The GunSlinger by piratejenny

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The GunSlinger

POSTED BY: PIRATEJENNY
UPDATED: Saturday, January 29, 2005 04:03
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Thursday, January 27, 2005 4:50 PM

I've started on Stephen Kings Dark Tower book series I'm on Book two the Wastelands

so far the books are pretty good..its Stephen King so thats a given but the reason why I bring it up is because it sort of reminds me of Firefly

in that its a western, the gunslinger Roland being the centural charactor, but its set in a diffrent world sort of like a paralle universe..in that the world is modern but its also western its sort of mixed up ..actually the Dark Tower books are sort of like the Lord of the rings Firefly...and who knows what else

so far their are 4 charactors like I said Roland the gunslinger is on a Quest to find the Dark Tower..although he really doesn't know what it is , apparently the dark Tower is what keeps the worlds including our world earth from being destroyed or moving on..but Roland is also after the man in black..he's sort of an evil magican

then their is the boy Jake , who died and came into Rolands world..he was pushed by the man in Black...then their is the Odetta..and Eddie Dean

like I said I'm only on book 2 but its really very good

anyone who likes Firefly might want to try this books out if they haven't already!!!

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Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:00 PM

MALICIOUS

Hi PirateJenny!

Uhh, I THINK you are on book 3 there. Book 1 is "The Gunslinger" book 2 is "The Drawing of the Three" where he "draws" Eddie, Susanna/Detta/Odetta and Jack Mort into his world. You NEED to read that, it is probably the best one. Wow, I've been reading SK since I was 12 (am now 41) and I was so afraid he would never finish the Dark Tower books. Every time a new one came out, I would re-read the ones prior. I have all his books--in hard back. Most are first editions. My favorites are The Stand (either version), The Shining and 'Salem's Lot. Enjoy!!

Mal-licious

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Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:29 PM

STARPILOTGRAINGER

I'm also a big (although relatively recent) Dark Tower fan. I'm in the middle of Wizard and Glass, and have Wolves of the Calla awaiting me on the shelf.

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Friday, January 28, 2005 1:52 AM

TUDYKSGAGREEL

I loved the dark tower books, read them all, my fav was wizard and glass but the last book the dark tower was great too

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Friday, January 28, 2005 11:46 PM

PIRATEJENNY

I know the gunslinger is the 1st book actually I read that one some years back and recently just started up again I just finished wastelands, I'm addicted I've got to see what happens next I even looked up the Robert Browning poem that inspired SK to write the book to see if i could get some insight into whats going to happen at the Dark Tower

Robert Browning (1812-1889)

"Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came"

(See Edgar's song in Shakespeare's King Lear.)

1My first thought was, he lied in every word,
2 That hoary cripple, with malicious eye
3 Askance to watch the working of his lie
4On mine, and mouth scarce able to afford
5Suppression of the glee that pursed and scored
6 Its edge, at one more victim gained thereby.

7What else should he be set for, with his staff?
8 What, save to waylay with his lies, ensnare
9 All travellers who might find him posted there,
10And ask the road? I guessed what skull-like laugh
11Would break, what crutch 'gin write my epitaph
12 For pastime in the dusty thoroughfare,

13If at his counsel I should turn aside
14 Into that ominous tract which, all agree,
15 Hides the Dark Tower. Yet acquiescingly
16I did turn as he pointed: neither pride
17Nor hope rekindling at the end descried,
18 So much as gladness that some end might be.

19For, what with my whole world-wide wandering,
20 What with my search drawn out thro' years, my hope
21 Dwindled into a ghost not fit to cope
22With that obstreperous joy success would bring,
23I hardly tried now to rebuke the spring
24 My heart made, finding failure in its scope.

25As when a sick man very near to death
26 Seems dead indeed, and feels begin and end
27 The tears and takes the farewell of each friend,
28And hears one bid the other go, draw breath
29Freelier outside ("since all is o'er," he saith,
30 "And the blow fallen no grieving can amend";)

31While some discuss if near the other graves
32 Be room enough for this, and when a day
33 Suits best for carrying the corpse away,
34With care about the banners, scarves and staves:
35And still the man hears all, and only craves
36 He may not shame such tender love and stay.

37Thus, I had so long suffered in this quest,
38 Heard failure prophesied so oft, been writ
39 So many times among "The Band"--to wit,
40The knights who to the Dark Tower's search addressed
41Their steps--that just to fail as they, seemed best,
42 And all the doubt was now--should I be fit?

43So, quiet as despair, I turned from him,
44 That hateful cripple, out of his highway
45 Into the path he pointed. All the day
46Had been a dreary one at best, and dim
47Was settling to its close, yet shot one grim
48 Red leer to see the plain catch its estray.

49For mark! no sooner was I fairly found
50 Pledged to the plain, after a pace or two,
51 Than, pausing to throw backward a last view
52O'er the safe road, 'twas gone; grey plain all round:
53Nothing but plain to the horizon's bound.
54 I might go on; nought else remained to do.

55So, on I went. I think I never saw
56 Such starved ignoble nature; nothing throve:
57 For flowers--as well expect a cedar grove!
58But cockle, spurge, according to their law
59Might propagate their kind, with none to awe,
60 You'd think; a burr had been a treasure-trove.

61No! penury, inertness and grimace,
62 In some strange sort, were the land's portion. "See
63 Or shut your eyes," said Nature peevishly,
64"It nothing skills: I cannot help my case:
65'Tis the Last Judgment's fire must cure this place,
66 Calcine its clods and set my prisoners free."

67If there pushed any ragged thistle-stalk
68 Above its mates, the head was chopped; the bents
69 Were jealous else. What made those holes and rents
70In the dock's harsh swarth leaves, bruised as to baulk
71All hope of greenness? 'tis a brute must walk
72 Pashing their life out, with a brute's intents.

73As for the grass, it grew as scant as hair
74 In leprosy; thin dry blades pricked the mud
75 Which underneath looked kneaded up with blood.
76One stiff blind horse, his every bone a-stare,
77Stood stupefied, however he came there:
78 Thrust out past service from the devil's stud!

79Alive? he might be dead for aught I know,
80 With that red gaunt and colloped neck a-strain,
81 And shut eyes underneath the rusty mane;
82Seldom went such grotesqueness with such woe;
83I never saw a brute I hated so;
84 He must be wicked to deserve such pain.

85I shut my eyes and turned them on my heart.
86 As a man calls for wine before he fights,
87 I asked one draught of earlier, happier sights,
88Ere fitly I could hope to play my part.
89Think first, fight afterwards--the soldier's art:
90 One taste of the old time sets all to rights.

91Not it! I fancied Cuthbert's reddening face
92 Beneath its garniture of curly gold,
93 Dear fellow, till I almost felt him fold
94An arm in mine to fix me to the place
95That way he used. Alas, one night's disgrace!
96 Out went my heart's new fire and left it cold.

97Giles then, the soul of honour--there he stands
98 Frank as ten years ago when knighted first.
99 What honest men should dare (he said) he durst.
100Good--but the scene shifts--faugh! what hangman hands
101In to his breast a parchment? His own bands
102 Read it. Poor traitor, spit upon and curst!

103Better this present than a past like that;
104 Back therefore to my darkening path again!
105 No sound, no sight as far as eye could strain.
106Will the night send a howlet or a bat?
107I asked: when something on the dismal flat
108 Came to arrest my thoughts and change their train.

109A sudden little river crossed my path
110 As unexpected as a serpent comes.
111 No sluggish tide congenial to the glooms;
112This, as it frothed by, might have been a bath
113For the fiend's glowing hoof--to see the wrath
114 Of its black eddy bespate with flakes and spumes.

115So petty yet so spiteful! All along
116 Low scrubby alders kneeled down over it;
117 Drenched willows flung them headlong in a fit
118Of mute despair, a suicidal throng:
119The river which had done them all the wrong,
120 Whate'er that was, rolled by, deterred no whit.

121Which, while I forded,--good saints, how I feared
122 To set my foot upon a dead man's cheek,
123 Each step, or feel the spear I thrust to seek
124For hollows, tangled in his hair or beard!
125--It may have been a water-rat I speared,
126 But, ugh! it sounded like a baby's shriek.

127Glad was I when I reached the other bank.
128 Now for a better country. Vain presage!
129 Who were the strugglers, what war did they wage,
130Whose savage trample thus could pad the dank
131Soil to a plash? Toads in a poisoned tank,
132 Or wild cats in a red-hot iron cage--

133The fight must so have seemed in that fell cirque.
134 What penned them there, with all the plain to choose?
135 No foot-print leading to that horrid mews,
136None out of it. Mad brewage set to work
137Their brains, no doubt, like galley-slaves the Turk
138 Pits for his pastime, Christians against Jews.

139And more than that--a furlong on--why, there!
140 What bad use was that engine for, that wheel,
141 Or brake, not wheel--that harrow fit to reel
142Men's bodies out like silk? with all the air
143Of Tophet's tool, on earth left unaware,
144 Or brought to sharpen its rusty teeth of steel.

145Then came a bit of stubbed ground, once a wood,
146 Next a marsh, it would seem, and now mere earth
147 Desperate and done with; (so a fool finds mirth,
148Makes a thing and then mars it, till his mood
149Changes and off he goes!) within a rood--
150 Bog, clay and rubble, sand and stark black dearth.

151Now blotches rankling, coloured gay and grim,
152 Now patches where some leanness of the soil's
153 Broke into moss or substances like boils;
154Then came some palsied oak, a cleft in him
155Like a distorted mouth that splits its rim
156 Gaping at death, and dies while it recoils.

157And just as far as ever from the end!
158 Nought in the distance but the evening, nought
159 To point my footstep further! At the thought,
160A great black bird, Apollyon's bosom-friend,
161Sailed past, nor beat his wide wing dragon-penned
162 That brushed my cap--perchance the guide I sought.

163For, looking up, aware I somehow grew,
164 'Spite of the dusk, the plain had given place
165 All round to mountains--with such name to grace
166Mere ugly heights and heaps now stolen in view.
167How thus they had surprised me,--solve it, you!
168 How to get from them was no clearer case.

169Yet half I seemed to recognise some trick
170 Of mischief happened to me, God knows when--
171 In a bad dream perhaps. Here ended, then,
172Progress this way. When, in the very nick
173Of giving up, one time more, came a click
174 As when a trap shuts--you're inside the den!

175Burningly it came on me all at once,
176 This was the place! those two hills on the right,
177 Crouched like two bulls locked horn in horn in fight;
178While to the left, a tall scalped mountain . . . Dunce,
179Dotard, a-dozing at the very nonce,
180 After a life spent training for the sight!

181What in the midst lay but the Tower itself?
182 The round squat turret, blind as the fool's heart
183 Built of brown stone, without a counterpart
184In the whole world. The tempest's mocking elf
185Points to the shipman thus the unseen shelf
186 He strikes on, only when the timbers start.

187Not see? because of night perhaps?--why, day
188 Came back again for that! before it left,
189 The dying sunset kindled through a cleft:
190The hills, like giants at a hunting, lay
191Chin upon hand, to see the game at bay,--
192 "Now stab and end the creature--to the heft!"

193Not hear? when noise was everywhere! it tolled
194 Increasing like a bell. Names in my ears
195 Of all the lost adventurers my peers,--
196How such a one was strong, and such was bold,
197And such was fortunate, yet each of old
198 Lost, lost! one moment knelled the woe of years.

199There they stood, ranged along the hillsides, met
200 To view the last of me, a living frame
201 For one more picture! in a sheet of flame
202I saw them and I knew them all. And yet
203Dauntless the slug-horn to my lips I set,
204 And blew. "Childe Roland to the Dark Tower came

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Friday, January 28, 2005 11:49 PM

PIRATEJENNY

I'm dying to know whats going to happen although at the same time I don't really know whats going to happen I keep thinking someone is going to die cause its Stephen King..and keep hoping its not Roland and then Jake..and Susanna or Eddie or even Oy..but then thats like everybody..so I'm on pins and needles and feeling anxious all the while !!!

I'm probably way off..but childe Roland to the Dark Tower came..the only child on the Quest is Jake...I can't help but think that Jake is the key to the Dark Tower!!

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Saturday, January 29, 2005 4:03 AM

MALICIOUS

Okaaay, but did you read the ACTUAL second book? "The Drawing of the Three" ??? Like I said, if you just read "The Gunslinger" and then "The Wastelands" you missed one.

Mal-licious

Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell

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