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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 8:29 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


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Originally posted by zoid:
That's probably because your work doesn't tend to fall flaming from several miles above the surface of the earth, accompanied by a chorus of human voices straight from Dante's Inferno. Black box recordings, ugh...

There, that should make you feel better.



Well while I have my critics, I must admit none have seen it necessary to sling my work out of a moving aircraft.... Yet. Or me for that matter.

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P.S.
I thought you were implying you were a pilot. I didn't intend to scare the 'straights'. If you only fly on commercial flights, you should know that your pilots are the most rigorously trained and best-equipped professionals in the industry. I'd come a lot closer to blithely trusting a commercial pilot with my life than a doctor.



Oh no sorry if that came across. I wanted to be a pilot though. Me and my dad were this close to buying a light aircraft together and taking lessons, but he was asked to work overseas and that thwarted our plans. Maybe one day though, when I have enough filthy lucka!... And I'm not afraid of flying....I'm afraid of hitting the ground at severe speed! No my love/hate thing is from being in the terminal - it just drags on. Plus you have to be at the check in so long before you take off. I know it doesn't seem like much but when you frequently travel by air it really pains you. At least it does me!

Cheers for the imagery though Zoid. Nice :)

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 8:35 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


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Originally posted by Phaedra:
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Wow! Kinda like "Manon" from Jean De Flourette and Manon De Source Two of my favourite films :)


Wow them be some fancy movies yer talkin' about there. Does that mean your screen name is a reference to that opera?

Phaedra (a bad luck name)



Why thank you.... My screen name is from "The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari" A German silent film, epitomising the term German Expressionism. It may well have been made into an opera that I'm not aware of....But the central character called Caligari uses a Somnambulist to terrorise a small town. If you have the chance give it a whirl. It's visually stunning.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 8:47 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


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Originally posted by ShinyGoddess:
Now that you have given me that question, I thought about it and I think that yes, there can be bad sex. *sigh* unfortunately. But mostly ( mostly) there is good sex. lol



....there's just so many ways to go with this It's so difficult to focus on one point.
LOL
...No I think I can safely say, I've never had bad sex... I may have played a big part in someone else feeling like they've had bad sex - but to my mind it's always been great!



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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 8:52 AM

PHAEDRA


Ok you have really good taste in film and here I thought you were refering to La Sombulana(sp?). My bad. I really liked The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari, but I'm cheesey and have to rate Nosferatu above it. Does that make me a bad person?

Phaedra (a bad luck name)

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 9:03 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


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Originally posted by Phaedra:
Ok you have really good taste in film and here I thought you were refering to La Sombulana(sp?). My bad. I really liked The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari, but I'm cheesey and have to rate Nosferatu above it. Does that make me a bad person?

Phaedra (a bad luck name)



Such a bad person!

He, he. Of course not. Nosferatu is a beautiful silent film. I think The Cabinet of Dr Caligari just edges it for me because of the whole 'German Expressionist' thing. It's just something I'm into.

La Sombulana I'm not aware of, but I must confess I'm not very well versed in Opera. Of course I'm aware of the more popular ones, but I hadn't heard or seem that one. Is it good? Are you into Opera? For my A Level art exam I did an illustration for 'La Boheme' but otherwise my exposure to that has been minimal.

Although I love A Night at the Opera!!!! Go Marx Brothers!!!!

Oh by the way thanks for saying I have good taste in films.

*blushes*

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 9:33 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC


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Originally posted by Phaedra:
Oh and keep the Real Genius shout outs coming. Is it possible to build a space laser large enough to destory the evil that is fox?

Phaedra (a bad luck name)


Look, right now we have a tracking system, a large spinning mirror, and we’re trying to freeze something. It’s not going well.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 9:38 AM

ASTRAGYNIA


I'm a religion student.
Really.
And no, I'm not joining the above discussion. Not at the moment, anyway.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 9:57 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC


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Originally posted by Astragynia:
I'm a religion student.
Really.
And no, I'm not joining the above discussion. Not at the moment, anyway.


Good.

No offence but the last thing you need in a discussion of the existence of god is religion. It just clouds the issue so much. I’ve already screwed that up in this thread and we don’t need anyone compounding it.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 10:30 AM

COZEN


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Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
...just wondering, what do other FF/Serenity fans do for a living? Me, I'm a.... How bout you?




Fearlessly -- ironically -- I endeavour to venture back to the topic by lettin' y'all know that by way of vocation I do (colour) timing.

Partially explains many things, such as the eyeglass prescriptions, the poor tan, or the refusal to post spoilers.

Though I suppose my reaction the first time I saw my name in a flick's credits could sorta count as a religious experience.

Then again, nah.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/ldnemeth/images/blackjacksilver.GIF

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 10:46 AM

MANIACNUMBERONE


Glad we wandered back to the topic. I didn't really want to argue about religion at the moment.

By the way, I'm your friendly neighborhood Taxman.



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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 10:47 AM

EVERYWORLDSPINNIN


I can't remember the last time I read a topic that jumped around so much, much less started one that did. It's all good though. Posts should be conversations anyway.

Wes

"I am a large, semi-muscular man..."

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 10:57 AM

EVERYWORLDSPINNIN


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Originally posted by Jake:
Graduate student in astrophysics here. I sit around trying to convince others that the sky really is falling while I try to convince myself that I know physics and that this is the way to go to avoid getting a real job. ;)

Seriously though, I study galactic chemical evolution, which basically tries to reproduce the Milky Way galaxy we observe today through various theoretical formation models, as well as neutron capture nucleosynthesis, which essentially explains how elements heavier than iron are formed in stars and supernovae.




Don't know if this is up your alley or not, but what's your take on string theory?

"I am a large, semi-muscular man..."

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 11:11 AM

STARPILOTGRAINGER


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Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:
Glad we wandered back to the topic. I didn't really want to argue about religion at the moment.

By the way, I'm your friendly neighborhood Taxman.



"Oh, you're the tax man."
"No! I'm a taxman, not the taxman! A taxman!"

Sorry, couldn't resist (and wondering if anyone else will even get the reference)

Star Pilot Grainger
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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 11:21 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Laywer (well, solicitor - we Brits take our division of labour very seriously).

For those unfamiliar from the other side of the pond, I became a lawyer because I thought it was all jousting in court, jousting in the boardroom and on your desk and drinking fresh coffee all day. LA Law lied to me.

What it means is I don't get to wear the wig and cloak in court - though I'm working on it in the next year or so (still won't get the wig though, those damn barristers get mighty protective).



"I threw up on your bed"

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 11:29 AM

ZOID


TheSomnambulist wrote:
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...No I think I can safely say, I've never had bad sex... I may have played a big part in someone else feeling like they've had bad sex - but to my mind it's always been great!

I've had bad sex. While most assume that females are so talented (or at least so unobtrusive) that they can always provide 'good enough sex' for a male, it's not universally true. I'm not talking about unsatisfying sex, either. I'm talking about a sexual train wreck.

Really horrible. On the positive side, the females involved seemed to be having a fantastic time, though I couldn't figure how. It only served to prolong the agony. I'm sure females have many more of these experiences on average than men do: sorta just lying there thinking, "What's he on about?" It's not fun having the shoe on the other foot.

Count yourself lucky if it's never happened to you...


Regretfully,

zoid

P.S.
Kiss enough princesses and you're bound to get the occasional toad.
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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 11:40 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC


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Originally posted by zoid:
I'm talking about a sexual train wreck.


You tried to pull an Ivan, didn't you?

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 11:55 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC


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Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
Don't know if this is up your alley or not, but what's your take on string theory?


I know I’m not the one asked, but I thought I’d stick my change in as I have everywhere else. It’s my understanding that string theory is a mathematical theory, in spite of what people will tell you. It produces the right answer, but not necessarily through the correct means.

If you ask Steven Hawking, the guy in the wheelchair, he’ll say that if something gets the right answer he’ll accept it. (I know because he says that about many things in his books.) On the other hand many of the anti-string theorists say that the important part is not to get the right answer, it is to understand the elements contributing to the process that results in that answer.

-

This is not my field of expertise, but I think it helps to have someone make the distinction right up front. To be true it needs to be more than simply perfect, it needs to accurately describe the universe, and that is where people get into fights. Years ago they did the math needed to prove it was perfect, but there are many perfect things that don’t even make accurate predictions.

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Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
I can't remember the last time I read a topic that jumped around so much, much less started one that did. It's all good though. Posts should be conversations anyway.


I’m glad you approve, you were the only one I was worried about pissing off.

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Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:
I didn't really want to argue about religion at the moment.


We weren’t really arguing about religion so much, though there was a bit of that (sorry), more about physics.

Whether or not there is a god is not a matter for religion, and indeed religion stays out of the debate (but obviously not the tangents to the debate.) Religion only comes in after you’ve made up your mind on god.

The existence of god, or lack there of, is a question of the interaction of matter and energy as well as their natures. This falls under physics.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 12:24 PM

JAKE


You're right, it's not really up my alley. ;)

However, I like it in that it attempts to explain the universe as we see it. It's human nature to inquire about the world we live in, and to attempt to explain our perception of it on an extremely fundamental level (possibly *the* most fundamental level) with formulated concepts developed from observations and mathematics is, to me, just...beautiful. We take what we think we know about this universe and apply it to explain various phenomena. It doesn't mean what we think we know is actually what is occurring, but rather that what we think we know agrees fairly well with what we see. For all we know, we could be in left field and have not one clue of what's actually going on. ;)

On the other hand, despite some recent rumblings from a Dutch (?) research group studying Bose-Einstein condensates, it's kinda hard to really verify this theory. As it is, string theory is just that: a theory, albeit an attractive one. :) Regardless of whether or not it completely explains reality as we experience it is just a minor hindrance in furthering our understanding of our universe. ;)

As you can probably tell, I can't really say anything specific about string theory as I haven't had much "edumication" in it. I certainly am intrigued by it, but unfortunately I don't really have much time to dedicate to it. (I thought the life of a grad student wouldn't be much different than the life of an undergrad - I was *dead* wrong about that.) Nonetheless, I do intend to learn more about it, even if we don't know the degree of its validity. Afterall, where's the fun if you can't look at the world in a different way?

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 12:31 PM

SUBGUY


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Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
Sitting out here on my deck dreading going back to work tommorow, I was just wondering, what do other FF/Serenity fans do for a living? Me, I'm a PC Tech. How bout you?



Up until last November I was a member of the Navigation Division aboard the Fast Attack submarine USS Providence SSN-719.

Now I work for Varian Semiconductor Equipment Associates, a company that builds Ion Implanters.

For those who wonder what an Ion Implanter is, it is a very large (room-sized) machine that bombards silicon wafers with ionized particles, making them semiconductors, which are in turn used to make computer chips. Anything you own with a chip in it, from your computer to your cell phone to your car likely has a chip made with a Varian tool.

Captain Pete

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 12:32 PM

ZOID



christhecynic queried:
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You tried to pull an Ivan, didn't you?

While I'm not really sure what you're driving at ("Oooh, er, that sounds a bit rude!"), I can assure you there was nothing particularly extraordinary about the maneuver ("More of a 'gesture' than a 'maneuver', really.").

And no, there wasn't anything physically wrong with either the girl or myself, either. We just weren't in the same ballpark psychically for some reason. The more she enjoyed it, the more bemused I became. For whatever reason, the experience lacked a certain mutual joie de vivre and sense of union that I generally consider characteristic of 'good sex', or even marginally acceptable sex. While I've had sex with any number of females who lacked technique or suffered from image issues, et cetera, the sex was always rewarding because of physical union and communion of spirits. I'd like to think not worse a verdict would be rendered of me.

It definitely gave me a different perspective on things though. Coupled with being present for two of my wife's childbirths, I realized that I'll never fully comprehend why women put up with such shenanigans...

Women -- all of them -- are truly miraculous.


v/r,
-zed

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 12:38 PM

SUBGUY


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Originally posted by Rezleog2:
I myself am the chief navigator of an offshore petroleum research crew. We do seismic surveys in the Gulf of Mexico (and other places) to collect data for geophysicists to decide (guess) where to drill for the oil that ends up in the tanks of everyones cars. It is my job to convince the vessels involved in the survey to be in the right place at the right time in order for the survey to provide correct information. It's an interesting job that has taken me to many interesting places in the world. One nice thing about it is that the vessels have computer networks that allow me to place all the Firefly episodes on the server, for everyone to see! I have made many converts!



I would love to talk to you some time and compare methods of navigation. I'm sure you rely heavily on GPS, where when I was stuck underwater our best bet was inertial.

Captain Pete

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 1:26 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC


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Originally posted by zoid:
While I'm not really sure what you're driving at ("Oooh, er, that sounds a bit rude!"), I can assure you there was nothing particularly extraordinary about the maneuver

There was some talk about the Crazy Ivan sexual position a while ago. That’s all.

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("More of a 'gesture' than a 'maneuver', really.").
Do I detect a hint of Eddie Izzard?

-

Regardless, this conversation is out of my depth.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 1:38 PM

JADEHAND


christhecynic wrote:
Wednesday, June 01, 2005 09:33
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Originally posted by Phaedra:
Oh and keep the Real Genius shout outs coming. Is it possible to build a space laser large enough to destory the evil that is fox?

Phaedra (a bad luck name)
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Look, right now we have a tracking system, a large spinning mirror, and we’re trying to freeze something. It’s not going well.




FOX will rue the day!
Who says rue?

How could you build that mirror?!?

ohhh...popcorn.....................


Visit WWW.Marillion.Com for a better way to live

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 2:36 PM

FORRESTWOLF


I guess you'd call me a physicist. I work on R&D in space-related technologies. Right now, that means I'm working on microwave plasmas for a rather incredible Air Force application as well as microfabricated speakers for active noise reduction for Air Force flight crews.

In the past, it's meant I've worked on: plasma-based thrusters, small-scale fusion, microfabricated optics, plasma aerodynamics, and more. I have a lot of fun, when I'm not busy writing a report or proposal...

Subguy - I LOVE Varian's little leak detector ion sources - and we're about to get our very own extremely used mask aligner! Jake - I don't understand string theory, either - but I'd bet you'd have a MUCH better chance at it than me :) Oh, and Zoid - I'm learning lots about microwave antennas - but I'd bet you deal with them a lot more?

AS for religion - one agnostic convert to Judaism here (former Unitarian). Fascinating religious discussion, folks - I'm not getting involved except to say that I fully understand where both atheists and more nebulous deists are coming from. OH - and one more thing - I LOVE the 'space Jew' in The Message.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 3:11 PM

MALICIOUS


Zoid,

I am shocked and disappointed that this thread has degraded to a point where EVERYONE got to say something interesting! What has happened to the wild-eyed, anal-retentive, maniacally controlling "keep to the topic"-ness of this site?? Oh, wait! It's never been that way!

Sorry, I've just spent the past two days getting harrangued, in my personal email no less, by "he-who-shall-remain-nameless-for-now" for going off-topic in his thread. Sociopath. Ooops, did I type that out loud?

Anyway, I just want to say how refreshing this thread was to read. Extremely interesting, HUMAN, with varying opinions and ways of expressing them, very divergent and yet funny and kind. The way conversations (and life?) should be. Non-stagnant, non-linear, non-boring is what I mean.

Love,

Your Lishy.....The BANKER. (Hey! The original topic! How'd that get in there??)


Mal-licious

"Let's go be bad guys."

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 4:25 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC


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Originally posted by Malicious:
Anyway, I just want to say how refreshing this thread was to read. Extremely interesting, HUMAN, with varying opinions and ways of expressing them, very divergent and yet funny and kind. The way conversations (and life?) should be. Non-stagnant, non-linear, non-boring is what I mean.


Like all important things in life it is more like a spider web than a rope. No one stares at a rope and comments on its beauty (do they?)

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 5:25 PM

EVERYWORLDSPINNIN


Quote:

Originally posted by Malicious:


Anyway, I just want to say how refreshing this thread was to read. Extremely interesting, HUMAN, with varying opinions and ways of expressing them, very divergent and yet funny and kind. The way conversations (and life?) should be. Non-stagnant, non-linear, non-boring is what I mean.




I agree, this thread actually unfolds like a good book. So let's recap what we've learned so far....

We have a Banker and a teacher.
We have people who deliver goods, and people who sell them.
We have those who keep the sky from falling, and those who keep others from falling out of the sky.
Those who keep track of things, and those who fix things.
Students, Atheists, Agnostics, Theists, and a self professed loser (doubt that one).
Those who tell us where we're going, those who tell us where we've been, and those who make sure we don't get lost along the way.
We have those who make us laugh, who make us safe, and who make us feel better.

I guess what I've learned here, is that it's not so much what you do for a living, it's what you do with your life that matters.

I look forward to reading more of what you all have to say.

Wes

"I am a large, semi-muscular man..."

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 6:00 PM

CHOLLETT


Ahem. Um, yeah. To follow all that really deep thoughtful stuff up, I'm a Grade 11 student at Seycove S. in North Vancouver.

Yeah.

And um, yeah, i go to church.

And i DO actually happen to be a kind of large (5'11) semi-muscular man.

Seriously, wow, this whole thread has been real food for thought. Many kudos. I'm pretty sure i can't say anything that hasn't already been said.

Or maybe i can........

PURPLE CHEESE-GRATING NINJAS!!!!!!!!
Thank you.

"When your miracle gets here, you just pound this button once." -Alan Tudyk, in a message to Joss with the packaged button, about the Firefly movie

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 6:23 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC


Quote:

Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
I agree, this thread actually unfolds like a good book. So let's recap what we've learned so far....

We have a Banker and a teacher.
We have people who deliver goods, and people who sell them.
We have those who keep the sky from falling, and those who keep others from falling out of the sky.
Those who keep track of things, and those who fix things.
Students, Atheists, Agnostics, Theists, and a self professed loser (doubt that one).
Those who tell us where we're going, those who tell us where we've been, and those who make sure we don't get lost along the way.
We have those who make us laugh, who make us safe, and who make us feel better.

I guess what I've learned here, is that it's not so much what you do for a living, it's what you do with your life that matters.


My god you can't top that post.
Unless you don't believe in god.
Your ... lack of god I can't top that post.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 7:10 PM

ZOID


'Lish:

So Wutzisname The Topic Nazi is repeatedly emailing you? He wrote me once -- very blue-nosed -- and was met with thunderous silence on my part. I figured, "He doesn't want me to post on 'his' thread? Fine. No problem." I can't even remember his name.

But I have to agree with you, christhecynic and everyworldspinnin: Conversations are non-linear and unconstrained, or else they're not conversations. They're kindergarten classes ruled by a martinet. God forbid you should color outside the lines...

Sorry you're being harrassed by this schmuck. Want me to kneecap him for you? Officious pricks are copious bleeders. Anybody remember Jerry Quarry? Same concept. (NB: The greatest danger fighting Mr. Quarry was slipping in his blood and twisting an ankle.)

I know you can take care of yourself; but it would be unchivalrous of me not to offer assistance to a lady...


Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
On a personal note, the sword has been lifted from my neck. Hooray! The kids get to eat for another year! Can't you tell how much friendlier and more carefree I am?


-zed

P.P.S.
I just remembered his name. You've seen pictures of him, right? Ah, to be the nattily attired captain of one's own ship ("made from old cereal packets")! I've got a special problem with pencil-necked limp noodles who like to browbeat girls. How about if I have his mum suspend his television privileges? That oughtta teach him.
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"Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDM'

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 7:32 PM

ELWOODMOM


Quote:

Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
Sitting out here on my deck dreading going back to work tommorow, I was just wondering, what do other FF/Serenity fans do for a living? Me, I'm a PC Tech. How bout you?


Wes

"I am a large, semi-muscular man..."



I used to have a job at a television station. It was a great and rewarding job, even though the pay wasn't the best. Then...I had kids. Now I have a job without a lunch break, or any other kind of break for that matter. The pay is worse, too. But you know, I wouldn't trade these past few years for anything! Where we live, it's rare that one parent stays at home. Now that my youngest will enter kindergarten in the fall, it'll be back to the workforce I go!

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 8:29 PM

TUDYKRAWKS


Quote:

Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
Sitting out here on my deck dreading going back to work tommorow, I was just wondering, what do other FF/Serenity fans do for a living? Me, I'm a PC Tech. How bout you?


Wes

"I am a large, semi-muscular man..."


no joke i work at a porn store, and the funny thing is that i don't like porn hehe

"never bring a wooden battering ram to a flaming arrow fight"

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 8:34 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC


To Elwoodmom

Glad to hear you didn't take my cousin's way out, leave the work to other people. Her kid has strong and diverse genetics, but other than that her mother, my cousin, has given her nothing but nine months lodging and the pain of labor. I just hope she turns out ok, she’s such a beautiful little one. All children are.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 8:35 PM

REZLEOG2


Quote:

I would love to talk to you some time and compare methods of navigation. I'm sure you rely heavily on GPS, where when I was stuck underwater our best bet was inertial.

Captain Pete



Well, Captain, the truth of it is that I don't rely heavily on GPS, I rely SOLELY on it. Back in the old days we used many different and varied nav systems, but now GPS and a large software package to do all the work is all there is.

Rezleog

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 9:09 PM

ELWOODMOM


Quote:

Originally posted by christhecynic:
To Elwoodmom

Glad to hear you didn't take my cousin's way out, leave the work to other people. Her kid has strong and diverse genetics, but other than that her mother, my cousin, has given her nothing but nine months lodging and the pain of labor. I just hope she turns out ok, she’s such a beautiful little one. All children are.



That breaks my heart. I too hope she turns out okay!


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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 9:24 PM

KOFFEE


Quote:

Originally posted by christhecynic:
When you believe something without proof I call it, “Blind faith,” maybe you call it something else.



I call that blind faith as well. I have never seen proof of a god, therefore I do not blindly believe in one.

That is the last I am going to say on the topic because I know that I am never going to change you mind, and you will never change mine. All that continuing this discussion will do is lead to arguing and hard feelings.

----------------------------------------------
78% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 10:09 PM

HANITRADER


Quote:

Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
Sitting out here on my deck dreading going back to work tommorow, I was just wondering, what do other FF/Serenity fans do for a living? Me, I'm a PC Tech. How bout you?


Wes





Hmmmmmmm...

It's rather nice to see a thread like this come up- provides a rather interesting if not myopic view beyond screen-names.

At any rate, here is some more fixins' for the Stew-Pot yanked from my profile... Do mind though, the followings just an encapsulation of the last 380 days of "making a living"; for me not just those things that bring in cash- but those things that rake in meaning to life beyond Wife, Son, and Cat.

Registered Nurse (retired out of), to
Volunteer at local University in Language Arts as Teaching Assistant and tutor with English-as-a-second language students. to
Barista (yep- one shift-a-week), to
Ordained Minister (Really not too religous- just spiritual-OK- Not Religious at all, but Spiritual... Can Wed ya and your partner legally if given enough prep time for the particulars of your chosen Religion/Service...) to
Science Instructor in College (part-time),and
Around the bend is... Ah, now that's part of the mystery.


Life is a Ripe Fruit, and I savor it's sweetness.





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Thursday, June 2, 2005 12:29 AM

PURPLEYIN


im a student..boo!
but of genetics...yey!

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 1:55 AM

SUBGUY


Quote:

Originally posted by TudykRawks:
no joke i work at a porn store, and the funny thing is that i don't like porn hehe



Isn't that like a pacifist joining the Army. Or to touch a little on previous posts in this thread, an Athiest joining a holy order?

Captain Pete

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 5:43 AM

SHINYHAPPYKLIN


College instructor in "media arts" (web design, graphic design, interactive media...whatever they decide to throw on my plate this year)

Graduate student in Instructional Technology (first choice was Digital Visual Art, but I didn't get accepted to it, and doing IT was a cheaper, easier way to get my degree I needed to keep teaching)

Considering going on to a Ph.D. in Mass Communication, studying fan behavior and virtual communities...guess who will be my first guinea pigs...

"We gotta go to that crappy town where I'M a hero..."
Shiny stuff for Browncoats at: http://www.cafepress.com/outtotheblack

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 6:00 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


zoid wrote:

Quote:

Count yourself lucky if it's never happened to you...
Regretfully,
zoid
P.S.
Kiss enough princesses and you're bound to get the occasional toad.



....Could be the answer. I do take my time over these things. A string of awful relationships in my younger days has caused me to be very cautious about who I spend time with and why.

However, even in those awful relationships the sex was always great.....

Smug to a certain degree....
The Somnambulist

www.cirqus.com

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 7:02 AM

ZOID



TheSomnambulist:

Yeah, we're talking apples and oranges here. Would you call a romance that occurs in its entirety in a bus, a dressing room, or one time in a lighting loft directly above the band during a long guitar solo a 'relationship'? Neither would I.

Occupational hazard/benefit. I saw it as a benefit.


Really,

zoid

P.S.
The audience couldn't see us, but the band could. They were not amused; but, I felt much better.
_________________________________________________

"Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDM'

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 8:59 AM

MALICIOUS


Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
'Lish:

So Wutzisname The Topic Nazi is repeatedly emailing you? He wrote me once -- very blue-nosed -- and was met with thunderous silence on my part. I figured, "He doesn't want me to post on 'his' thread? Fine. No problem." I can't even remember his name.

But I have to agree with you, christhecynic and everyworldspinnin: Conversations are non-linear and unconstrained, or else they're not conversations. They're kindergarten classes ruled by a martinet. God forbid you should color outside the lines...

Sorry you're being harrassed by this schmuck. Want me to kneecap him for you? Officious pricks are copious bleeders. Anybody remember Jerry Quarry? Same concept. (NB: The greatest danger fighting Mr. Quarry was slipping in his blood and twisting an ankle.)

I know you can take care of yourself; but it would be unchivalrous of me not to offer assistance to a lady...


Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
On a personal note, the sword has been lifted from my neck. Hooray! The kids get to eat for another year! Can't you tell how much friendlier and more carefree I am?


-zed

P.P.S.
I just remembered his name. You've seen pictures of him, right? Ah, to be the nattily attired captain of one's own ship ("made from old cereal packets")! I've got a special problem with pencil-necked limp noodles who like to browbeat girls. How about if I have his mum suspend his television privileges? That oughtta teach him.



Zoid,

As long as he stays on his side of the pond, I'm fine. If he crosses over, I will then turn to you for assistance. Not the kind where his plane has a........mishap.....or anything of course. Just your usual gallant protection.

I'm extremely glad the sword (guillotine?) is no longer threatening. There was a distinct lack of humor in your posts--when you posted--during that time.

Methinks you should invest in some protein bars for next year, though.

Mal-licious

"Let's go be bad guys."

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 9:01 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


zoid wrote:
Quote:


TheSomnambulist:

Yeah, we're talking apples and oranges here. Would you call a romance that occurs in its entirety in a bus, a dressing room, or one time in a lighting loft directly above the band during a long guitar solo a 'relationship'? Neither would I.



No, I'm not sure I'd call it a romance either, but I'd call it a damn fine story!!!!

Quote:

The audience couldn't see us, but the band could. They were not amused; but, I felt much better.


Kudos to you Sir.

Having not done the one night-stand thing, for want of a better word, I'm unfit to comment.

The
Somnambulist

www.cirqus.com

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 9:02 AM

MALICIOUS


Quote:

Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:

We have a Banker and a teacher.
We have people who deliver goods, and people who sell them.
We have those who keep the sky from falling, and those who keep others from falling out of the sky.
Those who keep track of things, and those who fix things.
Students, Atheists, Agnostics, Theists, and a self professed loser (doubt that one).
Those who tell us where we're going, those who tell us where we've been, and those who make sure we don't get lost along the way.
We have those who make us laugh, who make us safe, and who make us feel better.

I guess what I've learned here, is that it's not so much what you do for a living, it's what you do with your life that matters.

I look forward to reading more of what you all have to say.



EWS/Wes,

That was beautiful!! Where's StillShiny? That deserves to be on a T-shirt.

Mal-licious

"Let's go be bad guys."

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 9:09 AM

ZOID



Thanks, 'Lish for the kind regards. Nothing wrong with my hA1c scores. It's just the process that tends to be a little fickle and timing-insensitive. Just ponder the phrase 'the Federal bureaucracy' for a while, and I'm sure you'll see the root of my anxiety.

Are you home from work already? BANKER's hours, huh? (Back on topic, and just in the nick of time, I'll wager.)


Squishy hugs,

zoid
_________________________________________________

"Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDM'

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 9:15 AM

SUBGUY


Quote:

Originally posted by shinyhappyklin:
Considering going on to a Ph.D. in Mass Communication, studying fan behavior and virtual communities...guess who will be my first guinea pigs...



This is just a guess, but... uh... the Star Wars fans?

Captain Pete

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 9:36 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC


I know I write long posts, I know I tend to go on longer than I should, but would it be so hard to actually read all of what I said?

Quote:

Originally posted by Koffee:
Quote:

Originally posted by christhecynic:
When you believe something without proof I call it, “Blind faith,” maybe you call it something else.



I call that blind faith as well. I have never seen proof of a god, therefore I do not blindly believe in one.


Then, provided you don’t blindly believe in the lack of one you are an Agnostic. Not just by my definition but also by the one you gave to me. (The one from that site.)

I said that you are the type of person who most closely follows science in their theistic views. I also said, quite clearly I thought, that Agnostics such as yourself are closer to science than I am.

Quote:

That is the last I am going to say on the topic because I know that I am never going to change you mind, and you will never change mine. All that continuing this discussion will do is lead to arguing and hard feelings.

Actually you’ll find that it’s very easy to change my mind, all you need to do is offer proof or something strong enough to counter current indicators. Besides, it’s not like we’re arguing religion, it’s a question of the scientific method:
1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.
And semantics:
Is an Agnostic a type of Atheist or not?

-

There was a time before you could prove whether or not the earth was round, during this time there were three schools of thought: The earth is round, the earth isn’t round, the earth may or may not be round.

Due to the lack of actual proof the way they lined up was as such:
1 The earth may or may not be round, most scientific
2 The earth is round, semi-scientific, the conclusion was based on evidence, but not conclusive evidence.
3 The earth is not round, blind faith, there was a no evidence to support it and circumstantial evidence against it.

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 9:40 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC


Quote:

Originally posted by SubGuy:
Quote:

Originally posted by TudykRawks:
no joke i work at a porn store, and the funny thing is that i don't like porn hehe



Isn't that like a pacifist joining the Army. Or to touch a little on previous posts in this thread, an Athiest joining a holy order?


The second one happens all the time. If memory serves the one and only female pope was an atheist.

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 9:54 AM

ZOID


Somno:

This occurred at the Austin Cardi's, a converted dinner theatre, capacity approx. 1500 people, circa 1984. I ran off-stage (stage right) as the infamous 10-minute solo began and there was an attractive young woman standing in the wings. I noticed an elevator that ran up to the lighting loft and stepped inside. She jumped in after me. We got into the loft and walked center stage and waved to the band. Next thing I know... Well, I'll just say she had a great head for dramatic timing and I wasn't late for my cue.

The thing that puzzles me to this day is why the band were so upset. I mean it seemed like a lark (and a great adventure) to me; but they were totally mad, even though I got back on time. And I seriously doubt it had anything to do with jealousy. Nobody was hurting for unsolicited feminine attention. They just ranted that it was 'unprofessional', in answer to which charge I pointed at our second-lead who was wearing a tartan flannel bathrobe (with nothing on underneath) and a pair of fluffy women's house slippers and said, "Yeah?! So what's your point?" The argument fizzled, but they remained pretty sullen about it.

As to the girl: I can't remember her name, but we spent the next couple of days 'co-habiting', until the band limped on down the road. I remember she had light brown hair that smelled really good, was smart, followed her own bliss and cooked a damfine steak. She showed me a diary that contained the names and details of all the (well-known) rockers she had slept with over the course of about 8 years (since the age of sixteen, said she). She showed me what she wrote about me: It was very sweet and flattering, personally and professionally.

She was a lovely person and I hope she's happy wherever she may be today. I never met another girl who kept notes; but, I do think I once had a couple of encounters with the actual girl who inspired ZZ Top's "Pearl Necklace" (they were from my neck of the woods, no pun intended, after all)...


Reminiscently,

zoid

P.S.
Know the lyrics to Springsteen's "Glory Days"? That song gets scarier to me every year. Still, I had a helluva lot of fun, and I don't think it's sooo bad to recall the joys in one's life, do you? Why should I only be stuck with the memories of all the times I mistreated someone or made a bone-headed mistake, and feel bad about "talkin' about the old times"?
_________________________________________________

"Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDM'

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