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Kaythryn's Song Thread

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:05 PM

SARAHETC


Hi. This thread is for Kaythryn. She wants us all to share what songs we have in our heads for The Intrepid Crew of Serenity.

I'll go first.

River: "Furnace Room Lullaby" by Neko Case

Now, I know y'all are probably sick to death of my evangelizing about Neko, but she stone cold rocks, simple as that. I suggest everyone acquire this song and others like it with all speed.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:23 PM

TALRIUS


Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
I suggest everyone acquire this song and others like it with all speed.



Why are they going some where?

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:27 PM

HOTFORKAYLEE


This one's gonna take some thought. First thing that popped into mind though was the look on Mal's face when he said to Niska "do you wanna see the real me?". That look, brrr, what I heard was 'Am I Evil' by Metallica. After all, he's a mean old man.



Quote:

"Will you follow me into fire? Will you follow me into darkness? Will you follow me into death?"
"I will."
"Then follow."


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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:29 PM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Talrius:
Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
I suggest everyone acquire this song and others like it with all speed.



Why are they going some where?



Yes.

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:31 PM

TALRIUS


Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
Yes.



Where are they going?

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:35 PM

LJC


"Hide My Track" by Boiled In Lead is so my "Firefly" song.


I got no home I can go back to
I got no one to call a friend
I can't find the place I started
I can only guess how it will end.

CHORUS:
Keep them hounds off my trail
These jailers off my back
Get these bracelets off of me
A little rain to hide my track.

There's no whiskey in the jar
I'm so dry I need a drink.
I need a place to lay my head down
I need to find some time to think.

CHORUS

That old river keeps on rolling
And old Hannah won't go down.
I can't give back what I ain't taken
And I won't give up, if I ain't found.

I have nothing I can offer
I'm like a dog without a bone;
But if there's someone up there listening
There's a poor boy out here alone.

CHORUS




--
Some take the high road. Some take the low road.
And some just go screaming down the highway, dropping flaming bits of wreckage.

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:35 PM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Talrius:
Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
Yes.



Where are they going?



Can you keep a secret?

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:38 PM

TALRIUS


Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
Can you keep a secret?



Most of the time. Can't say always.

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:41 PM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by LJC:
"Hide My Track" by Boiled In Lead is so my "Firefly" song.


I got no home I can go back to
I got no one to call a friend
I can't find the place I started
I can only guess how it will end.



Word.

Every time I think I come up with something, I second guess myself and decide I'm dumb.

Seems every single song I hear I try to relate to Firefly and that's the problem. Listening to Sarah McLachlan now and thinking that "Good Enough" is a Simon-River-Kaylee song. Not in a crazy space incest way but more of a new family being formed kind of way.

Don't tell me why he's never been good to you.
Don't tell me why he's never been there for you.
Don't you know that why is simply not good enough.
Oh, so just let my try, and I will be good to you.
Just let me try, and I will be there for you.
I'll show you why is so much more than good enough.

??

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:43 PM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Talrius:
Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
Can you keep a secret?



Most of the time. Can't say always.



Argh! You're supposed to say "Yes." Then I say, "So can I" and change the subject! Haven't you ever seen Clue, man?!

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:45 PM

TALRIUS


Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
Argh! You're supposed to say "Yes." Then I say, "So can I" and change the subject! Haven't you ever seen Clue, man?!



No, I haven't seen Clue.

Sorry Kaythryn we're hijacking your thread.

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:47 PM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Talrius:
Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
Argh! You're supposed to say "Yes." Then I say, "So can I" and change the subject! Haven't you ever seen Clue, man?!



No, I haven't seen Clue.

Sorry Kaythryn we're hijacking your thread.



You must go directly to the video store and rent Clue. Right this minute. Go go go. Don't look back.

Thread's only half hijacked. 'Sides, that's what makes it special.

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:01 PM

TALRIUS


Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
You must go directly to the video store and rent Clue. Right this minute. Go go go. Don't look back.



Sorry don't got the money to be doin' that.

Quote:

Thread's only half hijacked. 'Sides, that's what makes it special.


There should really be a BS thread where people can just simply talk.

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:01 PM

KAYTHRYN


Quote:

Posted by Talrius: Sorry Kaythryn we're hijacking your thread.

That's okay. Ha, ha, ha, it's still got my name on it so I'm happy. And the thread was finally made so I’m extra happy.



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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:02 PM

PHILOMEL


And ... back on topic --

I sorta see Jann Arden's Thing for You as maybe Zoe's song? It seems life-affirming in a cool way.

And for Simon, I see shades of "Goodbye to You" by Michelle Branch. Sorta kinda maybe?

Hmmm.

Phil.


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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:02 PM

PHILOMEL


Sorry. Double post deleted.

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:03 PM

TALRIUS


Well I'm glad your glad. There has been way too much anger on this board today.

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:15 PM

KAYTHRYN


And am I the only one who hears "I'm too sexy" when they see Simon in OiS? Or when they see Wash in bed with Zoe and he's saying "Somehow less attractive now that she's all corspeified and gross"?

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:19 PM

TALRIUS


Uh, it wouldn't be right for me to hear that.

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:19 PM

HOTFORKAYLEE


Quote:

Originally posted by Talrius:
Well I'm glad your glad. There has been way too much anger on this board today.



Maybe we could push a couple of other threads off the opening page. Another one that just came to me, especially after reading Heart Of Gold I could see a montage of Mal and Inara set to 'Careless Whisper'.



Quote:

"I know, I know what it's like to lose someone, only to find her and then lose her a second time. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, not even you, as much as I might want to."

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:25 PM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Kaythryn:
And am I the only one who hears "I'm too sexy" when they see Simon in OiS? Or when they see Wash in bed with Zoe and he's saying "Somehow less attractive now that she's all corspeified and gross"?




Yes you sure are!

I'm secretly compiling a list for a Browncoat Chronicles mix and that is so on it!!!

Kaythryn you crack me up.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:31 PM

KAYTHRYN


Quote:

Posted by Sarahetc:
Quote:

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Originally posted by Kaythryn:
And am I the only one who hears "I'm too sexy" when they see Simon in OiS? Or when they see Wash in bed with Zoe and he's saying "Somehow less attractive now that she's all corspeified and gross"?


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Yes you sure are!

I'm secretly compiling a list for a Browncoat Chronicles mix and that is so on it!!!


Oh I can't wait to read it!

And I am not Sarah! I know you've got some naughty Wash thoughts in that mind of yours.

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:40 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


I would like to throw in Steve Earles
"Mercenary " for Jayne, in particular and Mal most of the time.

" We'll fight for no country
But we'd die for good pay
Under the flag of the greenback dollar
Or the peso, down Mexico way "

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:45 PM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Kaythryn:


And I am not Sarah! I know you've got some naughty Wash thoughts in that mind of yours.



Heh. You know me and sex fantasies: The longing, the dreaming, the... hugging!

How many flavors of lame am I?!

Oh! Sexy Wash song though:

"Whip the Blankets" by Neko Case (who else?!)
(and note: some of her lyrics are indeciferable--naming rights of my first born to anyone can help)

Well it's hot in the ---- and it's cool in the bed,
And I'll whip the blankets into cotton thread.
I'll tear all the carpet up over my head
So my feet can go right through the basement.

Well you play so surprised at what you have found.
But I heard you comin' from way across town.
?And this beds a gettin'? I'm burnin' it down
?I've a fire and it's prayed in my madness?

Chorus:
Cos I'm steeped in this pleasure
And I've snapped from my tether
The ----- has vibrated hard.
And you lead me again to the back of the line
And we'll work our way slow to the start.

The dishes are broken and the kitchen's a mess.
I'm trapped in the ---- why don't you make me confess
Something something maybe the word delicious I make up my own words about Wash being hot and sexy

Chorus!
Steel guitar solo!
Chorus!

Well instinct is dirty and morality's clean.
And we're bound for damnation say those magazines.
The hell with the sorrow and watered down scenes
We'll burn us a ---- straight to heaven.

Chorus!

I admit it might only be sexy to me. Has a sexy beat, tho.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:07 PM

KAYTHRYN


Quote:

Posted by Philomel: And for Simon, I see shades of "Goodbye to You" by Michelle Branch. Sorta kinda maybe?


I just downloaded that and it almost made me cry.

It sounds like it would play if River was being taken back to the Alliance. Maybe if Simon was having flash backs- his childhood, freeing river, their life on Serenity, and then her being taken from him despite all the he went though to find her and keep her safe. She is the one person he really loves.

Oh, teary again!

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:07 PM

LUPA


Ooh! Stevie Ray Vaughan (spelling?)does a southern rock version of the Beatle's "Taxman" which I think perfectly expresses how Mal feels about the Alliance.
Similarly the Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again."
The Steve Miller Band's "Take the Money and Run," cuz that's what they do.
I always saw "Carry On Wayward Son" as being a Simon song, or possibly a Mal.
A Tori Amos song would be great for River, becuase they often sound a bit like I would imagine River thinks, but I can't think of a specific one.
For Jayne, maybe ZZ Top's "Gun Love"
For Kaylee Cream's "Sunshine of Your Love"
and that's all I got.

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:29 PM

LERXST


Rush's "Bravado" makes me think of Mal. Last line also makes me think of Simon.

When the dust has cleared
And victory denied
A summit too lofty
A river a little too wide
If we keep our pride --
Though paradise is lost
We will pay the price,
but we will not count the cost

_________________________________________________
Cap'n, can I have money for a slinky dress?

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Saturday, April 19, 2003 8:01 PM

PHILOMEL


Since I'm oddly in a Michelle Branch mood tonight, "All You Wanted" seems like it would fit Wash--for Zoe, I mean, the words ... and if it were sung by a guy ... No? Maybe I'm just sleepy ...

I don't think that made any sense. Pretty tune, though. :-)


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Sunday, April 20, 2003 5:15 PM

KAYTHRYN


Okay, this song makes made me think of Jayne for some pretty obvious reasons.

Ape man by the Kinks

The lyrics don’t really fit... with a possible exception to this part-

I'm an ape man
I'm an ape ape man
Oh, I'm an ape man
I'm a King Kong man
I'm a voodoo man
Oh, I'm an ape man

I look out the window
But I can't see the sky
The air pollution is foggin' up my eyes
I want to get out of this city alive
And make like an ape man

Still maybe not, but it gains points with me 'cause it's just too funny.


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Sunday, April 20, 2003 6:11 PM

MELEE


Hmmm... it's a very sad thought, but the song "Concrete Angel" really reminds me of poor River. *snifflesob* Especially the last two verses.

Someone crys in the middle of the night
The neighbors hear but they turn out the lights
A fragile soul caught in the hands of fate
When morning comes it'll be too late

Through the wind and the rain
She stands hard as a stone
In a world that she can't rise above
But her dreams give her wings
And she flies to a place where she's loved
Concrete angel

A statue stands in a shaded place
An angel girl with an upturned face
A name is written on a polished rock
A broken heart that the world forgot

Through the wind and the rain
She stands hard as a stone
In a world that she can't rise above
But her dreams give her wings
And she flies to a place where she's loved
Concrete angel

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Sunday, April 20, 2003 11:07 PM

MARK


There's one song, a little Filk, that always reminds me of River in OiS... When she's pretending to be Serenity.

Phoenix by Julia Ecklar.

"My wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel. I am the joy of terror for the power that I wield. Once upon a lifetime, I died a pioneer. Now I sing within this space-ship's heart, does anybody hear."

Twelve spheres of unendurable brightness spalled the velvety blackness of space.
The silence on Lester Tourville's flag bridge was absolute
And then the spell was broken as Shannon Foraker looked up from her console from where she had just sent a seemingly innocent command to the main computers of State Security's finest Superdreadnoughts.
"Oops." She said.

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Monday, April 21, 2003 12:27 PM

HAPPYENDINGS


Ooh, happy topic.

* For Wash and Zoe (or any other FF couple/pairing, I guess), there's Bruce Cockburn's (or the kickass cover by the Barenaked Ladies) "Lovers in Dangerous Time."

These fragile bodies of touch and taste
This vibrant skin, this hair like lace
Spirits open to the thrust of grace
Never a breath you can afford to waste

When you're lovers in a dangerous time
Sometimes you're made to feel as if your love's a crime
But nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight
Got to kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight



* For Wash and his insecurities, there's Student Rick's "Acoustic Song."

I'm watching you asleep
wondering if I'm in your dreams
did I catch you when you fell?
did I kiss your tears away?
'cause I just wanna be
the man she sees in me
he seems so far away
he's calling out my name
but can I ever be
the man that's in her dreams?
I pray to be one day...




* And for Mal and Inara and their little games, even though it's more of a song for after they get together and then lose each other (say, in season two or three), there's the Dire Strait's "Romeo and Juliet."

Come up on different streets and they both were streets of shame
Both dirty, both mean, yes, and the dream was just the same
I dreamed your dream for you and now your dream is real
How can you look at me as if I was just another one of your deals?

You can fall for chains of silver, you can fall for chains of gold
You can fall for pretty strangers and the promises they hold
You promised me everything, you promised me thick and thin
Now you just say, oh romeo, yeah you know I used to have a scene with him

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Monday, April 21, 2003 3:28 PM

FUTURESMITH


Quote:

Originally posted by Mark:
There's one song, a little Filk, that always reminds me of River in OiS... When she's pretending to be Serenity.

Phoenix by Julia Ecklar.

"My wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel. I am the joy of terror for the power that I wield. Once upon a lifetime, I died a pioneer. Now I sing within this space-ship's heart, does anybody hear."




Oh I hadn't thought of Phoenix in years. You are right, it's a great River song. But I think your quote is misspelled. "I am the joy of Terra ..." since this was written after the Challenger was lost.

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Monday, April 21, 2003 8:45 PM

TALRIUS


Hey shouldn't there be some country songs in here? It's a space western, right?

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Monday, April 21, 2003 8:48 PM

KAYTHRYN


But it's Kaythryn's song thread. Kaythryn's! Notice the name? I want some oldies rock songs in here!

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Monday, April 21, 2003 8:52 PM

TALRIUS


Hmm. It's your thread. Kinda selfish. But I LIKE it. Anyway so be it I'll start listenin' to some oldies rock, what decade?

Finely that stupid argue in circles threads off the main page. I can relax now.

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Monday, April 21, 2003 8:57 PM

KAYTHRYN


Little 50's, some 60's, lots of 70's and 80's and very little 90's.

Hum, did that help?

What do you listen to anyway?

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Monday, April 21, 2003 9:02 PM

TALRIUS


That's... that's a whole hell of a lot of listenin' to find a song that fits firefly. But what the hell.

I listen to Metal, rock, Alternitive- not pop alt though. Classical, opera, some country, insperational. Just about anything that the beat catches me. Really no faves only one hate, rap.

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Monday, April 21, 2003 9:07 PM

KAYTHRYN


Yo, yo, yo, yo.
(White girl trying to sound like a black rapper= stupid.)
You don't like rap? I think Some of it's pretty good. No vanilla ice, but anything that has that magic beat you were talking about.

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Monday, April 21, 2003 9:11 PM

TALRIUS


Yo, yo, yo, homie,

Maybe a beat or two here and there. But I didn't listen long because it's unbearable.

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Tuesday, April 22, 2003 3:35 AM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Talrius:
Hey shouldn't there be some country songs in here? It's a space western, right?



Neko's alt-country.

*ducks and covers*

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Tuesday, April 22, 2003 7:50 AM

MARK


Quote:


Oh I hadn't thought of Phoenix in years. You are right, it's a great River song. But I think your quote is misspelled. "I am the joy of Terra ..." since this was written after the Challenger was lost.



You're quite right about the mis-quoting... I was listening to the song and transcribing and got it wrong... As for being after Challenger, I think you're wrong there. I think this one was written in 1983 and, if you listen closely, then it references 'Capsule 12' and lots about dying in fire. I think it's referring to the three men who died in a fire in the Apollo program. I believe it was Apollo 12. The door jammed and the matting caught fire.

The other song that belongs in a pair with this one is 'Fire in the Sky' by Dr. Jordin Kare that Buzz Aldrin quoted after the Columbia disaster.

"The Gods do not give lightly of the powers they have made, and with Challenger and seven, once again the price is paid. Though a nation watched her falling, now a world can only cry a they passed from us to glory, riding fire in the Sky."

Twelve spheres of unendurable brightness spalled the velvety blackness of space.
The silence on Lester Tourville's flag bridge was absolute
And then the spell was broken as Shannon Foraker looked up from her console from where she had just sent a seemingly innocent command to the main computers of State Security's finest Superdreadnoughts.
"Oops." She said.

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Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:44 AM

KAYTHRYN


This is a perfect song for how Zoe feels about Wash! I see her getting mad at him and thinking “Sometimes I never want to see you again”, but then quickly going back to “You’re still the one that makes me laugh. Still the one that’s my better half, we’re still having fun, and you’re still the one.” The one *wink, wink* The one she chose. Here are the lyrics.


You're still the one-- Orleans

We've been together since way back when
Sometimes I never want to see you again
But I want you to know, after all these years
You're still the one I want whisperin' in my ear

You're still the one I want to talk to in bed
Still the one that turns my head
We're still having fun, and you're still the one

I looked at your face every day
But I never saw it 'til I went away
When winter came, I just wanted to go
Deep in the desert, I longed for the snow

You're still the one that makes me laugh
Still the one that's my better half
We're still having fun, and you're still the one

You're still the one that makes me strong
Still the one I want to take along
We're still having fun, and you're still the one

Changing, our love is going gold
Even though we grow old, it grows new

You're still the one that I love to touch
Still the one and I can't get enough
We're still having fun, and you're still the one

You're still the one who can scratch my itch
Still the one and I wouldn't switch
We're still having fun, and you're still the one

You are still the one that makes me shout
Still the one that I dream about
We're still having fun, and you're still the one...





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Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:49 AM

TALRIUS


That's cool Kaythryn.

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Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:48 PM

LERXST


Man, that song brings me back! It was on this Disco Duck LP from K-tel that I ordered when I was ten.

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Cap'n, can I have money for a slinky dress?

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Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:00 PM

SARAHETC


I downloaded "Lover's in a Dangerous Time" and really like, except for that I really don't like that one guy's voice. Why do they let him sing? Anyway, it is very Wash'n'Zoe.

Dl'ing yours now, Kaythryn.

Somebody on the fox board mentioned "Your Body is a Wonderland" by John Mayer as a Wash'n'Zoe song, so now I always think of them when I hear it.

Haven't found one on my own that I would really say reminds me.

Question: Should "Baby Got Back" be a Browncoat Chronicles song!?

Maybe a more toward question should be: should I go soak my head?

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:21 PM

TALRIUS


Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
Question: Should "Baby Got Back" be a Browncoat Chronicles song!?

Maybe a more toward question should be: should I go soak my head?



No to the first and yes to the second. I think you've been video taping one too many Proms. Get out now before you start rappin' and wearing your pants around your ankles.

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DOBSON: Okay. I can see you're not an idiot.

DOBSON: I'm supposed to be meeting my wife's sister. I've only got a few days to see her...

ZOE: I wish there was another way...

DOBSON: Oh, no, no. That woman is like a dragon. I mean, I believe she has a tail. If there's any other moons we need to visit, or if we could just
fly very slowly...

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Wednesday, April 23, 2003 2:37 AM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Talrius:
Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
Question: Should "Baby Got Back" be a Browncoat Chronicles song!?

Maybe a more toward question should be: should I go soak my head?



No to the first and yes to the second. I think you've been video taping one too many Proms. Get out now before you start rappin' and wearing your pants around your ankles.



But it's just so peppy! But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her honda! My anaconda don't want none unless you got buns hun!

So peppy.

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:09 AM

PAPERWASTER


The song "the widowing field" by Jars of Clay always makes me think of Mal and Zoe at the Battle of Serenity and the moment when Mal lost his faith.

I'm sure I could never make it through the night without you here.
The fires in the sky
illuminate the demons closing in.
Have mercy on my soul if I am not the last to go.
As I crawl around these trails and fight upon these widowing fields the ground below is bare and burned at the places that I learned to trust you.
Have mercy on my soul if I am not the last to go.
When even silence sets my heart to racing
I will lift my eyes to you
please Father, find me
Have mercy on my soul if I am not the last to go.

It is very plaintive with a lot of violin, so maybe that's the country feel you were looking for.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:15 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Mal - "Broken Wings." - Mr. Mister?

Zoe - "She walk softly but she carry a big gun." - Ice T, from Tank Girl soundtrack.

Wash - "The hallejua chorus" from Handels Messiah.

Book - "Gotta have faith" - George Michael.. picture Book *dancing* to this, then try not to laugh, you can't!

Kaylee - "Kiss Me" - Sixpence None the Richer? song just SOOO matches her spirit.


Simon - "Smooth Operator" - Artist Unknown.

River - "When you're strange" - The Doors.

Jayne - "Friend of the Devil" _ Grateful Dead.

Inara - "Witchy Woman" - Eagles.


"You can't take the sky from me."
Unless you're Fox networks

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