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Looking for the best fan vid ever

POSTED BY: MORBID
UPDATED: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:29
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Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:18 PM

Has anyone seen the fanvid to Godsmacks serenity, I downloaded it from somewhere not long ago but i had to format my drive and lost it. Its the best Firefly video I've ever seen, i don't know who made it but it had some sort of blue sun logo in the begining. Thanks in advance if you can help

Pi R Squared?! No!!! Pie R Round! Cornbread R Square.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:40 PM

RAT

I'v got it, but I'm not sure where I got it. The eMail given at the end is: Pangaea_Films@Verizon.net

Hope you find it!

-Ratboy

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Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:48 PM

SHINY

Try here:

http://homepage.mac.com/rocketplane/FileSharing8.html

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:50 PM

RIVERGIRL

http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/destinys_harbor/Christinaframes.html

browncoat anthem is shiny

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:00 PM

MORBID

Quote:
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/destinys_harbor/Christinaframes.html

No thats not the one I wanted, the post above you has got it.

http://homepage.mac.com/rocketplane/FileSharing8.html

trust me the videos on that site take a back seat to this one, you should give it a download.

Pi R Squared?! No!!! Pie R Round! Cornbread R Square.

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Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:57 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

fanvids at DragonCon ? - If there's a thread on that, I missed it. I'm sure this has to have been brought up. For those who've not made DragonCon before, they run their own little in house t.v. gig between panels and I'm guessing in the hotel rooms. What progress has been made to get a few ( at least one ) fanvids shown at DragonCon? Even if it's just in the big convention rooms prior to the panels, that would so pump up the crowd!

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:28 AM

IMEARLY

Quote:
Its the best Firefly video I've ever seen

First of all, thank you for your compliments.

yes, this is the link:

http://homepage.mac.com/rocketplane/FileSharing8.html

Most likely you downloaded my video when I first introduced it and was distributing it on YouSendIt.

Quote:
What progress has been made to get a few ( at least one ) fanvids shown at DragonCon?

I know very little about these conventions, however I am currently working on a video that will be displayed at I-con in New York.

Sadly I live in Florida.

My Serenty video is already to be one of those seen. I think that the makers of Fanvids should get together online and discuss this for themselves.

Any Fan Video makers reading this be sure to send me an E-mail: Pangaea_Films@Verizon.net

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:51 AM

MORBID

Serenity rocks man, you did a great job, so whats the new video about, when do you think you will be done?

Pi R Squared?! No!!! Pie R Round! Cornbread R Square.

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Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:04 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:

ImEarly wrote:
Wednesday, March 16, 2005 07:28

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

ImEarly...I fired off an e-mail to the folks at DragonCon, just for the hell of it. I didn't recommend any particular fanvid at this time, cause I didn't want them thinking I was just trying to pitch my own (or a friend's) work on them. Having gone to a grand total of 1 DragonCon, I'm still a novice in the way of..well, anything connected to such things.

I am just so floored at the quality of the vids I've seen, I'd be willing to pay a pretty penny if someone would put those down on say...a DVD ? There, I said it..now may the wheels of capitalism start spinning! (crosses fingers )

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:22 PM

RAT

Quote:
Originally posted by ImEarly:
Sadly I live in Florida.

Where in Florida?

-Ratboy

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Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:15 PM

IMEARLY

Tampa, my good friend.

I trust you are a resident of the Sunshine state.

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:19 PM

IMEARLY

Quote:
ImEarly...I fired off an e-mail to the folks at DragonCon, just for the hell of it. I didn't recommend any particular fanvid at this time, cause I didn't want them thinking I was just trying to pitch my own (or a friend's) work on them. Having gone to a grand total of 1 DragonCon, I'm still a novice in the way of..well, anything connected to such things.

I’m afraid you have me at a disadvantage, I have never been to any Conventions, and I know nothing about DragonCon, I was contacted by an event coordinator who will be at I-Con in Long Island, New York. I couldn’t tell you if there will be Fan Vids at other Conventions, but let me know if they will be accepting entries?

I do however believe that most videos out there need to be reevaluated. Most come from low quality versions of our favorite show. When these videos are compressed even further, their quality is degraded so badly it makes me sad.

I have made, several AMV’s and Serenity, I am working on a second video for Firefly now, but I will tell you this.

If you are going to make a Video of any fashion...

USE VOBS!!!

That’s DVD Folks.

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:40 PM

RAT

Quote:
Originally posted by ImEarly:
Tampa, my good friend.
I trust you are a resident of the Sunshine state.

You trust correctly! I'm right down the road in Plant City.

-Ratboy

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Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:53 AM

LOCHRAVIN

Rivergirl:
This site was incredible! I just discovered "Firefly" this weekend and am amazed at how much other fans have created.

Thanks for the heads up!

Mike

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Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:57 AM

LOCHRAVIN

Quote:

I do however believe that most videos out there need to be reevaluated. Most come from low quality versions of our favorite show. When these videos are compressed even further, their quality is degraded so badly it makes me sad.
(cut)
If you are going to make a Video of any fashion...

USE VOBS!!!
That’s DVD Folks.

Hi!
I would really be interested in learning how to make videos. I'm sooo impressed with what others have done. However, I know next to nothing about it. Is VOBS a software program to burn DVDs? Also, are most people burning their original DVDs onto their hard drives and then cutting clips from them? Any advice would be really appreciated! It'd give me something to do here in Korea

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Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:12 AM

LOCHRAVIN

Trying to figure out the signature block...pardon the new guy.

Mike

Well maybe I'm not a fancy gentleman like you, with your...very fine hat. But I do business...we're here for business.

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Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:03 AM

IMEARLY

It's nice to see that there is more then one Floridian Fan here.

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:08 AM

IMEARLY

Quote:
Is VOBS a software program to burn DVDs?

no, no, no....

Vob, is DVD, these are the files that are hidden within your disk(s)

Quote:
are most people burning their original DVDs onto their hard drives and then cutting clips from them?

Sadly no, most people are using rips that they downloaded from the internet to make their videos.

If you plan to make Fan Vid's I suggest you rip the DVD's you own to your HD and then get started. Mine is an example of this. It's bigger then most you'll find, but it is worth the quality.

If you haven’t Downloaded my Video then do so now, it is Called Serenity and is located here...

http://homepage.mac.com/rocketplane/FileSharing8.html

Making decent quality videos is an art and it takes some time to get there, try this link to get you started, it's for AMV's mind you, but it will get you started in the right direction...

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/videogetb.html

If this is too complicated, then feel free to E-mail me with any questions, my E-mail address is posted somewhere on this post, or you can grab it from the end of my Fan Vid.

Since this is a tutorial for AMV's I can also upload a few of my projects for you. Just say the word.

Also, what editing program will you use? I use Adobe Premiere 6.5 and Adobe Premiere Pro.
I also have experience with Photoshop, and After Effects. When I first started I used Movie Maker 2.0 which is freeware. If you are a Mac user I can point you in the right direction.

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:30 PM

ZAPHODB

Quote:
Sadly no, most people are using rips that they downloaded from the internet to make their videos.

If you plan to make Fan Vid's I suggest you rip the DVD's you own to your HD and then get started. Mine is an example of this. It's bigger then most you'll find, but it is worth the quality.

Using DVDs as source material for vids is fine, but you do have to remember that there are shows that are being vidded that aren't available on DVD just yet. TV rips are the only source for clips. When I started doing Firefly vids, those rips were the only way to go since the DVD set was not yet released. One of these days I'll go back and remaster the lot of them when I have the time.

Industrial Looniee & Madness - http://www3.telus.net/vchrusch

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Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:24 PM

EMBASSY

While there, don't forget to check out my videos too - especially "Falling for the First Time"

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Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:55 PM

ZAPHODB

I've really enjoyed the vids you've made. Great work!

Industrial Looniee & Madness - http://www3.telus.net/vchrusch

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Friday, March 18, 2005 3:43 AM

IMEARLY

Hi Embassy, long time no chat.

You working on any new projects?

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Shameless Friend plug comin....

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Be sure to check out Falling for the First Time.

An Embassy exclusive, located right here:

http://homepage.mac.com/rocketplane/FileSharing8.html

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Friday, March 18, 2005 3:46 AM

IMEARLY

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Using DVDs as source material for vids is fine, but you do have to remember that there are shows that are being vidded that aren't available on DVD just yet. TV rips are the only source for clips. When I started doing Firefly vids, those rips were the only way to go since the DVD set was not yet released. One of these days I'll go back and remaster the lot of them when I have the time.

Fair enough, you are accurate.

There are still a great many shows that are not available on DVD. I didn’t intend to sound condescending trust me, my first videos that were made on Movie Maker 2.0 were horrible, I mean dreadful. However I was using poor quality rips and I had no knowledge of Codec’s and compression ratios. Besides, I love a great deal of the fan vid’s that are available through FFF society.

And where the heck are your videos?

My collection must grow.

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Friday, March 18, 2005 9:05 AM

TETHYS

Quote:
Originally posted by ImEarly:
Quote:
Is VOBS a software program to burn DVDs?

no, no, no....

Vob, is DVD, these are the files that are hidden within your disk(s)

Quote:
are most people burning their original DVDs onto their hard drives and then cutting clips from them?

Sadly no, most people are using rips that they downloaded from the internet to make their videos.

If you plan to make Fan Vid's I suggest you rip the DVD's you own to your HD and then get started. Mine is an example of this. It's bigger then most you'll find, but it is worth the quality.

If you haven’t Downloaded my Video then do so now, it is Called Serenity and is located here...

http://homepage.mac.com/rocketplane/FileSharing8.html

Making decent quality videos is an art and it takes some time to get there, try this link to get you started, it's for AMV's mind you, but it will get you started in the right direction...

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/videogetb.html

If this is too complicated, then feel free to E-mail me with any questions, my E-mail address is posted somewhere on this post, or you can grab it from the end of my Fan Vid.

Since this is a tutorial for AMV's I can also upload a few of my projects for you. Just say the word.

Also, what editing program will you use? I use Adobe Premiere 6.5 and Adobe Premiere Pro.
I also have experience with Photoshop, and After Effects. When I first started I used Movie Maker 2.0 which is freeware. If you are a Mac user I can point you in the right direction.

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

Can you recommend a place to obtain after effects? I've been looking around and really can't find anything.....full copy, and all my design colleagues have other software than AE.

"Your mouth is talking. Might wanna look to that"
I am: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/bigcat.htm

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Friday, March 18, 2005 9:50 AM

ZAPHODB

Quote:
And where the heck are your videos?

*Points down to link in signature......*

You can alway try this link, dude.

That's where the hell they are.

Industrial Looniee & Madness - http://www3.telus.net/vchrusch

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Friday, March 18, 2005 1:07 PM

IMEARLY

Quote:
*Points down to link in signature......*

You can alway try this link, dude.

Now I feel like a fool… Thanx.

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Friday, March 18, 2005 1:09 PM

IMEARLY

Quote:
Can you recommend a place to obtain after effects? I've been looking around and really can't find anything.....full copy, and all my design colleagues have other software than AE.

I purchased After Effects 6.5, Adobe Premiere 6.5, Photoshop CS, Adobe Premiere Pro, and Microsoft Office System Professional 2003 for $105.00 at a local auction. I think everyone there wanted to buy watches. HA HA HA HA!!!!!

You can try download.com for demo downloads, if you are looking for a full version, you will have to go through Bittorrent, I don’t recommend Kazza, too many dummy files. If you are not familiar with Bittorrent, just try Altavista, (I hate Google). I would post some recommendations, but I don’t feel comfortable posting such things on this website.

<bgsound src=" <a href="http://www.geocities.com/thisbrownhouse/angusdei.mp3" target="_BLANK">http://www.geocities.com/thisbrownhouse/angusdei.mp3</a>" loop=1>

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Friday, March 18, 2005 6:54 PM

EMBASSY

The first step to making a good vid is storyboarding. Do a good job at step one and the whole project lays right down for you.

1: Take the song and play it in something with a timer. Make a detailed log of when each musical phrase begins and ends.

2. Imagine which shot from the series you want in each musical phrase. When I did "Falling" I ripped the entire series to my laptop.

3. Clip the shots you want to something compatible with your editing program. I use iMovie, so I exported small clips to DV format, then imported into iMovie.

4. Assemble your clips in an editor.

5. Apply transitions. In "Falling For the First Time" I used simple half-second dissolves. The transition time means that you have to allow for the fact that each clip eats an extra half second, so consider this in your planning.

6. Render. I used DiVX for portability, but some people inexplicably prefer WMV (Darn Microsoft poodles).

7. Distribute to all your friends. Bask in accolades or constructive criticism, as appropriate.

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Saturday, March 19, 2005 6:23 AM

IMEARLY

Concept

A video concept is a deceptively simple thing. The best way to describe it is as a vision. What you want the vided to be, how you want the viewer to feel, what you want them to think, to understand. In short, why you're making the video. This is hardly an exhaustive discussion, so what is possible goes far above and beyond what I make mention of. It should also be noted that sometimes a concept doesn't need to be stronger than a video and a song - not every video needs a strong concept. Attempting to strengthen a concept in a video that doesn't need it can kill the video. That said, when to apply the concept and when not to is a matter of taste for the editor. After all, the overall goal of any video is to communicate something, right?

STORYTELLING

The idea here is both very restricted and very open-ended, depending on what story you want to tell and how you want to tell it. Some videos retell the story, others tell entirely new stories. There's a large area in between, where the story is told but changed or a twist is added.

Synch

Synch is the core of the editing process itself. It is the connection between music and video. Without synch, you have video, and you have music, but no real connection between them.

MUSICAL

AKA Beat synch. This is where you cut, fade, use effects in time to the music. While sometimes simple to execute, this can get very complicated very rapidly. Many songs will have more than one musical line going at a time, and sounds of varying volume and tone. As an editor, you have to pick what you think is important, and synch to that. Sometimes the music itself presents a clear lead line to work with, but this is frequently not the case. What you show, how strongly you show it, and how you show it are all choices to be made.
Most videos make use of beat synch heavily. To ignore the music itself is considered extremely bad form, most of the time. Without extremely good reason, such as comedy, the video ending, etc., missing a significant change in the music is considered a major slip-up on the part of the editor.

LYRICAL

AKA Literal synch. In short, you match what is being said to what you show. There are varying degrees of lyrical synch. The connection between what is said and what is shown may be readily obvious, heavily symbolic, or nearly anywhere in between. One type that deserves special mention is the comedic association: an association made specifically to make fun of something or someone, or something absolutely ridiculous. The associations should be ones that the viewer can understand, though. If the associations are so strange or symbolic that the viewer can't understand them, then the editor has likely slipped up. Unless they're trying to make an incomprehensible video, that is.
A second type that deserves special mention is lip-synching. This is where a character (or characters) mouth movements are matched to the lyrics such that the character (or characters) appear to be singing or speaking. It is considered good form to lip synch entire lines at a time, with partial lip synch being somewhat looked down on.

Effects

There are two schools of thought on effects, one at either end of a broad spectrum. One school holds that effects should only be used to further the concept of the video. The other school holds that effects should be used just because they look cool. I’m going to refer to these as the meaningful camp and the appearance camp. Most people, it should be noted, are somewhere in between, using effects to further their musical sync.

MEANING (aka pretentious artiste)

The point of view here is somewhat more complicated that of the other camp. The idea is that effects should only be used in order to heighten the impact, strengthen the message, or somehow enhance the emotions felt by the viewer. This sometimes leads to symbolism, and other things that frequently only make total sense to the editor.

APPEARANCE (aka “Shiny!!!!”)

The point of view of this camp is pretty simplistic: if it looks cool, go for it. No meaning required. The effects don’t need to be there for any conceptual reason, but they look cool, so why not?

MUSICAL SYNCH

Most effects are used for musical synch. When the audio doesn’t justify a hard cut, or a hard cut won’t do, an effect is frequently what fits the bill. Color shifts, freeze frames, inversions, crossfades, and more are commonly used for musical synch.

AVISynch is the only way to properly edit Vobs in a serious editor.

If you don't know what AVIsynch, then take the time to read this:

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/amvappavisynth.html

You'll thank me later.

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:27 PM

ZAPHODB

Or you use my method: Pick a show, pick a tune, pick some clips, edit away, add some effects if needed, render, post, and wait for feedback if there is any.

And I would suggest joining the Vidders group at Yahoo. There's plenty of information, links, and discussion on all the aspects of vidding.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vidder/

Industrial Looniee & Madness - http://www3.telus.net/vchrusch

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Saturday, March 19, 2005 6:50 PM

IMEARLY

My goodness aren’t you just full of....

Surprises.

Thanks for the tip, I will do some research into this group.

Or something, maybe I'll join... oops,

Already did. (magic of the internet)

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Monday, March 21, 2005 1:23 PM

BIOCHEMGEEK

I have a question about distributing fan vids. I just made my first vid ever, and I would like a little feedback on it. I don't really have hosting capabilities. Is there a site out there that hosts other people's vids? And if I did manage to find somewhere to host it, where's the best place to post the link for people to view it? Here? Or is there another forum somewhere meant for this.

Suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Monday, March 21, 2005 6:46 PM

IMEARLY

There is nothing set in stone regarding Fan Vid's, there is however a database of AMV's (Anime Music Videos) at www.animemusicvideos.org
(These have been the true focus of my budding talent.)

Here's what you can do until you find an alternative.

http://s4.yousendit.com

Upload it, post it, and send me a link.

I'll be first in line.

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:18 PM

BIOCHEMGEEK

My first two (and so far only) fan vids are now finished and online.

If anyone is interested, they can be found at:
http://home.cogeco.ca/~biochemgeek/videos.htm

I made them before I read ImEarly's really long post on how to make a good video, so please be kind with the criticism.

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:44 PM

ZAPHODB

I'm going to check your two vids out, but did you know that there's another vid done to the song "At the Beginning"? You can find at this site:
http://www.creative-insanity.net/voice/deaniemiscvids.html

Industrial Looniee & Madness - http://www3.telus.net/vchrusch

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:00 PM

ZAPHODB

Nice work on the vids!

Industrial Looniee & Madness - http://www3.telus.net/vchrusch

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Friday, April 15, 2005 11:29 AM

BIOCHEMGEEK

Quote:
Originally posted by ZaphodB:
Nice work on the vids!

Thank you.

And I did find the other "A beginning" vid, sometime after I was about 90% done mine. Great minds think alike, I guess. (:-) Fortunately they seem to be reasonably different.

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