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Browncoats’ signatures here please!

POSTED BY: PETITRHINO
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Tuesday, March 22, 2005 6:33 AM

PETITRHINO


I’m creating a Serenity/Firefly poster on which I’d like to put signatures from as many browncoats as I can fit in. Since I can’t possibly go around the world to see you all in person *wishing I could* I’d like you to send me a picture of your signature:

- You can sign your username OR your real name OR sign one and the other in brackets OR you can have a signature that resembles nothing at all :-) , but please put your username somewhere so I know whose signature it is.

- Use a thick pen, so it will appear clearly on the montage,

- Sign on a white plain paper, using black or a dark colour,

- You can then scan it or take a digital picture of it,

- You can either post a link to the picture here, or send it to me at flanatic_flo@yahoo.co.uk


Does anybody know a place where I could have it printed? Once I finish it (hopefully, I will be done by the end of April) I’ll try to make it available for any browncoat interested.



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Tuesday, March 22, 2005 7:46 AM

STILLSHINY


I'll see waht I can do. You might want to look into Zazzle. www.zazzle.com


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Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:39 PM

PETITRHINO


Originally, this is to make a poster for the BDH. But then, I will give it to browncoats as well.

Innocent (or maybe dumb ) as I am, I didn’t realise asking for handwritten autographs of browncoats could be a problem. I just thought that it would be nice to give something to the BDH at the Starfury convention, that it would be funny to give them a poster with our autographs (instead of them always giving us theirs) and that it would be cooler the autographs were handwritten.

Now, if it still bothers you, feel free not to give anything or to give your autograph nicely typed in a pretty font. How’s that?

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Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:54 PM

ZOID



petitrhino:

One thing I might add to an otherwise unique and splendid idea: The Flans could use their screen names, if the idea of using their actual 'payroll signature' causes fears of identity theft.

I can just envision my signature pasted to an online declaration of war on macaroni and cheese, and all the infidels who eat it...


Sign-ificantly,

zoid

P.S.
Now, if I could just find the scanner I haven't used in 6 years...

P.P.S.
Blue or White?
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Wednesday, March 23, 2005 2:23 AM

PETITRHINO


Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
P.P.S.
Blue or White?


You mean your sig? Dark colour, please.

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Wednesday, March 23, 2005 5:45 AM

TENTHCREWMEMBER

Could you please just make it stranger? Stranger. Odder. Could be weirder. More bizarre. How about uncanny?


Quote:
Originally posted by petitrhino:

Does anybody know a place where I could have it printed? Once I finish it (hopefully, I will be done by the end of April) I’ll try to make it available for any browncoat interested.


Zazzle.com (for t-shirts, cards and posters)
or
Cafepress.com (for all that and more! though I like the Zazzle t-shirt quality better)


Cilantro!
TCM

p.s. my sig is en route to you!

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Wednesday, March 23, 2005 5:48 AM

ZOID



"Petit Rhino":

Actually, I meant as in Blue or White Rhino. Nobody can be pithy all the time...


Rethpectfully,

zoid

P.S.
Yeah, but what about the notion of using screen names rather than payroll signatures? Does it spoil the idea for you? If so, I retract it.
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Wednesday, March 23, 2005 6:03 AM

STILLSHINY


I'm working on sending mine.

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Wednesday, March 23, 2005 6:04 AM

CHANNAIN

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Shiny! I'll work on that.

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Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:16 AM

PETITRHINO


Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:

"Petit Rhino":

Actually, I meant as in Blue or White Rhino. Nobody can be pithy all the time...


Ooooh! Neither It's actually 'Petit rhino'. As in 'Petit rhinolophe'. As in 'Lesser horseshoe bat'.

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
P.S.
Yeah, but what about the notion of using screen names rather than payroll signatures? Does it spoil the idea for you? If so, I retract it.


You can use your screen name if you like. Actually, it may be better, cause then it's easier to know who's who.


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Friday, March 25, 2005 3:37 AM

PETITRHINO


Hi there! You can see the new version of the poster here http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=3326

Now all I need is more autographs. Keep them coming!!

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Friday, March 25, 2005 10:04 AM

SOUPCATCHER


Great job on the poster, petitrhino!!!

My signature is bits winging its way eastward at this very moment

Also, consider this a ker-bump.

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Friday, March 25, 2005 12:16 PM

COZEN


Mine should also be "winging", in a sorta literal sense. Well, "perching" may be the more appropriate term.

Likely I uckf**ed it upway. Much like with the zed feller, the scanner has been gathering dust for some number of years now. Also, given that I'm operation-systemically challenged on the new 'puter, I'll consider it a win if the weblink works.

Thanks for the great idea,

cozen



This day keeps getting better and better.

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Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:48 AM

PETITRHINO


*BUMP*

31 autographs so far, keep them coming!

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Sunday, March 27, 2005 3:25 AM

PETITRHINO


*BUMP*

I insist, i know, but it's really urgent: i won't be able to give the poster to the BDH unless it's finished soon, like by next Friday!

Thanks for your support,
Flo

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Sunday, March 27, 2005 3:43 AM

ZOL


Hi Flo,

have you figured out where you are going to get it printed?

try www.byphotos.com - they have a 20% off poster prints at the moment! (quality stuff on photographic paper - really is nice!)

Darin (Zol.)

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Sunday, March 27, 2005 4:52 AM

PETITRHINO


Thanks for the link. I haven't decided yet. Maybe I'll have it printed through a browncoat (owns a photograph/camera store)...

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Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:11 PM

RAT


I just sent you one. If you don't get it or if its not what you want, let me know!

-Ratboy

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Monday, March 28, 2005 1:48 AM

PETITRHINO


Thanks Rat :)

Okay people, 42 autographs so far!

But why stop at the Ultimate Answer to Life, the Universe and Everything?!!!

If you don't get the reference go see the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy! You should go anyway, cause it's got the Serenity trailer attached right to it

And don't forget the autographs!

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Monday, March 28, 2005 5:12 AM

ZOL


I don`t honestly know if the UK release of Hitchhikers will have the serenity trailer attached - but if we can find a cinema close or easy to get to from the Sereinity Con, then I think a few people might just bump off for a couple of hours

Cap`n Eric thinking about a Matinee performance (pre-noon) or we could go after registering for the Con (especially those who aint going to be at the meet`n`greet

Darin (Zol.)

p.s. are you going to uplod the new verion so that we can all look at it?

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Monday, March 28, 2005 6:10 AM

PETITRHINO


Quote:
Originally posted by Zol:
are you going to uplod the new verion so that we can all look at it?


People keep asking, so yes, soon. I wanted to have more autographs before i added them on the poster to resize them properly

About HHGG, a matinee sounds fine, but I'm not missing a minute of the con. I might have to load up on guronzan though

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:10 AM

STILLSHINY


just sent mine. sorry I couldn't get to a scanner, but hopefull what I sent will work. Let me know.

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:15 AM

LITTLEKAYLEE


since I have 2 nicknames, one for here and one for browncoats, I think I should only do one anyways...so I did the one from browncoats...

*aka Scooby_Gal from Browncoats*

"Yes sir..Captain Tightpants"

"Well my sisters a ship. we had a complicated childhood."

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:01 AM

ZOID


petitrhino:

It finally occurred to me that I don't need my scanner (grrr!). All I need -- or anyone, for that matter -- is Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, the Gimp, or some other graphics program. One can even do a suitable job using the standard MS Paint (color black, paint brush or spray paint tool). MS Paint won't allow a crop and turns out a 640x480 image, but saved as JPG it's only 15.5KB. That means petit would have to crop and resize it, but the 15KB file size means we won't swamp her email with attachments of enormous size.

While it would be best to send her a pre-cropped signature, I suspect she's having to resize all the sigs anyway, since she never specified a desired size.

The point is, if you've got a computer with the standard applets installed, and five minutes of your time, everyone can create a signature for her poster. Even this late in the day (she needs to have it completed NLT COB Friday), I challenge everyone to add their sig to this great fan appreciation idea.


Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
petitrhino: I hope you weren't the guy who posted his cleavage on the NOB (*urp!*). If so, please invert all the pronouns...

P.P.S.
I'm still a little jealous we never got a cleavage thread at FFFn.
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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:20 AM

PETITRHINO


You're right Photoshop, MS Paint make decent autographs with a little practice.

No, I'm not "the guy", mainly cause I'm a girl

You can create a thread if you want to

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:42 AM

STILLSHINY


Quote:
Originally posted by petitrhino:
You're right Photoshop, MS Paint make decent autographs with a little practice.

You can create a thread if you want to


That's exactaly what I did, with a small grapic added.

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:45 AM

JARED


Quote:
Originally posted by petitrhino:
You're right Photoshop, MS Paint make decent autographs with a little practice.


i think a pda is even better, even though i got to decide between pixelated mess and a look as if it was the sig of a six year old *sigh*.

important detail to keep in mind: print resolutions are much higher than screen resolutions. trust me, i spent a full afternoon recreating a badly scanned character sheet just to realize that after printing it looked just as bad as the unaltered scanned version (plain ugly aliasing on the letters). in short: do them in high resolution or set the dpi of the image to more realistic value for print (laser printers will already do at least 600dpi). also, try not to use jpg compression, the blocky artifacts might be a lot more visible after printing. png uses losless compression and should work pretty well for that kind of thing (in fact, even gif might be better and smaller than jpg if you have sharp edges and only a few shades of grey).

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:57 AM

ZOID


Jared:

As long as petitrhino (or perhaps 'batgurl'?) is sizing down, rather than up, and as long as the signature is done in monochrome (black/red/green/blue letters on white background), saving them as smaller JPG should be just dandy. You're not going to get blocky unless you try to blow up a JPG, or unless it's a 16 or greater color image with lots of dithering.

For the purposes of a simple signature, one should stick to simple, in deference to the requester (batgurl) and the amount of work she's doing for the benefit of others. If she starts getting 500KB+ attachments from 1000 Browncoats, we become more a plague than an act of love for her. As we used to say in the AF, 'K.I.S.S.'...


Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
As long as she composes the poster before she prints it -- and how could she not? -- the resolution of the composite is all that matters, not the rez of the individual sigs. Based on her example posted in the BlueSun Room, I'd say it looks like she knows what she's doing, and leave it at that...
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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:58 AM

JARED


Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
Jared:

As long as petitrhino (or perhaps 'batgurl'?) is sizing down, rather than up, and as long as the signature is done in monochrome (black/red/green/blue letters on white background), saving them as smaller JPG should be just dandy. You're not going to get blocky unless you try to blow up a JPG, or unless it's a 16 or greater color image with lots of dithering.


the problem is that in print it might very well be blown up. if you take the "low" quality setting of 600dpi that means a 640x480 image will be little more than one inch wide. im simply cautioning against trying to make it too small and using the look on a screen as reference (because of above painful experience).

Quote:
P.S.
As long as she composes the poster before she prints it -- and how could she not? -- the resolution of the composite is all that matters, not the rez of the individual sigs.


they arent independent. the bigger she makes the rsolution of the composite, the smaller the sigs will be when inserted and the more a small sig needs to be blown up.

Quote:
Based on her example posted in the BlueSun Room, I'd say it looks like she knows what she's doing, and leave it at that...


id assume that is a scaled down version to spare our bandwith, depending on how big the final poster is supposed to be. to play it safe i would take the image on screen, zoom it until it is about the size of the printout and then zoom in twice as much to get an idea of how the print will look.

if 27x41 really is the typical size for posters that would probably mean at least 200dpi to look good, ie. a 5400x8200 image.

i uploaded the reason why i wanted to point this out:

with my usual 1280x1024 it's the exact same size on screen as the printout, but as paper doesnt glow and you tend to get closer the edges will look a lot sharper. to get an idea of what the printout looks like, zoom it to about 200% and look at the letters. put simple: i screwed up and wasted a lot of time because i created a canvas that was 28x20cm at screen resolution.

another screwup when cropping:

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:59 AM

PETITRHINO


Autographs that were of low quality, I improved them with photoshop. Hopefully, it all looks good and will look even better when printed. The montage file is getting heavy...

53 autographs so far... What else? I still don't know where I'll have it printed though I have a few ideas (comparing costs at the moment).

Thanks for the support, y'all

>>>I'd say it looks like she knows what she's doing<<<
We can hope

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:11 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


i'll do this today...really i will.


promise.


see, i'm getting my scanner out right now...

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:17 AM

ZOID


Jared and petitrhino (which does sound more like 'little rhinoceros' than a variety of bat, BTW):

I suppose a pertinent question would be the intended size of the print. Is she going with full poster or more of a handbill size, like the Serenity movie handbills given as freebies at most of the cons this past year. I always assumed a handbill size that could be produced in quantity at a reasonable cost, would be space-saving (since the intent is to give them to BDH's and you would ideally like them to be retained, rather than 'round-filed'), and frameable as mementos for a lifetime. Full-size posters are cumbersome and a headache for printing, as Jared has undoubtedly experienced. I'm unsure what the values of some important variables are: 1) What final print size? 2) What size, depth and rez for sigs (standardizing this is more important for full-poster than handbill); et cetera...

Jared: petitrhino's email address is posted above. Perhaps you might volunteer to help her with proofing?


Respectfully,

zoid
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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:38 AM

BRITCHICK


I've emailed mine to you - thanks for organising this :)

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:18 AM

JARED


Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
Jared: petitrhino's email address is posted above. Perhaps you might volunteer to help her with proofing?


not quite sure how. best i could offer would be making a color printout at the intended size and saying how it turns out. though that would be based on the assumption that a color laser is closer to a professional print than inkjet printers.

and the size.. guessing from the uploaded version id expect a4 to look good and a3 to be ok (unless somebody has the urge to rub his nose on the paper *g*). though the final size might mostly be a question of how many sigs will come together?

speaking about sigs: still looking horrible, but the best i will get out of these fingers (which probably havent written a single word in years) and of course a readable but painfully unsuitable something

but now back to finding things to write about the so far neglected bdh on my "non-fan site" *fg*

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:24 AM

STILLSHINY


Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
i'll do this today...really i will.


promise.


see, i'm getting my scanner out right now...

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I was hoping you would. (fighting urge to do some lame Tulsa Represent! mantra) You could even do a pic of one of your girls.

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:13 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


I did it. Can you beleive I actually did it? Yep. The email has been sent. Wow.


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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:14 PM

MALICIOUS


I just emailed you mine! I just typed it in a pretty font. I have no clue how to use this scanner thingy.

Mal-licious

I think I will add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:53 PM

FORRESTWOLF


All right, I sent my signature, too! Very shiny idea.

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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:15 AM

PETITRHINO


Thanks you for the many advice Zoid and Jared. It's a might confusing, but it's good advice to have.

The file is in 200dpi and yes, I made it smaller to post it here. I can remember exactly but it's something like 3000*5000 (maybe?)

I would like to make it into a medium sized poster (A2 format), but might choose a size smaller 18*12 (that's ~60*40 cm).
That's for the BDH.

AFTER THAT, for the browncoats, I'll see. I won't take care of this before May. Sorry guys if you wanted the poster quickly, but I don't want to make it available before the BDH got theirs. I'm sure you understand.

Another thing: when I get a autograph by email, I REPLY EVERY TIME. If you sent yours and didn't get a reply, send it again.
If you had a reply, and it's not on the latest version, don't worry, you're on my list and you'll be added

Oh, and 74 autographs so far

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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:57 AM

JARED


Quote:
Originally posted by petitrhino:
The file is in 200dpi and yes, I made it smaller to post it here. I can remember exactly but it's something like 3000*5000 (maybe?)


sounds good. at 200dpi that would be just about the 40x60 you had in mind (doesnt sound like coincidence *gg*).

Quote:
Sorry guys if you wanted the poster quickly, but I don't want to make it available before the BDH got theirs. I'm sure you understand.


well, considering i assumed it would be exclusively for the bdh i have no problem with that ,-)

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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:11 AM

BLACKOUTNIGHTS


It'll cost ya $20.

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Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:32 AM

PETITRHINO


*BUMP*

79 autographs! Who's going to make it 80?

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Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:13 PM

PETITRHINO


DEADLINE IS TONIGHT!!!

Not that the poster is lacking in autographs number (92 so far), but this is a unique occasion to show your love and support to the BDH!!

100 sounds like a good round number, don't ya think?

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Friday, April 1, 2005 3:30 AM

JARED


Quote:
Originally posted by petitrhino:
100 sounds like a good round number, don't ya think?


just 8 more? was there a thread at the uni board? maybe it needs bumping *checking* dont make me cheat and sign with different screen names *lol* (the one was bad enough)

http://festini.device-zero.de

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Friday, April 1, 2005 4:30 AM

STILLSHINY


Show your true brown colors!

Check out my shop! Firefly & LOST products.
http://www.zazzle.com/contributors/products/gallery/browse_results.asp
?cid=238187680745956238

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

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Friday, April 1, 2005 9:48 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


just a friendly *bump*

www.thatweirdgirl.com
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Can we not revel in our cyber-love?

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Saturday, April 2, 2005 10:54 AM

PETITRHINO


Thanks people!

I have 110 autographs. The deadline is passed, but the poster is not finished, so you can still send your autographs, I'll try to include them.

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Thursday, April 7, 2005 1:06 AM

PETITRHINO


*BUMP*

128 autographs. You can see the alsmost finished version in the image section.

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Friday, April 8, 2005 4:40 AM

PETITRHINO


I finally know when and where I'm having it printed. So the NEW DEADLINE is next THURSDAY APRIL 14TH!

I'm also working on opening my shop at cafepress.com to make the poster available, among other things :)

http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=3416

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Friday, April 8, 2005 2:44 PM

FIREFLOOZYSUZIE


OK, thanks for extending the deadline for slowpokes like me! Just sent it. Hope you got it and it's a good size 'n everything.

Suze

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