Thank you Tim Minear by billyuno

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Thank you Tim Minear

POSTED BY: BILLYUNO
UPDATED: Friday, November 19, 2004 04:00
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Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:51 PM

I just watched the entire season, all 13 episodes of Wonderfalls, which I downloaded off the internet. (I'll buy the DVD as soon as it comes out, I SWEAR.) This show is a stroke of BRILLIANCE. You can kinda draw some comparisons to Joan of Arcadia maybe, but the writting is MUCH MUCH better.

But as I watched a creeping feeling of discontent started to come over me. I began to wonder if this show would have something that was sorely lacking in other brilliant shows that Fox cancelled in their prime... Closure. I feared the frayed edges that result in all those dangling loose ends. It persisted all the way up to the final few moments of the last episode.

Then something unexpected happened. There was an ending. There was closure to the season. Certainly there would have been room enough for a second season, but I find that I don't need one. Certainly I would LOVE to have one, but it's no longer imperrative. I'm not left feeling like that crack junky who's supplier suddenly moved to Tucumcari.

Thank you Tim Minear for asking your friends on the internet to support this show. Because of that I did watch it when it was on. I made loud screaming noises when it was cancelled and I made a vow to boycott Fox broadcasting from then on out. (Not the Motion Picture studio though because let's face it, even though I & II were somewhat dissapointing, III's gonna have wookies.)

Tim, don't give up. Don't let this victory for stupidity stop you from being brilliant in the future. Just remember, next time Fox asks you to develop show, give them the crap you wrote when you were in 6th grade that seemed like a good idea at the time, and save the REALLY good stuff for the fans to watch on a channel that will show your brilliance the respect it deserves.

Oh and tell your writters they made me cry. I never cry. EVER.

Quote:
Jaye: "Now tell me. WHY do you talk to ME?"
Monkey: "You listen."

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Thursday, November 18, 2004 4:57 AM

RHYMEPHILE

One of my all-time favorite quotes ever of any TV show was in Wonderfalls. I don't download stuff so I can be patient and wait until February.

It was in the last episode that aired, "Pink Flamingoes" and I forget the exact context, but Jaye's sister Sharon says: "You don't have issues, you have a subscripton!" I thought that was such a clever line. There were tons of clever lines in that show.

I can't wait for it to come out on DVD. Stupid FOX, I can't believe they only aired 4 episodes. I saw them all, so watching the unaired ones on DVD will be like discovering the show again.

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"My office! Burgled! Plundered! Purloined! Ha ha ha...loins."

-- Phil Sebben, Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law

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Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:07 AM

LINDLEY

I was never able to find a version of "Lying Pig" (the Jewel Staite episode) that had intelligible audio. Did you find one?

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Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:19 AM

JUKO

The episodes are currently rerunning on VisionTV. But only if you''re in Canada or have access to Canadian television channels.

Does Blue Sun sponser the Blue Man Group?

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Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:26 AM

TOMANTA

Wonderfalls was a brilliant gem of a show that Fox again screwed over.

Comparisons to JoA were just one of the problems, but THAT could have been solved by starting the show before/at the same time as JoA started - it was ready at that time.

Also, Friday nights... well, it's readily apparant that that's a lesson that Fox will never, ever, ever learn even if they had the knowledge implanted directly into their brains.

I've seen every episode but Barrel Bear (decided to save that one for the DVD).

Caroline Dhavernas is an incredible actress that, like many of the most amazingly talented people in hollywood, probably won't see enough work :(.

"FOX! Where the shit hits the fans." - Tim Minear

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Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:45 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

I can't wait to get Wonderfalls on DVD. Jewel told me a bit about her character in the episodes she appears in. Sounds like one of those characters you love to hate.

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"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Meet Up:
http://firefly.meetup.com/9/boards/

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Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:27 AM

SNIPER

I don't think that it would be a good place to ask, but where did you get the episodes?

JediTrilobite@gmail.com

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Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:42 PM

BILLYUNO

Lindey: Yeah, the version of Lying Pig didn't have the best audio, but I could at least hear it.

Sniper: I don't mind saying here, since here is where I found out where to get them myself, indirectly.

From a Bittorret listing at http://suprnova.org/

Jewel's character was in like the last four episodes or so, and yeah she was heinous. It's a testament to her acting that you can love her so much on Firefly and hate her equally on Wonderfalls.

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Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:08 PM

PURPLEBELLY

Thanks also to the show's creators Bryan Fuller and Todd Holland, who endured working in the Northern Latitudes.

The VisionTV shows are appearing on Usenet so a better version of Lying Pig may be immanent; I've seen Crime Dog, Barrel Bear and Lovesick Ass up on alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi-and-fantasy. Barrel Bear develops characters but doesn't carry much narrative arc, so you can wait for the DVD without losing clarity; clearly, I couldn't

Needless to say, although the quality is better than the post-production versions that appeared earlier this year, you'll still want to buy the wide-screen, DVD quality versions in February.

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On a personal note, I hate the ending of Caged Bird - I'm too European, I guess - but it is detachable ... just hit stop after the scene that you can barely see through the tears

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Friday, November 19, 2004 12:53 AM

NEDWARD

Thanks, PB, I'd clean forgotten good old USENET. The only episode I have in full is Wound-up Penguin, plus a few minutes of three others. It'd be good to see another ep before February!

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Friday, November 19, 2004 4:00 AM

PURPLEBELLY

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Originally posted by nedward:
The only episode I have in full is Wound-up Penguin, plus a few minutes of three others. It'd be good to see another ep before February!

Don't hold back for the sake of not spoiling the drama. IMHO it's strong enough to take several viewings, in or out of order.

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I have and still dissolve on the Rainbow Boulevard line.

The major problem at the moment is finding a board where you can discuss the whole opus without getting swamped by the no-piracy/no-spoilers screamers. I guess for that, I'll have to wait until February.

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