Time for confession, Browncoats! by chrisisall

Funny, when I saw Train Job after seein' Serenity on the dvd's , the faint memory I had of Train Job from it's first broadcast got washed over with a new understandin' of what was goin' on, I knew why that girl River was carryin' on so, why that guy Jayne seemed so coarse, suddenly all made sense!(hearin' the dialogue clearly helped also, as it does in most of Joss' work).

Not broadcasting Firefly's pilot first was THE stupidist move Fox coulda made in unveiling it's new series!

FOX

Nearly Newbie Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:50 AM

DIETCOKE

So, say two "Our Father's," one "Hail Mary" and I think we're good.

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:51 AM

SICKDUDE

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Not broadcasting Firefly's pilot first was THE stupidist move Fox coulda made in unveiling it's new series!

Aren't you assuming Fox wanted it to succeed???.... From their braindead perspective, maybe it was a stroke of genius.

"Don't say 'ka' until you've tried it." Daniel Jackson

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:52 AM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.

I remember watching Serenity after I got the DVDs and saying "Hey! This ain't the pilot! The pilot shows the captain kicking someone into an engine!"

Then I watched The Train Job and said "Oh!"

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:34 AM

KISSTHESTRAWBERRYLOVERMRTAM

The suits at Fox are just that, suits, number jockeys. In short, assholes. With all the money each of 'em earns you'd think they could at least hire ONE person with his/her ear to the ground. They make up stuff based upon stuff that has been made up and are outta touch with anything but what bad programs spit out of a computer; they should realize just from their track record that they know almost nothin'.(takes a breath)

Rule 1: Let the artist handle the art; let the accountant handle the money. Executives (since they're stupid little braindead yes men anyway) should be there only to make that connection.

So, yes Sickdude, it was stroke of braindead genius. Now Universal gets to make the real money! ha ha ha

Robocop taught me all about corporations Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:23 AM

MALICIOUS

Quote:
Originally posted by Knibblet:
...since there's no brain dead bimbo with gigantic tits ...

HEY! I resemble that! I'll have you know that...

(re-reads)

Ooops. My bad. I thought this was about me.

Sorry!

Mal-licious

I think I will add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:33 AM

STILLSHINY

Was a fan of Firefly from the first episode I saw. Watched it till it got cancelled. And was very ticked off. Then a friend showed me a program to download TV episodes. Started watching Firefly like that and became a regular here. The of course I bought the dvd's.

My confession would have to be that I got into LOST later in the game. It was about 4 or 5 episodes in till I started watching. Basically I was so sick of the crap happening on Smallville, I downloaded a LOST episode to see what it was all about. Plus I saw David Fury's name associated with it. Once I saw the Pilot I was hooked. I ain't watched Smallville since, and Wednesdays there is quite a gathering at my house just to watch LOST. I even made a shirt to wear when watching. (SHAMELESS PLUG, SORRY)

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And yes, all these folk watchin LOST at my house have also seen Firefly. It's a pre-requisite to being my friend!!!!

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"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:18 PM

My friend had the DVDs and i thought ill watch Firefly in a month or so after my exams. Of course it will be good because Joss created it but surely it wont be as good as buffy so it can wait.

I have never been so wrong - and i cant believe the boxset was in my grasp for over a month and i didnt apreciate it!

I feel so bad about that! But also thankful to all the devoted fans at Fusion who proved to me that i had to watch it immidiatly!

Sarah

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:51 PM

EMMA

I have the worst confession of all.

One of my closest friends is married to one of the purchasers at Sky (ya boo sucks) and being a sci-fi fan she got him to preview Firefly. He didn't like it and on his word Sky didn't buy Firefly and helped to kill it off.

I confess I am still friends with this bad person who caused worldwide badness.

I really should get me a signature

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:43 AM

Just remember, things sometimes happen for a reason.
If the show hadn't been canceled, Serenity wouldn't be a movie comin' out, if he han't made the Serenity movie, Joss might not be doing Wonder Woman. If he didn't make these two back to back hits, they wouldn't have given Joss like five times the money to make the second Serenity movie! To come: Joss owns Hollywood!!

Okay, so I'm a little too into the future here, but you get my point.

Hug that bad friend of yours. They won't be bad next time.

The forgiving Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:46 AM

I didn't miss Firefly when it was on television. I somehow found out in advance about the show, and waited eagerly for it's arrival. See, I'm an Adam Baldwin fan, so I liked the series before it even aired!

Don't be too hard on yourself, you had no idea about the brilliance of the show. I have little ones too, which makes any television viewing difficult!

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:03 AM

I liked Adam since My Bodyguard. That dates me.
Is it just me, or is there quite a few of us Browncoats that have reached our 40th rung on the ladder of life? I catch these comments, or I look up profiles and we ain't jus' a bunch of little kids here, are we?
We all just think and communicate so young-like is all, huh?

Chrisisall is 45!

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:35 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave

Quote:
Originally posted by Stillshiny:
My confession would have to be that I got into LOST later in the game.

For me, Lost is just fictionalized Survivor. Yes, I've watched the episodes and I agree it's well done, but if I don't keep telling myself it's just fictionalized Survivor, I'll get sucked into watching another great show that may not be around for long.

Am I bitter? Well, maybe a little.

My confession is that I didn't watch Firefly so much because I loved the show. I really was not so sure about how far the Western angle was going. I was initially put off by the theme too, but then at first I only listened to the very Country sounding initial bars. Still don't like Country, but have long since gotten into Blue Grass.

What made me keep coming back was the fact that I couldn't figure out who was playing Mal. His face was extremely familiar, but I couldn't figure out why. Now, if I'd been truly curious, I would have looked up Nathan Fillion right off the bat and found out that he used to be Johnny on Two Guys and a Girl. Did I do that? No - I kept watching through Bushwacked. That episode informed me that Whedon wasn't taking any grief from anybody.

Then I watched Our Mrs. Reynolds (the third episode in the original run on fox) and I was irretrievably hooked.

God bless Nathan and his pretty face. If not for him, I don't think I'd be here.

Fans come and fans go...but zealots are with you until the bitter black end.
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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:20 AM

Did the same thing Chrisisal did. Saw the first episode under lots of distraction and didn't get it. I wanted to see more, but never caught it again.....then it was gone.

Discovered it again on Alan Tudyk's IMDB profile. When I saw I Robot, I couldn't place his voice. It was so familiar but I couldn't place it. When the credits rolled his name didn't help. So I went home and looked up the movie, clicked on his name and knew exactly who he was as soon as I saw his picture. "Watt from a Knight's Tale....Gerhart...I know that guy" I started looking at his profile and realized that I had seen almost every movie he had done and liked them all. I clicked on Firefly and realized it was that show from a long time ago. I found it a few months later and bought it thinking.."most of his stuff is great". That was last November. I fell hard for this show and I am so greatful to all of the diehard fans that have done so much to help get the movie made. I wish I had paid more attention back then....I missed out.

Sorry this is so long.

Frogger

"There's obeying going on RIGHT UNDER MY NOSE!!!"

"It shall be loquacious to a fault!"

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:26 AM

It ain't long Frogger, i'ts detailed.
I'm always facinated to find out how folks came across this singular piece of beauty and wit.

Alan WAS great in I, Robot, too.

The robotic Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:46 AM

STILLSHINY

Quote:
Originally posted by Channain:
Quote:
Originally posted by Stillshiny:
My confession would have to be that I got into LOST later in the game.
For me, Lost is just fictionalized Survivor. Yes, I've watched the episodes and I agree it's well done, but if I don't keep telling myself it's just fictionalized Survivor, I'll get sucked into watching another great show that may not be around for long.

Am I bitter? Well, maybe a little.

I have many friends who don't want me to like LOST, because every show I start to like gets Ripped Mercilessly from the TV. i.e. Angel, Firefly, almost Tru Calling, and of course Smallville just went downhill.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:56 AM

Thanks Chris....alway hard to know what length is acceptable when one joins a new website.

Alan was great in I,Robot. He is as good in his serious roles as he is when he is doing comedy. My kids have seen it, though not in my home. (they are 6, 5, and 4 years) They go around the house saying Sonny lines. It is so funny to ask a 4 year old what he is doing and have him look at you completely seriously and say, "I was dreaming", using exactly the same intonation and pronunciation (sp?) that Alan used in the movie. It cracks me up.

frogger

"There's obeying going on RIGHT UNDER MY NOSE!!!"

"It shall be loquacious to a fault!"

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:17 PM

I was wondering if I could show I,Robot to my 6 year old...did it have to be 'edited' or anything for your kids?

Oh, and I joined this website over a month ago, and you'll find some of the funniest, brightest people ever here. I don't go to any other now.
We're so lucky Firefly seems to attract the intellegent and such.

And I've seen replies that last pages!

The also(sorta) new Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:32 PM

SERGEANTX

My only confession is still being a bit pissy with people who snubbed it the first time through. Sorry, Chris, I can't forgive you, but I think we can agree to move on.

Seriously though, I'm guilty of a similar crime. Since the Firefly/Fox fiasco, I can't bring myself to watch any television intentionally. I know I'm missing shows that many of you rave about (Carnivale, Lost, etc...) but I just can't go back.

Now, to be fair, I'd given up on TV long before Firefly, and it was only a fluke that I ever discovered it in the first place. For a while there after Firefly turned out to be so good (and before they canceled it) I'd even decided to give the medium another chance. But it didn't take long to realize what an anomaly Firefly really was.

Anyway.. I don't care how good it gets, I won't be subjecting myself to the mass of drivel and commercials for any show ever again. I'll download the eps if there's something really, really good, but I won't play ball with their little consumerist game ever again.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:57 PM

Wow, we really are of a mind on this.
After Dark Angel I swore never to watch tv again, period. I only watched that first ep of Firefly very casually, out of curiosity and like I said, with distractions. I might have caught it's brilliance if not for the COMMERCIALS and the kid and the questionable reception...

I wanted to watch Battlestar Galactica, but I won't see it's first season 'till I can Buy it!

COMMERCIAL TELEVISION

Anticorporate Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:17 PM

MALSDOXY

I know what did this...

I was hooked on the previews, short and sparse as they were. Each episode just drew me in. When the dreaded day came that it was actually cancelled, i got online, i bought the 'Firefly: Requesting Immediate Assistance' T-shirt, i bought the Blue Sun mug, I sent many an angry, but not insulting, e-mails to Fox-the gorram mother-humpers...But we, the fearless Browncoats, have kept it alive and soon we'll have our lovely BDM...Life is good

"Haven't you killed me enough for one day ?"
- Mal, War Stories

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:25 PM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave

Hey MalsDoxy - long time!

Oh, it's been a long, hard, lumpity-bumpity road, hasn't it? Right now it feels like we're in the shallows, trees overhead with sunlight peeking through, promising warmth and light.

Remember the fires? First betrayal, then resurgence, and finally victory?

*huddling back under the trees, awaiting the movie premiere*

Fans come and fans go...but zealots are with you until the bitter black end.
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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:18 PM

SERGEANTX

Quote:
Originally posted by Channain:
....I was initially put off by the theme too, but then at first I only listened to the very Country sounding initial bars. Still don't like Country, but have long since gotten into Blue Grass.

Channain,

Hearing people say things like this, especially people of such obvious taste and refinement as yourself, truly breaks my heart. I'd like to propose the notion that you have been poisoned - poisoned by something called country music. I'm talking about the crap that passes for country on the radio. Please, please ignore it and realize it is NOT country music. It's nothing more the commercial pap designed to appeal to the feeble minded.

For the love of Firefly, get yourself a copy of Blacklisted* by Neko Case, anything by Jeff Black, Jim White, the Flatlanders, the Handsome Family, Julie Miller, Townes van Zandt.... the list is long. Then sit down and try to forget about the droning garbage on the radio and really listen to good country music. You might be surprised.

*especially "Deep Red Bells" or "I Wish I Was the Moon"

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:02 PM

EMMA

Quote:
you'll find some of the funniest, brightest people ever here. I don't go to any other now.

Ditto, to be honest I never survived more than a week anywhere else. The variety of people and posts here is incredible!

I really should get me a signature

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:42 PM

SOUPCATCHER

Wow, Emma. I wonder what the fall-out from his decision was in the household?

My confession is that I had no clue about the whole Firefly:Immediate Assistance campaign. We looked forward to the show, watched every episode, and were very sad when it was cancelled but I had pretty much suppressed the memory over the course of the next year. My girlfriend handles the Netflix queue so it was a surprise to me when the first two discs showed up in our mailbox back in December '03. We pretty much gobbled those discs up and I spent the next day driving around the South Bay until I found a boxed set. It was only from watching the extras that I learned about the grassroots movement that had been trying to save the show. Got online, found this place, and the rest is history.

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Next up: Early "Nutcrusher" Jubal and the Firebuggers

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:18 PM

ZOOT

So totally with you!!

Have so much to atone for!

Refused to watch it for the brief period it was on UK TV because "I hate Sci-Fi" (I know, please stab me now!)...

Then a good friend, "Evil Tom" as he is known, gave me the box set for my birthday with the words – “watch it, for me, if you do, I know you’ll like it.”

I remember being upset as I’d specifically ordered the third series of Angel. I left it on my “to watch” DVD pile for about 3 weeks and then decided I’d just have a wee look …

Boy! did I feel stupid! Luckily, it was a weekend so I didn’t sleep, eat or leave my room and watched the entire thing… I loved it so much I even forgave Evil Tom for screwing up my relationship with the "Love of My Life" 3 years ago – for which I didn’t speak to him for 6 months!!

Which just goes to show – everything can be made better by the Whedon Verse….

***************************************

Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
armed.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:53 PM

MRSKBORG

Despite being shown on Scify I did watch from the first showing, and yes, I am mighty glad I did. And since finding this site a while back, I don't tend to go very far from here. Bought the DVD's, actually about to buy a second set, cos these ones have been trashed after much useage. Don't think I've ever managed to do that before. Does that mean I'm obsessed? Probably.

"This movie may be a beautiful butterfly, but I loved that damn caterpillar." Joss Whedon.

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:53 PM

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same

Quote:
Originally posted by KissTheStrawberryLoverMrTam:
i cant believe the boxset was in my grasp for over a month and i didnt apreciate it!

Had mine for four months before I opened it. Reckon I've made up for lost time, since -- it's wearing out.

ps: You win the longest ID challenge

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . . (wutzon) Marshall Tucker Band, "Can't You See", from "Blow" (soundtrack)

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:10 PM

You and YT are wearing out your dvd's???
And I thought I was obsessed only watchin' 2 or 3 eps a day!!! Mine'll last another year, at least.

Don't watch 'em enough Chrisisall

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I liked Adam since My Bodyguard. That dates me.
Is it just me, or is there quite a few of us Browncoats that have reached our 40th rung on the ladder of life? I catch these comments, or I look up profiles and we ain't jus' a bunch of little kids here, are we?
We all just think and communicate so young-like is all, huh?

Chrisisall is 45!

Yer right on that! I reached the 40th rung myself, but mentally...*taps finger to forehead*...I'm still 21! I refuse to grow up, anyways! Your not dated, kiddo. I too started being an Adam fan when I saw My Bodyguard. Safe to say, everyone can relate to that movie!

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:40 PM

MALICIOUS

Mom!

Mentally, I'm 19, so I am younger than you even though I will be 41 and a half on May 19th!!

Mal-licious

I think I will add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Malicious:
Mom!

Mentally, I'm 19, so I am younger than you even though I will be 41 and a half on May 19th!!

Mal-licious

I think I will add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

I already mentioned your half-birthday in another thread, did you know that?

I may not be good at math, but...21 take away 19, divided by a half-birthday at 40...I'm confused! Actually I turned 41 last February, so that makes you 3 months older than me, literally. Mentally, though, you ARE younger than me! At least I can get into bars!

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:57 PM

MALICIOUS

I have a mental fake id! Does that mean I have a fake fake id?

Yes, I did see the half birthday notification in the other thread.....the grammar one. But, hey, the more exposure, the more gifts I get, right? Right!

Mal-licious

I think I will add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:10 PM

Well, I guess you do have a fake fake ID...Don't get caught, I don't have any bail money!

What kind of gifts would you like? *off to google Nathan Fillion blow-up dolls* I'd ship you the real thing, but with the restraining order he took out against you and all...

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 7:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I was wondering if I could show I,Robot to my 6 year old...did it have to be 'edited' or anything for your kids?

My kids are pretty hardy. They spend time with older friends who tend to put on movies that I wouldn't normally let them see. After they saw it at my friends house, I sat down with them and talked about what they were watching. My kids are very intuitive, like most kids, and ask alot of questions. Things like "why are the robots mean?" and "Is Sonny nice or mean?" After we watched it together and talked about it, they have had no problem with it. It is not overly violent and Sonny has become a hero to them (as he should). The thing that they cannot understand and get hung up on is why the Dr. had to die.....just too deep of a concept for them to grasp.

Frogger

"There's obeying going on RIGHT UNDER MY NOSE!!!"

"It shall be loquacious to a fault!"

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Thursday, April 14, 2005 7:46 PM

I bought my disks and I have bought disks for two other friends (gifts) due to over useage. They keep borrowing mine!!!

"There's obeying going on RIGHT UNDER MY NOSE!!!"

"It shall be loquacious to a fault!"

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Friday, April 15, 2005 11:23 AM