Mudsore? by ManiacNumberOne

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Mudsore?

POSTED BY: MANIACNUMBERONE
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 18:46
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Monday, February 10, 2003 8:56 AM

OK. Here's question for y'all. I was singing the song from the Jaynestown episode, or at least humming it, when I thought "I bet the words to this song are on fireflyfans.net" Sure enough they are, but the town named in the song is "mudsore." Is that right?
I wish I had the episode to watch again, but from my memory I seem to recall them saying he was the hero of "Canton."

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Monday, February 10, 2003 9:16 AM

LEGALBEGAL

I believe that canton is the planet. Mudsore is the town. Hope that helps.

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Monday, February 10, 2003 9:31 AM

MANIACNUMBERONE

Well that helps a little bit. But what do they actually say in the words of the song... mudsore or canton? I believe the correct word is canton. I would bet on my crusty chin.
But check out the words that are used right here on fireflyfans.
They are wrong! ACK.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/episode.asp?episode=1AGE06

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Monday, February 10, 2003 10:07 AM

SUCCATASH

What is mudsore? I've never heard of Mudsore, only Canton.

Clearly, the song says, "The hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne!"

NO MUDSORE! Haken, what's up with Mudsore?

Has YOUR mom see Firefly....Lately?

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Monday, February 10, 2003 10:14 AM

SUCCATASH

I've been doing a little research. Apparently, the original script called the town Mudsore, but then it was changed to Canton.

John Jabaley played the bartender in the episode Jayne's Town.

This is months old, but here are his comments:
http://www.johnjabaley.com/news.html

JUST WRAPPED
A two day co-starring role on the new series "Firefly." Created by Joss Whedon (Buffy the vampire Slayer), Firefly will air on FOX. I play a bartender on a planet called "Canton" (formerly "Mudsore") in what is scheduled to be the 6th episode, "Jaynestown."

Hmm. I'm still looking around, I'll get to the bottom of this! The official Fox site carefully avoids giving the town a name in their episode review.

Has YOUR mom seen Firefly....Lately?

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Monday, February 10, 2003 10:35 AM

MANIACNUMBERONE

Yay! The hero of Canton! I love that episode too. It would be a pity if people thought and sang about the hero of mudsore...blah. The words definitely do not roll off the tongue. I am very glad they decided to change it. Thanks for the detective work Succatash.

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Monday, February 10, 2003 2:33 PM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.

Quote:
Originally posted by Succatash:
NO MUDSORE! Haken, what's up with Mudsore?

Because that's what it said on the script that I got.

Exhibit A:

It was just a draft when I made the entry in the episode guide (weeks prior to when the episode even aired), but, of course, no one noticed it was there.

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Monday, February 10, 2003 3:11 PM

SUCCATASH

Wow, you have rough drafts of the scripts?

Are they framed on your wall?

That is cool.....

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Monday, February 10, 2003 4:07 PM

MANIACNUMBERONE

I am glad to be here. I will continue to thwart evil and injustice around the world. Fortunately, there was never any here to begin with. Thanks for responding to my query. You fella's rule.

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:30 AM

SUCCATASH

Maniac,

Have you voted for Firefly DVD's yet?

Oh, I didn't think so..........

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:38 AM

MANIACNUMBERONE

Are you trying to taunt me Succatash? If so, good, I like that.

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:25 AM

ILOVEJAYNE

Not only was the name of the town changed to Canton, but the second verse was changed a bit as well. The final lyrics:

Now here is what separates heroes,
from common folk like you and I.
The man they call Jayne,
he turned 'round his plane,
and let that money hit sky.
He dropped it onto our houses,
he dropped it into our yards.
The man they called Jayne,
he stole away our pain,
and headed out for the stars!

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:34 PM

SUCCATASH

Quote:
Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:
Are you trying to taunt me Succatash? If so, good, I like that.

No, I'm not taunting you. I am manipulating you, it's very different.

VOTE, Dammit! Your vote matters!

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:00 PM

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Where did you get the scripts? Buffyscripts.net doesn't have them. StudiesInWords.de doesn't have them. I NEED! I NEED!

As I speak I am hyperventalating and making fidgiting hand motions.

While ya'll at it, can anyone hook me up with the scripts from this season's Angel?

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Nothing. And nothing. And the Cliff Notes to nothing. Nothing abridged...

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Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:08 AM

SENSOU

"Whoa. Good Myth" has scripts up to "Objects in Space," but I don't know the URL off the top of my head

Sensou
The difference betwwen sports fans and sci-fi fans is that sci-fi fans have never trashed a train, booed Canada, or torn a man apart limb from limb.

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Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:46 PM

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Quote:
Originally posted by Sensou:
"Whoa. Good Myth" has scripts up to "Objects in Space," but I don't know the URL off the top of my head.

They are transcripts, not shooting scripts. I prefer the latter, as they show the changes in the concept of the show over its shooting. Also, I like to see the way the writers describe a scene, rather than a fan's intrepretation. You can pick up some interesting stuff that way. Deleted quotes sometimes shed light on what the writers were getting at, etc.

But, anyway, the link is: http://firefly.shriftweb.org/index.shtml

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WASH: Yes, Jayne. She's a witch. She has had congress with the beast.
JAYNE: She's in Congress?
WASH: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious.

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