So they cancelled this show because... by cmagoun

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So they cancelled this show because...

POSTED BY: CMAGOUN
UPDATED: Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:06
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Friday, February 18, 2005 6:51 PM

... it was brilliant?

I just checked out the first couple episodes on DVD. Why is this not still on the air? Makes no sense whatsoever.

Oh well, onto the rest of the episodes,

Chris Magoun
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Friday, February 18, 2005 6:56 PM

JADEHAND

Yeah our thoughts exactly.

Welcome aboard. Enjoy. let us know what you think of the others.

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Friday, February 18, 2005 7:20 PM

SAMWIBATT

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Originally posted by cmagoun:
because ... it was brilliant?

Close: because it was anti-anti-brilliant. There's a subtle but crucial distinction there. That is, not only is it terrific TV, as you rightly point out, but there's the corollary: Good TV, with strong fan support puts the lie to the idea that people only want Bad TV, and Fox was/is totally committed to that idea.

Welcome!

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Friday, February 18, 2005 8:10 PM

NYWOE

Sigh. I wish people would stop confirming that Fox was stupid for cancelling Firefly. It's easier to think that I'm just crazy...

And welcome!

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Friday, February 18, 2005 9:16 PM

CALHOUN

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cmagoun wrote:
Friday, February 18, 2005 18:51

I just checked out the first couple episodes on DVD

You been in a coma pal?

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 3:28 AM

CMAGOUN

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
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cmagoun wrote:
Friday, February 18, 2005 18:51

I just checked out the first couple episodes on DVD

You been in a coma pal?

Heh... I suppose. I just don't watch much TV or catch many movies. A friend of mine loaned me the DVDs and told me I would really like them. So logically, they sat on a shelf for a year or so :)

Good Stuff Though,

Chris Magoun
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Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:59 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Firefly didn't fit into F*X's long term plans, which included wall to wall 'Reality' shows, where viewers would be asked to check their brains at the door. So, because Firefly was brilliant, it clashed w/ the rest of their line up. (Same goes for John Doe, but that's for another thread )

I think basically that the suits at F*X wanted more of a campy, not too complicated type of script that was easy for the veiwers to follow along and not feel completely lost even if they missed an episode or 2. It appears that F*X wanted The Dukes of Hazzard , but in outter space. You know, for the 21st century, and all that.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:08 AM

MYNAMEISJONAS

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So they cancelled this show because

Low ratings, its really not that hard to understand.

and before you start with the fox didn't give it a chance, friday deathslot, its to good for them.

The very first episode got terrible ratings and as ratings only ever go down as the season goes on, it was no suprise they stopped it mid season.

They are a business not your personel jester.

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:38 AM

SAMWIBATT

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Originally posted by MynameisJonas:
ratings only ever go down as the season goes on, it was no suprise they stopped it mid season.

They are a business not your personel jester.

Tell 'em! Ratings have never improved for any show ever, as Arrested Development, Cheers, Seinfeld, The X-Files, and Star Trek plainly prove. Where would we be if anyone had given those shows a chance? Sheesh. And where on earth did you get the idea that ratings would be better than on a Friday night slot?

One quibble: They're not called personnel jesters any more, they're human resources jesters.

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:55 AM

TETHYS

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Originally posted by MynameisJonas:
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So they cancelled this show because

Low ratings, its really not that hard to understand.

and before you start with the fox didn't give it a chance, friday deathslot, its to good for them.

The very first episode got terrible ratings and as ratings only ever go down as the season goes on, it was no suprise they stopped it mid season.

They are a business not your personel jester.

FIE!! Get thee back under thy bridge!

"Your mouth is talking. Might wanna look to that"
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Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:07 AM

SAMWIBATT

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Originally posted by tethys:
FIE!! Get thee back under thy bridge!

Are you implying that Mynameisjonas is a TROLL? Now that you mention it, I bet you're right! :)

I'm getting tired of the "Fox is a business" rejoinder the trolls haul out here. If Fox is a business, it should act like one. Real businesses, when they have a product to sell, put some effort into advertising it and making sure it's (predictably) accessible to the people they're selling it to. They realize that it will take some time to recover their investment, and they pay attention to customer comments about it.

And in the end, real businesses make progress. Fox has lost 600,000 primetime viewers through their programming decisions.

So I think they're acting more like a jester than a business. QED.

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:45 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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They are a business not your personel jester.

Oh, but they ARE my personal jester. As a customer ( viewer) I decide on whether to buy ( watch )FOX TV or not. I choose not to. Just because McDonalds serves more people than a finer restaurant, doesn't make it 'better'.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 10:24 AM

CMAGOUN

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Originally posted by MynameisJonas:
Low ratings, its really not that hard to understand.

and before you start with the fox didn't give it a chance, friday deathslot, its to good for them.

The very first episode got terrible ratings and as ratings only ever go down as the season goes on, it was no suprise they stopped it mid season.

They are a business not your personel jester.

Wow, thanks for clarifying that for me! I appreciate the dose of fair and balanced business logic.

To clarify my question: The product was obviously one of quality. Why couldn't these business-saavy TV executives figure out a way to market and develop it into a money-making series? Why not run the shows in order, for instance?

Regardless MynameisJonas, that was way too much vitriol for a post that was essentially a "hello" to the board.

Whatever,

Chris Magoun
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Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:06 AM

SAMWIBATT

Hey Cmagoun, nicely said re: vitriol at your hello.

Jonas there is himself incompetent at goodbyes: check the "Zoid appreciation thread" from two months ago in which our little goober posts:

Quote:
pps. you guys are boring,i'm leaving forever

If only it were true. He could be "whatching" something on Fox right now instead of baiting us to get that sweet, sweet attention.

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