T PLAY WITH FIRE WHILE INTOXICATED OR RUNNIN' A STILL!

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Friday, October 29, 2004 2:14 AM

STATIC

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
Static! You must been drinkin' 'Clear too much and burned out you taste-buds it does have an odor & taste (rotting/fermenting corn, duh)

Very true. My mistake.

Perhaps a more accurate statement would be that it has a flavor and odor that is more easily masked by whatever it's mixed with. . .which is why it's such a universal mixer?

I honestly don't have a taste for many types of alcohol. . .I'm a close to exclusive in my tastes to Jameson and Bushmills whiskeys. I simply assumed Everclear would be the best choice since it's used in so many other combinations.

I suppose as far as alcoholic mixers would go for Mudder's milk, you can add what you like. With MY recipe, I was not going so much for yummy flavor as I was 'script accuracy'. . .

"All the protiens, vitamins and minerals of your Mama's best turkey dinner, (the meal replacement shake) plus 15% alcohol."

"It's horrific."

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Friday, October 29, 2004 2:27 AM

DAIKATH

I always thought he said 50% lol.

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Friday, October 29, 2004 3:09 AM

WILDHEAVENFARM

I don't know for virgin things, but for them as want to make something accurate to the show - SlimFast and Baileys, with vodka or spiced rum for extra kick. Whatever you use, you'll want it to be thick, almost gloppy. Ya know, a little unflavored gelatin (Knox) goes a long way.

I may also have cracked the mysteries of Ice Planet, if anyone is keen.

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

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Friday, October 29, 2004 3:14 AM

WILDHEAVENFARM

Quote:
Originally posted by Static:

For anyone interested in an alcoholic version, add 15% Everclear, which is flavorless, colorless and odorless.

Funny you should mention that, my husband died drinking that stuff - twice. (This isn't a temperance lecture, I swear.) He drank two bottles, straight, in one sitting, while he was USAF. Thankfully, he passed out on the picnic table where he and his friend liked to congregate. They happened upon him, dragged him to the hospital, and ran like hell. While the doctors were working on him, he arrested twice and each time came back on his own. True story. I also had a friend who used to carry a camel-back of Everclear and orange juice on his back all day, and I mean starting at 8am.

Mary
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Friday, October 29, 2004 4:07 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by gojiro:
I like it. It's quick. It's simple. It's delicious!

I like your idea of serving something dark and muddy looking...
and I think this thread has become really funny!
thanks for starting it!

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Friday, October 29, 2004 5:59 AM

SHINYSEVEN

Err, in the interests of keeping the party Not TOO interesting, I'd suggest eggnog mix--the kind they sell in the stores is non-alcoholic. Or vanilla soy milk, maybe mixed up in a blender with some ice cubes and bananas to thicken.

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Friday, October 29, 2004 6:58 AM

ZARK1976

for people wanting to make it somewhat more show accurate, if I remember right, Simon said that it was like the beer the pharohs served to their slaves, there's probably all kinds of recipes for beer online that can be brewed and not have the sediment removed. *GAG*

not my favorite idea for a drink, but there it is.

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 9:38 AM

WILDHEAVENFARM

Quote:
Originally posted by zark1976:
Simon said that it was like the beer the pharohs served to their slaves, there's probably all kinds of recipes for beer online that can be brewed and not have the sediment removed. *GAG*

not my favorite idea for a drink, but there it is.

Yeah, that doesn't sound very good. Beer shouldn't be crunchy. Simon did say "ancestral form of beer" and the final forms of things are often widely different from how they started, so maybe it wasn't really very beer-like at all.

Does Simon's description of "liquid bread" set off anyone's mental hamster wheels? I didn't do anthing for mine, not yet at least.

What if Mudder's Milk were more like a soup? Maybe like a good potato soup, but you add a good deal more than the shot of vodka called for in some recipes.

Mary
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Saturday, October 30, 2004 10:04 AM

CORWYN

Quote:
Originally posted by zark1976:
Simon said that it was like the beer the pharohs served to their slaves, there's probably all kinds of recipes for beer online that can be brewed and not have the sediment removed.

I have tried beer made from an ancient egyptian recipe. Quite yummy if you like chewy beers (probably closest a brown ale). sweet (since no hops to bitter it down). Beer hasn't changed much over the millennia (other than the hops, that swill 'light beer', and the stuff with the rooster added).

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What if Mudder's Milk were more like a soup? Maybe like a good potato soup, but you add a good deal more than the shot of vodka called for in some recipes.

Why are people thinking it has to be thick? I don't remember anything from the show. The bottles had a pretty narrow mouth, not something you could get potato soup through.

Thank You Kindly.

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 12:37 PM

WILDHEAVENFARM

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Originally posted by corwyn:
Why are people thinking it has to be thick? I don't remember anything from the show. The bottles had a pretty narrow mouth, not something you could get potato soup through.

It sounds sloppy when Jayne pours it? I dunno. Besides which, it wouldn't be a real problem. "Cream of"-type soups are easily pourable.

Mary
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Saturday, October 30, 2004 12:50 PM

CORWYN

Quote:
Originally posted by WildHeavenFarm:
It sounds sloppy when Jayne pours it? I dunno. Besides which, it wouldn't be a real problem. "Cream of"-type soups are easily pourable.

Who's gonna clean those bottles? You?

Thank You Kindly.

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 2:32 PM

WILDHEAVENFARM

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Originally posted by corwyn:
Who's gonna clean those bottles? You?

Bottles? Like as not, we'll be drinking it out of the mixing bowl.

Mary
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Saturday, October 30, 2004 3:04 PM

MERCEDESTROY

I never got the impression that it was thick, but it was milky - opaque rather than translucent or clear. So whatever you do, would almost have to start with a cream or milk base.

Heck you want nutrients, throw in some protein powder and blend it with ice. And then flavor to taste.

My unfortunate condition of a seriously lacking sense of taste and smell rather prevents me from suggesting any things that would taste good together in order to enjoy the drinking experience.

Debs

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 9:13 PM

TWHY

In a pinch, you could always use Kahluah and milk. For a non alcoholic version, some sort of Chai

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Sunday, October 31, 2004 7:13 AM

GOJIRO

For those interested, this is the recipe I wound up using, since it just sounded good. And it was.

1.5 quarts water
.5 cup instant chocolate drink (i.e. hot cocoa mix)
.5 cup sugar
.25 cup instant coffee granules
.5 gallon vanilla ice cream
.5 gallon chocolate ice cream
1 cup whipped cream, whipped (I forgot this. D'OH!)

20 servings, 5 quarts, 4 hours prep time, 5 minutes mix time

1. In a large sauce pan, bring the water to a boil then remove from heat.
2. Add the cocoa mix, sugar, and instant coffee.
3. Stir until dissolved. Cover, let cool, and refrigerate for 4 hours or overnight.
4. About 30 minutes before serving, pour into a punch bowl. Add the ice cream by scoopfuls; stir until partially melted. Garnish with dollops of whipped cream. (Again, forgot.)

The taste was most often compared to a mocha chocolate shake, which was about the consistency, too. Gives you all the sugar, caffeine, and calories you need to make it through the night.

For folk wishing to spike it, a little rum would probably taste real nice in the mix.

I think most who tried it liked it! It was gone by the end of the night, least ways.

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Sunday, October 31, 2004 11:09 AM

LTNOWIS

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I have tried beer made from an ancient egyptian recipe. Quite yummy if you like chewy beers

The ancient Egyptians would drink their beer using special straws to filter out the lumps. At least, that's what I learned in 3rd grade history.

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Sunday, October 31, 2004 12:40 PM

CORWYN

Quote:
Originally posted by LtNOWIS:
Quote:
I have tried beer made from an ancient egyptian recipe. Quite yummy if you like chewy beers

The ancient Egyptians would drink their beer using special straws to filter out the lumps. At least, that's what I learned in 3rd grade history.

Love to see a primary source on that. I have found that 90% of the things I learned in 3rd grade are false.

N.B. When I say 'chewy' I mean in the beer sense, high density.

Thank You Kindly.

p.s. most of the recipes given sound way too good...

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Monday, November 1, 2004 11:36 AM

BADGERSHAT

Quote:
Originally posted by Static:
Well. . .

... For anyone interested in an alcoholic version, add 15% Everclear, which is flavorless, colorless and odorless.

B]

... and has FUMES strong enough to kill the average bear from 10 feet away...

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Tuesday, November 2, 2004 8:10 AM

GOJIRO

BUMP for those interested in what recipe I used for the party. See my post above.

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Tuesday, November 2, 2004 4:46 PM

ZARK1976

Quote:
Originally posted by LtNOWIS:
Quote:
I have tried beer made from an ancient egyptian recipe. Quite yummy if you like chewy beers

The ancient Egyptians would drink their beer using special straws to filter out the lumps. At least, that's what I learned in 3rd grade history.

Dang, I never learned about beer in 3rd grade. Stupid teachers always holding back the good learning.

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Tuesday, November 2, 2004 7:37 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

Towards the beer slant, a west indian aquaintance of mine sweared the following was a breakfast drink:

12 oz Guiness Stout
1 shot brandy
1 egg (raw)
1/2 cup heavy cream

Never tried it.

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Wednesday, November 3, 2004 5:05 AM

WILDHEAVENFARM

Quote:
Originally posted by Veteran:
Towards the beer slant, a west indian aquaintance of mine sweared the following was a breakfast drink:

12 oz Guiness Stout
1 shot brandy
1 egg (raw)
1/2 cup heavy cream

Never tried it.

I just want everyone to notice the word "breakfast" in there. Man after my own heart. I once accused a friend of drinking before noon. He argued that it was a continuation of the night before. I countered that his *whole* life was a "continuation of the night before".

So you just blenderize it and drink it down, raw egg and all?

Mary
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Wednesday, November 3, 2004 1:46 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

Quote:
So you just blenderize it and drink it down, raw egg and all?

That's what he told me. I wonder about putting Guiness in a blender though. I'd beat the egg and blend it with the cream and the shot before adding the Guinness.

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Wednesday, November 3, 2004 3:34 PM

ADELE

And what's wrong with Guinness for breakfast? !!!

When I was in Ireland (admittedly it was for St Patrick's Day, so that may have been the excuse) I was roped into drinking whiskey before 9am. We combined it with the standard coffee and cream - plus thick stew (separate bowl, thanks!) and then afterwards a guinness or two...... suffice to say, I didn't quite make it through to the late evening.

As for mudders milk - have always thought of it as a milk and mixer kind of deal - there are plenty of options in the above for me to now go try on friends!! :)

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Sunday, November 7, 2004 7:14 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

The real Firefly beverage - sounds great , if I find the recipe I'll let you know

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Sunday, November 7, 2004 7:52 AM

LAILING

Here's a drink invented for a "Medieval Addams Family" party some years ago (We were at the Pennsic War, and decided to hold a party where everyone came as their fave member of the Addams Family.)

Mudslide mix
Chocolate ice cream
Vodka

Mix to taste and until thick & gloppy (must be gloppy).

We called it Mud. It was very popular.

You could, I suppose, make it with Vanilla ice cream, instead, (although I like the protein shake idea to conform to the nutritional value mentioned in the ep.)
The ideas mentioned for a non-alcoholic version sound ok to me, especially the protein drink ones and egg nog one, or maybe something with vanilla ice cream partially melted and sprite or other clear soda?
Something to think about for Thanksgiving or X-mas.

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