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Great Songs That Couldn't Be Made Today

POSTED BY: 6IXSTRINGJACK
UPDATED: Friday, May 15, 2026 14:26
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Thursday, May 14, 2026 9:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I heard this song back from my high school days on the radio today. I never really cared for it much back then, but I suppose something about aging 30 years makes you give things you passed by in your youth a 2nd chance whenever they cross your path.




I know why I didn't like it when I was a kid, and I'm kind of glad that I've grown to appreciate it as an adult. It's just so good.



But look at the lyrics...

And then think about everything in the news and the media over the last 6 years or so, and tell me that a 26 year old Lisa Loeb today wouldn't be destroyed on Twitter for putting a song like this out.



I'm sure I'll think of more to add here, or just bump into them randomly as I did with this one.

Feel free to add any of your own here.

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Thursday, May 14, 2026 11:34 PM

BRENDA


That's a great song SIX.

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Friday, May 15, 2026 2:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


On this fact, there will be no disagreement.

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Friday, May 15, 2026 3:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


This song always hit hard for me from the first time I'd heard it...




I don't consider this to be a song that couldn't be made today, but I believe in the 3rd verse Anna was singing about what The Internet would do to Lisa Loeb for releasing that song today when she sings the words "2AM and I'm still awake writing a song, if I get it all down on paper it's no longer inside of me, threatening the life it belongs to. And I feel like I'm naked in front of a crowd, because these words are my diary screaming out loud, and I know that you'll use them, however you want to.


Anna may have been the first artist to sing about it, possibly not even realizing that if she were to have been born just several years earlier she would have a much different memory of what life as a teenager and young adult was before the internet became central to everyone's lives.



Even if it wasn't the Feminists relentlessly bashing the song and Lisa herself for being weak and staying in a relationship that clearly has problems and the whole thing being a bad role model for girls, she'd probably have a bunch of people making fun of her on Twitter for it. For staying in what appears to be a pretty solid relationship that didn't magically fix all of her problems that she's very aware of and struggling with. And it should be noted that she didn't let him entirely off the hook either. It's a one-sided story and we don't know if we have a reliable narrator, but with the amount of self-depreciation on display here, I think it's more than fair to accept that her beau was not Mr. Perfect himself.


I think this song would be attacked for weakness today. That she didn't just stand up and walk out on that guy. But that would be completely missing the point. I think it's a song about strength. Weathering the bad times and navigating through all the emotions while keeping focused on the fact that ultimately the relationship brings you more than it takes away from you... or, at very least, achieves equilibrium.

It's easy to quit and walk away. It's hard to put in the work to keep something worth keeping. But what nobody tells you is that it's even harder being alone and looking back and wondering what things would have been like had you made a different choice. If you fought for something worth fighting for instead of always taking the easy way out. That you might just wake up one day realizing that not only isn't there anything left worth fighting for, but that the days where those opportunities just seemed to fall into your lap don't come around all too often anymore either.

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Friday, May 15, 2026 5:23 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


maybe you are starting to hear something I already noticed many many years ago

Culture seems dead now
X-Factor America's Got Talent ruined the show

maybe some Spanish Disco Nightclub music or Rap or sad romantic song or something about drugs would make it today...the skill of playing rock and pop is gone


but Common, the so-so, mediocre vocalists with massive egos and their backing track perhaps also destroyed the old tradition of music making...and the record company and editors and audio engineers and magazines and social media promoters and mixers and producers told the singing artist with a big ego that 'this is the correct way'


I believe the solo guitarist also helped kill it, you know you get one of those head up their own asshole, the USA or Canada or British singer-songwriter and musician...some of them with holier than thou attitudes and start talking religion and political garbage and suddenly they replace all their band members with a keyboard backing track, a drum machine, a fake plastic bass but they still got their 'hit' and their money


the old way bands did it?


"Bohemian Rhapsody"
Length almost 6 mins


Any song 4 mins long could not be made today

also most 'Bands' would not exist today, people do not listen to a band, they follow a DJ for example...not that electronic music can not be done well, it can be great but it is mostly done bad.

if you look at soundclouds, youtubes, the tiktoks, spotify hits its mostly solo artists
I cant really name any I could guess maybe try but I dont liosten to modern pop or whatever the radio is I could guess Drake, Kate Perry, Rihanna, Justin Bieber, maybe Michael Jackon is back in the chart with that movie?...Rick Beato listens to the Top-10 so I dont have to
Are bands dead?
You will still find 'bands' out there listen to in the Top100, Beatles, Linkin Park, Queen etc but these guys are nostalgia listeners with band members dead

I think ColdPlay still sells, however that's kind of unusual as most 'bands' will not sell as they used to

People want to watch this Karaoke X-Factor America's Got Talent type of singing music with backing tracks

The audience want the words and voice next Freddy Mercury or next Rapper or next Donna Summer, Dolly Patron, Whitney Houston, they want words and a beat Vanilla_Ice
Vanilla Ice, they Barbra Streisand but not the art of mixing and instruments behind it
that's just nice background noise they dont really understand
the audience can now as AI to give them beats and chords without learning anything of music theory a Chatbot can deliver a backing track.
The audience wants a stage and words it wants a vocal show on the social media but it doesnt want the actual band that helped glue all that melody and rhythm and harmony together

Music in this world has changed, does the audience and consumer know whats different?
The audience is missing something but does not know what sound it is missing, the audience doesnt watch bands playing off each other like they used to
the bass players Flea Red Hot Chili Peppers, uncredited session musicians like Carol Kaye who would inspire groovy jams in studio, Leland Sklar, Jack Bruce, Sting, John Wetton, Tina Weymouth, John McVie, Louis Johnson, Geddy Lee, Bootsy Collins, James Jamerson, Paul McCartney, Geddy Lee, Phil Lesh, Jack Cassidy, Tony Levin, John Paul Jones, George Porter Jr, David Hood, Jaco Pastorius, the drummers Roger Taylor from Queen, Neil Peart, John Bonham, Taylor Hawkins, Stewart Copeland, Bill Bruford, Mick Fleetwood, Phil Rudd, Mike Portnoy, Steve Smith, Jimmy Chamberlin, Michael Shrieve, Steve Jordan, Tito Puente, Clyde Stubblefield, Shela E, Jeff Porcaro, Terry Bozzio, Phil Collins, Vinnie Colaiuta, Ian Paice, Steve Gadd and the guitarists Ritchie Blackmore, Prince, David Gilmour, Jimi Hendrix, Brian May, Clapton, Jimmy Page, John McLaughlin, Mark Knopfler, Joe Perry, Frank Zappa, James Hetfield, Pat Metheny, Joe Walsh, Angus Young, Malcolm Young, John Petrucci, Carlos Santana, Jeff Beck...some of the great backing from other instrumentalists Keyboards etc
Not all skilled 'Rock' guys got big mainstream hits, Dream Theatre was maybe too busy or complex for people but Jordan Rudess was awarded "Best Keyboard Player" many times.
Most who listened to Rush were listeners of music and I would think 'Tool' are very skilled musicians but they have their own small cult following never really 'made it' into the Top10 of anything mainstream.
Some people are skill with instruments but also just not loved by the public, I know some who think Joe Satriani is too much of a show man or a wanker or something annoying but he has great talent.

Music the group and the band is also strange chemistry, some people can have amazing individual talent but for some reason the band might never 'glue' and mix well together you cant just randomly replace band members and expect it all do groove the very same way.

People's ears have changed and the way they consume music and entertainment has changed.

I think some parts of the world maybe some skilled Guitarist, Drummer, Bass player could make it as a 'New Band' I think in some parts of the world they still look for new talents, the record labels are somewhat 'indie' like real labels used to be independent and in some parts of the world and towns and some cities people still have money to spend on gigs and they are still into their Rock Metal Classic Rock sound in some parts of Europe or Asia maybe Japan and some parts of the Latin world are still into that Spanish guitar virtuoso sound

I would like to think a group that had talent like The Beatles or American rock band Kansas or Led Zeppelin or Creedence Clearwater Revival or 'James Brown' or Fleetwood Mac or 'Prince' would make it today but I'm not sure


Songs dont become radio hits like the used to the Aussie and British wave is over. I think the days of Italy being cool and hip or Germany or Japan or French are over, no more Kyu Sakamoto, “Sukiyaki” no more Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu and no more Red Balloons the Cold War song 99 Luftballons

Korea suddenly became 'cool' and South Korean pop can go viral fast


maybe some Spanish Mexio folk song like "La Bamba" could go into a movie and go viral , or something like Hey Macarena Dance or Las Ketchup Asereje could be made into a hit


Silly Rap and silly Pop sells, most of the tradition in old music the old fashioned creativity in making songs with bands is gone

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Friday, May 15, 2026 5:35 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Django Reinhardt he was in an actual band and played with only two fingers, his hand was damaged when he was a kid left hand fingers were badly burned. Nobody listens to this set up today with Violin and a big old Double Bass.



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Friday, May 15, 2026 2:19 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Come In From The Cold


Joni Mitchell

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Friday, May 15, 2026 2:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I was going to say that you missed the point, Jaynez, but then I realized that you're coming at it from the same space that Beato does when he talks about how basic and simple most music is today. Or those videos that explain the phenomena by comparing music today to that of the 60's and the devolution that occurred in between then and now.

I'm talking about the lyrics themselves, and the fact that Lisa Loeb would be tortured online for putting Stay out in 2026.


I don't want to make this just another "Music" thread since we already have 4 of them.

You're making this just another Music thread.

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Friday, May 15, 2026 2:20 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


a world before 911 attacks....25 years ago

'Tool'


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Friday, May 15, 2026 2:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I was going to say that you missed the point, Jaynez, but then I realized that you're coming at it from the same space that Beato does when he talks about how basic and simple most music is today. Or those videos that explain the phenomena by comparing music today to that of the 60's and the devolution that occurred in between then and now.

I'm talking about the lyrics themselves, and the fact that Lisa Loeb would be tortured online for putting Stay out in 2026.


I don't want to make this just another "Music" thread since we already have 4 of them.

You're making this just another Music thread.

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Here... let me give you another example. This one is directly on the nose, so nobody should be confused about what the point of the thread was...




NOTE: This song doesn't fit the thread either because, though it's worth a chuckle, it's objectively not a great song.

And I had to post a link to a re-upload because the channel where the guy was playing and singing songs from the late 1800's and early 1900's was banned. Just kind of proving my point here.

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