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My psuedo-definitive Serenity review : *spoilers*
Sunday, May 8, 2005 12:01 AM
MUDRON
Sunday, May 8, 2005 1:54 AM
OXYOPIA
Sunday, May 8, 2005 5:22 AM
WHOISRIVER
Sunday, May 8, 2005 6:05 AM
DEANNAMAY
Sunday, May 8, 2005 6:46 AM
DESANGRO
Quote:Originally posted by WhoIsRiver: SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!! DO NOT READ ON THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEE THE MOVIE!!! Select to view spoiler:- Reavers. Tres cool. The explaination, too, is simple but not over the top.
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Sunday, May 8, 2005 6:48 AM
Sunday, May 8, 2005 8:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by DeSangro: Quote:Originally posted by WhoIsRiver: SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!! DO NOT READ ON THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEE THE MOVIE!!! Also, what's the tactics used by the Alliance and Reaver fleets in space? Does their battle make sense? I've been geekily debating with myself over who would win, comparing the Alliance to the Roman infantry and the Reavers to some barbarian horde-- it doesn't matter if the Romans are outmanned or not fighting on their own turf, they'll still win because they have vastly superior training, discipline, and equipment. So too, I have been thinking, it would be in a dust-up between the Alliance and the Reavers. Unless the Reavers have some sort of military genius on their side... Spoiler me rotten. Select to view spoiler:Christ, i didn't even think about who actually won that fight until you just asked! (Which is understandable, considering that the audience's attention is fixed suarely on the plight of the Serenity and her crew as she shucks and jives through the fight in an attempt to put herself as far away from that pissing-match as quickly as possible...) Anyway, I guess it's safe to assume that the Alliance won, considering they're the only ones seen mopping up after the fight. Though it's a bit surprising to imagine that they won, considering that the reaction of the Alliance crewmen to the sight of a huge Reaver armada suddenly erupting from a dust cloud was something straight out of a Monthy Python flick: "RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!" But yeah, the battle - what little we see of it - is pretty rough-and-tumble, what with the larger capital ships tumbling & crashing into one another while the smaller fighters dart about the fiery wreckage....
Quote:Originally posted by WhoIsRiver: SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!! DO NOT READ ON THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEE THE MOVIE!!! Also, what's the tactics used by the Alliance and Reaver fleets in space? Does their battle make sense? I've been geekily debating with myself over who would win, comparing the Alliance to the Roman infantry and the Reavers to some barbarian horde-- it doesn't matter if the Romans are outmanned or not fighting on their own turf, they'll still win because they have vastly superior training, discipline, and equipment. So too, I have been thinking, it would be in a dust-up between the Alliance and the Reavers. Unless the Reavers have some sort of military genius on their side... Spoiler me rotten.
Sunday, May 8, 2005 8:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by WhoIsRiver: I'm not saying the explaination. Honestly, Serenity works much better unspoiled on many levels.
Sunday, May 8, 2005 8:35 AM
SHINY
Quote:Originally posted by WhoIsRiver: SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!! DO NOT READ ON THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEE THE MOVIE!!! I think it's possibly a little brass eye'd to call this review definitive, but it is good. It pretty much agrees with some of my thoughts on the movie. Regarding the Serenity font.... In all honesty, in the grand scheme of things I don't think it much matters. There are bigger issues to worry about for 'versal. The fact somebody complained about Serenity's landing legs worries me. Hello? I think the final 1/4 of the film is indeed a shooting/stab match gone overdrive, and: I think it really works. It draws people in. Certainly, it threw some people out as they couldn't cope with the idea that Mal's sucide mission might actually be, well, sucide. I think the idea that people can and do actually die frightens people. My good, bad and ugly; Good: - Reavers. Tres cool. The explaination, too, is simple but not over the top. - Simon. Simon steps up. He goes balls. - River. Give the girl an axe more often: it's fun. - Book. I actually LIKED his scenes with Mal. I liked the fact he wasn't going to tell Mal who he was, but he just had to believe in something. - The forementioned 5 minute Serenity-crew and ship Steadycam introduction. It just freakin' rocks. - Lots more (I need to see it again). The bad; - I wasn't a great fan of Mr. Universe. I quite like the actor, but the part didn't quite work for me. A little too much 'plot device' for me. (I'm not saying I could do better, like). The ugly; - Buffy bot. All in all, I think Serenity does a bang up job of advancing the Fireflyverse plot, giving us some character moments (Simon and Kaylee, bless), making people laugh and making people feel emotion. It's a film that will stick with me, and will be rewatchable in 15 years.
Sunday, May 8, 2005 8:38 AM
Sunday, May 8, 2005 8:43 AM
Sunday, May 8, 2005 9:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by DeSangro: Quote:Originally posted by WhoIsRiver: SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!! DO NOT READ ON THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEE THE MOVIE!!! Select to view spoiler:- Reavers. Tres cool. The explaination, too, is simple but not over the top.
Sunday, May 8, 2005 9:05 AM
MSCKAREN
Sunday, May 8, 2005 10:12 AM
DEADMAN
Sunday, May 8, 2005 10:37 AM
FFFAN1
Quote:Originally posted by DeSangro: Also, what's the tactics used by the Alliance and Reaver fleets in space? Does their battle make sense? I've been geekily debating with myself over who would win, comparing the Alliance to the Roman infantry and the Reavers to some barbarian horde-- it doesn't matter if the Romans are outmanned or not fighting on their own turf, they'll still win because they have vastly superior training, discipline, and equipment. So too, I have been thinking, it would be in a dust-up between the Alliance and the Reavers. Unless the Reavers have some sort of military genius on their side...
Sunday, May 8, 2005 1:24 PM
Sunday, May 8, 2005 2:31 PM
TZEGHA
Quote:Yep, it'd be interesting if they were to knock out all of the SFX during the big Alliance/Reaver battle and replace it with a thick slice of blood-pumping war drum/Chinese erhu/western fiddle music.
Sunday, May 8, 2005 3:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by mudron: Select to view spoiler:The reasons for the Alliance wanting River back in their grasp is tied together with the origin-story of the Reavers. I know that in the show (and even at several points in the film) it was posited that the Reavers were simply deep-space explorers who were driven mad by staring into the stellar abyss for too long, but their TRUE origins are revealed to be thus: Several decades before the current events in the Firefly 'verse - while terraforming a planet known as "Miranda" on the outer rim of civilised space - the Alliance decided to embark on a little experiment: while terraforming Miranda, the Alliance had their scientists dope the planet's atmosphere with just a wee bit of secret chemical compounds specially designed to encourage docility and compliance amongst the planet's burgeoning colonial population. What the Alliance scientists *didn't* expect however, is that this secret chemical compound would reacte with an unknown element in the planet's atmosphere, which served to amplify the effects of the secret compound a hundred times over. As a result of this accident, the vast majority of the planets' population of 30 million people simply gave up on taking care of themselves and laid down to die. Unfortunately for both the Alliance (and the entire civilised 'verse), this chemical compound had a completely opposite effect on 10% of Miranda's population...turning these 300,000 people into monstrously aggressive, bloodthirsty cannibals almost overnight. Eventually, these newly-crafted savages got their hands on a few starships, escaped into cosmos, and BOOM: the Reavers were born. And guess who'se the only civilian in the entire universe who knows that the Alliance is directly resposible for not only the deaths of 30 million innocent people, but the genesis of the galaxy's most feared deep-space mauraders? You guessed it: our little River Tam.
Sunday, May 8, 2005 3:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Tzegha: Quote:Yep, it'd be interesting if they were to knock out all of the SFX during the big Alliance/Reaver battle and replace it with a thick slice of blood-pumping war drum/Chinese erhu/western fiddle music. I liked how you think after reading your review, but after this statement, I just love ya! *shivers at the thought of Taiko drumming*
Sunday, May 8, 2005 3:44 PM
Sunday, May 8, 2005 5:21 PM
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