blue sun-river by Rat

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blue sun-river

POSTED BY: RAT
UPDATED: Monday, December 27, 2004 22:54
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Thursday, December 23, 2004 9:09 PM

RAT

How are blue sun and river connected.

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Thursday, December 23, 2004 9:20 PM

SIGMANUNKI

I do believe that the only things that are known is that, Blue Sun ran the school that she went to, they did something to her brain and really want her back.

If I'm not mistaken, beyond that, it's all conjecture.

Unfortunately, I think Joss said in an interview, that the Blue Sun thing has been removed from the story line in the movie. So, we'll never really know where that was all going. Hopefully, the replacement story is as good or better.

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Thursday, December 23, 2004 9:23 PM

RAT

Thanks

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Friday, December 24, 2004 3:53 AM

RABIT

Technically, we never really knew that there was a connection between the "government-run school" and Blue Sun. There was never a specified connection between the government and Blue Sun, so Mal and Company never knew about that. The connection was assumed by the flans (

), then Joss confirmed it in the Serenity commentary (I think) on the DVDs.

Rabit

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Friday, December 24, 2004 4:25 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

River really does not like the labels on BlueSun food stuffs.

That's it. Nothing more.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, December 24, 2004 5:17 AM

EMBERS

well I'm counting on Blue sun being explained in the second or third of the Firefly films....

so I"m looking for more ominous Blue Sun hints in 'Serenity'

JMPO

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Friday, December 24, 2004 6:18 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
well I'm counting on Blue sun being explained in the second or third of the Firefly films....

so I"m looking for more ominous Blue Sun hints in 'Serenity'

JMPO

While I agree 100% that I'd LIKE to see the BlueSun sub plot work out in that manner, don't hold your breath. Not giving any spoilers away, because I really don't know any, but my GUT feeling is that we'll be presented w/ some subtle differences in Serenity that might involve all out omissions of some things . That's how I'm gonna approach the movie...if I'm wrong, all that more shiny!

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, December 24, 2004 10:54 AM

SIGMANUNKI

Well although there is nothing explicit, we do know that River went to the school, got out, and now the Blue Sun guys are after her. Seems like a link to me.

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

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Friday, December 24, 2004 12:16 PM

RABIT

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
and now the Blue Sun guys are after her.

Why do you assume that the "two by two, hands of blue" guys are with Blue Sun?

Seriously, there's nothing saying who those two are actually with. They could be government, truant officers, or just about anyone.

Rabit

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 8:21 AM

SIGMANUNKI

Quote:
Originally posted by Rabit:
Quote:
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
and now the Blue Sun guys are after her.
Why do you assume that the "two by two, hands of blue" guys are with Blue Sun? Seriously, there's nothing saying who those two are actually with. They could be government, truant officers, or just about anyone.

Because I don't think that Joss' comments should be taken lightly. He tends to be subtle. I view this as forshadowing something that'll never come :(

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 9:13 AM

SHINYSEVEN

I think in the Jossverse, there's no really meaningful distinction between Eeevil Big Industry and Eeevil Big Government.

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 5:45 PM

RAT

What if Simon and River's father works for, or even owns, Blue Sun and knows everything.

But then "Das crasy tok"

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:29 PM

SIGMANUNKI

That'd be an interesting twist... and perhaps a reason why Simon was so willing to give up his life to save his sister.

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 9:15 PM

RAT

As far as Simon and crew know Blue Sun is not evil.

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Sunday, December 26, 2004 9:46 AM

SIGMANUNKI

I'm not terribly sure that we should make that assumption.

I mean, if you had basically only one choice of brand when you bought things, you'd be forced to buy it no matter what you thought of the corp that produced them.

It's a matter of accepting your surroundings, not whether you like them or not.

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

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Sunday, December 26, 2004 11:06 AM

RAT

You can always drink RC.

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Monday, December 27, 2004 3:05 PM

RAT

Quote:
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

I mean, if you had basically only one choice of brand when you bought things, you'd be forced to buy it no matter what you thought of the corp that produced them.

It's a matter of accepting your surroundings, not whether you like them or not.

Are you talking about Blue Sun or Wal-Mart?

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Monday, December 27, 2004 10:54 PM

SIGMANUNKI

Quote:
Originally posted by Rat:

Are you talking about Blue Sun or Wal-Mart?

Good one

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