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WE WAITED 18 YEARS FOR A REBOOT AND DISNEY IS GOING TO DO IT...AND THEN STERILIZE COMPANIONS???!

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020 1:24 AM

WISHIMAY


Because...DISNEY...



https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/firefly-reboot-disney.html


My source tells me that Disney is in early development on a Firefly reboot. The new show would start the story of Captain Mal Reynolds and his crew aboard the Serenity over from scratch, with an aim to make this a long-running series on Disney+. There is a twist here and the twist is that they see the show as ideal family-friendly programming for Disney+. My source tells me they’re planning to target it more at a PG-adventure, family audience and less at the sort of PG-13 dynamic the original Joss Whedon show went for.

This shift in tone suggests the new version of Firefly might drop characters like Inara, who is basically a prostitute. Instead it’ll probably lean more into the fun and adventure aspect of the universe’s stories. Fans may initially be unhappy, but it’s easy to see a way it could work.

My source was unable to confirm to me whether series creator Joss Whedon is actually involved in the new Firefly reboot. Whedon has recently been embroiled in a strange controversy with some of his former actors and it’s made him difficult to employ.

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020 1:40 AM

WISHIMAY


My second thought...where is the "adventure" part coming in at??

There's no aliens. The worlds have been terraformed. Anomalies have been mapped.

Besides the triple moon/sun/ purple plants gags...what's there to "explore"??

AND don't even begin to tell me they are going to do away with the petty thieving of it all???


Beginning to sound like Elsa And The Other Princesses Go To Space??


Ugh.

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:19 AM

ZEEK


Yeah I'm not a big fan of that description. If Fox wasn't bad enough at dumbing it down, Disney is going to go above and beyond and turn them all into a family comedy. That is not a recipe for success IMO.

They mention they don't know if Joss is involved. I can't imagine he would be if they're trying to remove all the grit and drama from it.

So, basically this is Firefly in name only. I'm not interested.

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by ZEEK:
Yeah I'm not a big fan of that description. If Fox wasn't bad enough at dumbing it down, Disney is going to go above and beyond and turn them all into a family comedy. That is not a recipe for success IMO.

They mention they don't know if Joss is involved. I can't imagine he would be if they're trying to remove all the grit and drama from it.

So, basically this is Firefly in name only. I'm not interested.

So now we have FINO. Great.


Next they will start naming every other film Serenity, instead of only one film with that na......oh, wait....

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:21 AM

WHOZIT


They're going to do to "Firefly" what they did to "STAR WARS", ruin it.

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:25 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
They're going to do to "Firefly" what they did to "STAR WARS", ruin it.

They could do what Boom Comics did to "Firefly", ruin it.

Read all the Firefly comics for free at https://getcomics.info/?s=firefly

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, December 18, 2020 7:40 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by ZEEK:

Yeah I'm not a big fan of that description. If Fox wasn't bad enough at dumbing it down, Disney is going to go above and beyond and turn them all into a family comedy. That is not a recipe for success IMO.

They mention they don't know if Joss is involved. I can't imagine he would be if they're trying to remove all the grit and drama from it.

So, basically this is Firefly in name only. I'm not interested.



Disney owns Star Wars and that is action packed. Those already made play on tv all the time so who knows. Personally, I was a fan of the original and don't much care to see a new cast.

T


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Friday, December 18, 2020 5:54 PM

WISHIMAY


I don't mind a new cast so much, although they just white wash everyone these days and Ken and Barbie them...perfect fake hair, teeth, and boobs at alll times...

I mean that's what I liked to begin with... is that they were actual people. Pretty, but had character...

I have a HUGE issue with them taking out companions and giving over to religious extremism.

Even in the future, we're not allowed to discuss sex or have any damn body autonomy?

When are we going to catch up to other countries and stop outlawing physical freedoms over sex and death??

I swear...we win the lottery...we're outta here!!





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Sunday, December 20, 2020 2:09 AM

WISHIMAY


^bump


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Sunday, December 27, 2020 12:51 AM

WISHIMAY


bump^

Kinda figured a few more ppl from the old days would drop by to talk about this.

Figures that they're finally doing this now that no one cares anymore *sigh*




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Sunday, December 27, 2020 2:19 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
bump^

Kinda figured a few more ppl from the old days would drop by to talk about this.

Figures that they're finally doing this now that no one cares anymore *sigh*






Not to sound like Luke Skywalker but I care. And I agree with the sanitizing Companions. But I have to admit I am slightly curious to see.

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Sunday, December 27, 2020 3:11 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:


Not to sound like Luke Skywalker but I care. And I agree with the sanitizing Companions. But I have to admit I am slightly curious to see.



That sounds like you AGREE with them sterilizing out companions, but I think you mean it the other way

It appears they are also re-booting the comics with Zoe's kid... in her 20's... Captain of the ship. When you can pick a whole new crew they can be squeaky clean, sadly.

The more I see of Disney the more I realize that they ARE turning into Blue Sun, trying to "socially engineer" stupid people. That's what FF was about. It never works.

Some people always WANT to be ignorant shit no matter what. Only by fixing the biology that causes that are we going to get anywhere. Hopefully before we blow ourselves to bits...





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Sunday, December 27, 2020 3:36 PM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
bump^

Kinda figured a few more ppl from the old days would drop by to talk about this.

Figures that they're finally doing this now that no one cares anymore *sigh*




I care, but get back to me when there’s something more tangible than “my source tells me”.
As far as I’m concerned right now this is just another BS rumor.

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Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:26 PM

BRENDA


My mistake Wishi. Didn't pay attention to what I was typing. No, I don't agree with the sanitizing of Companions. I meant I agreed with you.

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Sunday, December 27, 2020 7:24 PM

THG


Followed the link. If they do to it what the writer suggests, it ain't Firefly. I think once again the fate of Firefly is in the hands of morons who don't get it and the reboot will not even draw a loyal fan base.

T


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Monday, December 28, 2020 11:33 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:


I care, but get back to me when there’s something more tangible than “my source tells me”.
As far as I’m concerned right now this is just another BS rumor.




There were rumors before the pandemic started that they were looking to do it. I'm of a mind this is fairly reliable. They need content.






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Monday, December 28, 2020 5:14 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:


I care, but get back to me when there’s something more tangible than “my source tells me”.
As far as I’m concerned right now this is just another BS rumor.




There were rumors before the pandemic started that they were looking to do it. I'm of a mind this is fairly reliable. They need content.




Color me silly but I think the firefly fan base has probably grown a bit sine it first aired. Maybe Disney should tread lightly to avoid pissing them/us off.

T


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Monday, December 28, 2020 9:43 PM

WISHIMAY


Well, there was recently an article ranking attractiveness of ships in sci fi and they rated Serenity as one of the uglier ones and were inundated with irate people, so I think they could still be irritated to death by us, I just think they are big enough to not give a damn anyway.




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Wednesday, December 30, 2020 11:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Name a single reboot that was good in the last few decades. I'm sure there is one out there, but I can't think of one.

That being said, I've been trying to tell you about this for years now Wish.

I'm going to assume that since we're on a Firefly fan site that this show meant more to you than your average property and that is why this particular one is bothering you.


By the time Disney gets its hands on Firefly, The Goonies is going to look gritter.




If Inara is removed, or her profession is changed from that of a prostitute, that won't be because of the religious right though. That's the ever-growing powers that be consolidating and sterilizing everything.

In their eyes, Captain Marvel is Girl Power and Inara from OG Firefly is an objectified woman who is a terrible role model for girls.



Maybe this is what we need. A few more things that you like being censored and cancelled.



Sorry it had to be Firefly.


If Inara isn't in it, or she's not a companion, I won't be watching. Doesn't matter what else they promise. Not interested.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 1:47 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



If Inara isn't in it, or she's not a companion, I won't be watching. Doesn't matter what else they promise. Not interested.




She has three kids now. I highly doubt she was gonna come back anyway.

In the series she'd be a house mother or something else by now. Maybe a General.

Yeah, General Inara


BTW, do you even realize that your posts bounce from non-linear point to non-linear point worse than ever?? Do you understand that is a sign of dementia??



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Thursday, December 31, 2020 5:12 AM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:

I care, but get back to me when there’s something more tangible than “my source tells me”.
As far as I’m concerned right now this is just another BS rumor.




There were rumors before the pandemic started that they were looking to do it. I'm of a mind this is fairly reliable. They need content.



A rumor before the pandemic is still just a rumor.
Let me know when they have contracts signed and have Serenity’s sets rebuilt.

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 11:17 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Peeps - whaaa... hate to break it to you, but the Firefly people fell in love is long dead and buried - even the worms have moved on.

Disney+ sucks for adult/mature entertainment - that's a given. It's in the business of making money, and it wouldn't be G-14ing Firefly if they didn't think it would MAKE MONEY. So spread some blame to the consumer. Besides, how did Firefly do in it's first run?

And this is just one article - rumors mostly. Probably some Trek fan just having a laugh.

If that's what Disney actually does do, I'll definitely watch it just out of curiosity.

Be glad they aren't going to Mark Hamill Mal and the rest of the gang.

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 11:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



If Inara isn't in it, or she's not a companion, I won't be watching. Doesn't matter what else they promise. Not interested.




She has three kids now. I highly doubt she was gonna come back anyway.

In the series she'd be a house mother or something else by now. Maybe a General.

Yeah, General Inara



I didn't mean the actress playing her. I meant the character and her profession, unchanged.

This IS supposed to be a reboot with the same characters, is it not?


They obviously can't do anything with the same cast. I said years back that it was too late to put OG Firefly back on the air. Everyone is too old now. Nobody wants to see grandpa Mal and grandma Inara.

Quote:

BTW, do you even realize that your posts bounce from non-linear point to non-linear point worse than ever?? Do you understand that is a sign of dementia??



Okey Dokey, Dr. Nilbog.

I'll leave you to go back to work on your fascist killing death-bots.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 12:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Disney+ sucks for adult/mature entertainment - that's a given. It's in the business of making money, and it wouldn't be G-14ing Firefly if they didn't think it would MAKE MONEY. So spread some blame to the consumer. Besides, how did Firefly do in it's first run?



Firefly got well over 2 Million viewers per episode.

They renewed Batwoman for season 2 on the CW even after the main actress quit. The first episode had 1.8 Million viewers. The last episode had less than 800,000 viewers. The lowest watched episode just cleared 600,000 episodes.


But this IS FOX we're talking about...



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:40 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I didn't mean the actress playing her. I meant the character and her profession, unchanged.

This IS supposed to be a reboot with the same characters, is it not?




It says they would be starting over from scratch. Most likely "we can do whatever
spin we like to any character" would apply.

You'd be ok with someone else playing Inara as long as it was still "Inara"??

Any 'ol chick would work, eh?






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Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:44 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Be glad they aren't going to Mark Hamill Mal and the rest of the gang.



I always assumed that's where it was heading for Mal anyway. He seems like the type to self-sacrifice in some destructive yet provocative way.

A good leader doesn't waste a good martyrdom






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Thursday, December 31, 2020 8:52 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


The Disney reboot could be based on Firefly: A Brand New Verse.

Set twenty years after the original series and movie, with the daughter of Zoe and Wash as the new captain of the Serenity, a new crew to captain.



Set 20 years after the events of Firefly, Serenity soars the 'Verse once again with a new captain – Emma, the daughter of Wash and Zo !

The old crew of Serenity has gone their own way and now Emma is working to prove herself to Zoe, alongside a new crew of castaways and misfits just trying to stay afloat.




More at https://bleedingcool.com/comics/20-years-later-a-new-firefly-series-wi
th-wash-zos-daughter-emma
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 1, 2021 1:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I didn't mean the actress playing her. I meant the character and her profession, unchanged.

This IS supposed to be a reboot with the same characters, is it not?




It says they would be starting over from scratch. Most likely "we can do whatever
spin we like to any character" would apply.

You'd be ok with someone else playing Inara as long as it was still "Inara"??

Any 'ol chick would work, eh?





Same with Mal and Wash and Book too. One out of those three is a given and if the acting hits the high bar of the original, it can still work.

Like I said, nobody wants to see Grandpa Mal and Grandma Inara. If they're going to use the same characters than everyone needs to be replaced.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Friday, January 1, 2021 1:06 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The Disney reboot could be based on Firefly: A Brand New Verse.




LOL... Yup. That would be out of Disney's playbook.

Pass.

Watch that one get cancelled quicker than the original.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Friday, January 1, 2021 8:31 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The Disney reboot could be based on Firefly: A Brand New Verse.



Ugh. Bingo - good call. After School Firefly. Without Joss’s snark and twisted but hilarious writing I can’t see liking it, but I’m not their demographic. I’d still check it out.

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Friday, January 1, 2021 9:22 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The Disney reboot could be based on Firefly: A Brand New Verse.



Ugh. Bingo - good call. After School Firefly. Without Joss’s snark and twisted but hilarious writing I can’t see liking it, but I’m not their demographic. I’d still check it out.

Disney could go from "Big Damn Heroes" to "We Can Be Heroes".
The very kid oriented We Can Be Heroes from Netflix:



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 1, 2021 9:58 PM

THG


If they want to please firefly fans they can see to it firefly cortex is completed.

T



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Sunday, January 3, 2021 10:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The Disney reboot could be based on Firefly: A Brand New Verse.



Ugh. Bingo - good call. After School Firefly. Without Joss’s snark and twisted but hilarious writing I can’t see liking it, but I’m not their demographic. I’d still check it out.

Disney could go from "Big Damn Heroes" to "We Can Be Heroes".
The very kid oriented We Can Be Heroes from Netflix:


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




I don't think anybody is going to want to watch Miley Cyrus in Space.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 4:08 AM

WISHIMAY


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I don't think



A-yep.



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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 11:55 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I don't think



A-yep.







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Wednesday, January 6, 2021 10:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't think



A-yep.






Wow. So witty.

Leave it to Nilbog to find ways to attack me in a non-political thread where we are in 100% agreement on the topic.



The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Wednesday, January 6, 2021 10:48 AM

THG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I don't think



A-yep.






Wow. So witty.





A-yep.

T



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Wednesday, January 6, 2021 1:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Enjoy your time getting along with Nilbog now, NeoCon Ted.

You've got about two weeks left.



The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Wednesday, January 6, 2021 11:03 PM

BYTEMITE


You all know how much I liked Inara, so that would really be a shame. In a lot ways she, Simon, Kaylee, and Book were the heart of the crew - pushing people (Mal) to not fall to their darker and more base nature.

That said, she didn't look like a companion anymore in the last comic I read. Though whether those comics were "good" exactly is another story. Still, space pirates isn't a bad look - which is the only way I can think of that they could actually pull this off.

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Thursday, January 7, 2021 4:51 AM

WISHIMAY


Aaaay, it's Bytemite

Long time, chica. How'r yah?


I dunno how Disney would do Space Pirates. I mean, Sea Pirates...it's a bygone age thing.

How are they gonna make Space Pirates ...sparkle-y?? How are they gonna justify the rationality to the middle class momz??




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Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:01 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
You all know how much I liked Inara, so that would really be a shame. In a lot ways she, Simon, Kaylee, and Book were the heart of the crew - pushing people (Mal) to not fall to their darker and more base nature.

That said, she didn't look like a companion anymore in the last comic I read. Though whether those comics were "good" exactly is another story. Still, space pirates isn't a bad look - which is the only way I can think of that they could actually pull this off.



Hi Byte Shoutout to Frem and any other OGs you might still be in contact with.

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Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:31 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:

You all know how much I liked Inara, so that would really be a shame. In a lot ways she, Simon, Kaylee, and Book were the heart of the crew - pushing people (Mal) to not fall to their darker and more base nature.

That said, she didn't look like a companion anymore in the last comic I read. Though whether those comics were "good" exactly is another story. Still, space pirates isn't a bad look - which is the only way I can think of that they could actually pull this off.



Nice to hear from you. I guess we'll see.

T



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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 2:41 PM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
bump^

Kinda figured a few more ppl from the old days would drop by to talk about this.

Figures that they're finally doing this now that no one cares anymore *sigh*






I have been summoned....

I actually hadn't heard about the brand new verse comic but I think it is an excellent idea. There's a lot of room there to bring in a fresh new cast but allow original series cast members to make stops in. But I agree, Disney would most likely ruin it. I wish Whedon or Espenson would run with the idea to one of the 800 streaming services and make something worth while out of it.

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on the globe that gave me birth.
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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 3:42 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by DMI:
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
bump^

Kinda figured a few more ppl from the old days would drop by to talk about this.

Figures that they're finally doing this now that no one cares anymore *sigh*






I have been summoned....

I actually hadn't heard about the brand new verse comic but I think it is an excellent idea. There's a lot of room there to bring in a fresh new cast but allow original series cast members to make stops in. But I agree, Disney would most likely ruin it. I wish Whedon or Espenson would run with the idea to one of the 800 streaming services and make something worth while out of it.

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I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
and the cool, green hills of Earth.



Love the poem

T



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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 6:04 PM

WISHIMAY


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I have been summoned....

I actually hadn't heard about the brand new verse comic but I think it is an excellent idea. There's a lot of room there to bring in a fresh new cast but allow original series cast members to make stops in. But I agree, Disney would most likely ruin it. I wish Whedon or Espenson would run with the idea to one of the 800 streaming services and make something worth while out of it.




I'd like to hope that there is someone at Disney that actually liked the series and wants to do right by it, but I have a feeling it's just content that comes with a pre-cut fan base to them.




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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 7:00 PM

THG


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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by DMI:

I have been summoned....

I actually hadn't heard about the brand new verse comic but I think it is an excellent idea. There's a lot of room there to bring in a fresh new cast but allow original series cast members to make stops in. But I agree, Disney would most likely ruin it. I wish Whedon or Espenson would run with the idea to one of the 800 streaming services and make something worth while out of it.




I'd like to hope that there is someone at Disney that actually liked the series and wants to do right by it, but I have a feeling it's just content that comes with a pre-cut fan base to them.






Then the jokes on them because there is no such thing as a pre-cut browncoat.

T



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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 7:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm sure everybody that loved the new Star Wars will love the new Firefly.


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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:16 PM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by DMI:
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I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
and the cool, green hills of Earth.



Love the poem

T





:-D It's from Heinlein's short story "The Green Hills of Earth."

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I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
and the cool, green hills of Earth.

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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:20 PM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.


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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

I'd like to hope that there is someone at Disney that actually liked the series and wants to do right by it, but I have a feeling it's just content that comes with a pre-cut fan base to them.




Exactly. JJ Abrams said he'd never been a fan of Star Trek or even really seen it before he went about tearing its soul out to make a pointless action movie. And he did the same thing to Star Wars for Disney.

They think we'll be grateful for any new content and hope that some Browncoats don't have Disney+ yet and will fork over their money.

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I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
and the cool, green hills of Earth.

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Thursday, January 14, 2021 7:53 AM

CALHOUN


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Name a single reboot that was good in the last few decades. I'm sure there is one out there, but I can't think of one.



BSG, but i take your point.

I'm thinkin if it aint a continuation of the original show with the original cast and Whedon at the helm i'm probably not gunnalike it.

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