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Wednesday, April 16, 2003 4:34 PM

JADEO0


For my annual school speech, my topic is going to be about how Firefly is one of the best tv shows. Could anyone give me any good points and counter-arguments? Thanks in advance.

Firefly= best damn show I've ever seen in my short, yet productive life

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Wednesday, April 16, 2003 4:50 PM

SERGEANTX


You should just look through the archives here, lots of great observations have been posted. Someone wrote a wonderful piece mourning Firefly's demise, highlighting the fact that what made it so special was that fact that it had real heroes, in contrast to the moral grayness that is frequently cited as one of Firefly's features.
I'll see if I can find it. I believe it was entitled "Eulogy for Firefly" or something like that.

EDIT: here it is, found a link to it.

http://www.keithmpire.com/firefly/

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Wednesday, April 16, 2003 5:18 PM

SUCCATASH


Be prepared to defend against "sci-fi western" discrimination.

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Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:55 AM

LOSTANGEL


You might want to lead with "History is programmed by the winners" that was a paraphrased line by Simon. You could state that Firefly is (note present tense) a show about the losers, and what they do to survive. Today's media, therefore information about society, is focused on the winners in the belief that the losers aren't interesting, and there's nothing for the rest of us to learn from them.

You could say that Firefly embodies the American Spirit in that everyone loves an Underdog, and there is something that everyone can identify with and root for:

The man who lost his faith while in the war and is wrestling with his his morals in an unmoralistic job and society.

The woman whose undying loyalty made her choose between the two men she loved the most (who would you have chosen?)

The young man who threw away all of his considerable materialistic and societal advantages to rescue his sister. He also faces the situation of being a fish out of water, but never loses who he is even if he can't go back to where he came from.

The young girl who had so much talent and was abused and used as a pawn to further the goals of the "big government". (who doesn't love a conspiracy theory?)

The happy go lucky guy who has to watch his take wife in the "manly" role while he "sits in the car" during most jobs. He also knows that there is a part of his wife that belongs to someone else, and he is honest enough to let that bother him. (we've ALL been there before, classic love triangle with a twist)

There's the mercenary who is learning to develop a bond with people in his crew. This must go against everything he knows about survival where you must look out for yourself and let everyone take care of themselves. Learning how to bond is one of the most basic of human survival skills, and watching the conflict that Jaynes goes through shows that this is not an easy thing, nor is it entirely wanted.

Unfortunately, not enough of Book and Inara and Kaylee have been shown, so the arguments aren't as strong for those. But you could start with those examples. Feel free.

______________________
Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?


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