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Nut on IMDB slanders Jewel

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 7:48 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Okay Browncoats, time to rally around one of our BDHs. Seems some ruttin' individual has decided to label our own lovely Jewel as a "bigot".

His comment can be found on IMDB here:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0821612/board/thread/23676024

Here is what Jewel had to say in her latest blog:

http://users.ev1.net/~alternity/abadeo/jewel_staite/Jewel.html


Quote:

5 August 2005

Dear Roj

I'm afraid this is long overdue, but time seems to have flown by. I have never traveled so much in my LIFE these past couple of months... lots of airmiles racked up for jaunts to Maui, hurrah! I just got back today from doing a shoot for Interview Magazine (one of my favorite magazines) for the October issue, shot by Amanda Friedman in LA. It was a blast, lots of fancy dresses to wear and Kate Spade heels (with faux fur!), lounging on patios in the sun. The downside was that I was sick as hell. Hacking, sneezing, bleary-eyed kind of sick where my skin looked like poo and I felt like I was carrying a load of bricks on my back. Of course, now that said photo shoot is over, I feel back to normal again—isn't that funny?

The big movie opens soon, so the anticipation is heavy in the air and my palms are all sweaty. Still lots of traveling to do, yet... back to LA next weekend for the launch of the Teen People young Hollywood issue (should be on newsstands now, even though it's nowhere to be found in the great white North as of yet). Then we're off to Scotland with the cast of Serenity for a film festival, and some international press. Then to Atlanta for DragonCon, then back to LA for press and... what???? the premiere!!!!!! I can't believe it's here already. And then in October, possibly, a small re-lax, and then to London for another one of Sean Harry's fabulous conventions. Did I mention airmiles? Holla!

What else? Oh, lets talk about IMDB. Someone brought to my attention something that was said about me and my character on one of the message threads at the bottom of my info page. So I went and read it... and I was shocked at what people say! Hey, I can take people saying I'm a bad actor... I say it myself when I watch certain things, so that doesn't bug me. But saying I'm a bigot? whoa whoa whoa.... Normally, I would leave this jazz alone, but I absolutely have to say something (lets just say I'm having a Nathan Fillion/comic book guy moment). Never would I use the term "fag" to refer to a homosexual, especially not on a public commentary, people! I'm wanting to listen to mine and Alan's commentary for "The Message" again, just to see where this confusion would arise from. If you know me personally, you'll know that most of my closest friends are gay, much to my husband's friends' chagrin. These friends are my confidants, my support system, and my stylists, if need be. I may have a dirty mouth from time to time... or sometimes more often than time to time... but I'm not a bigot. By a long, long shot. So you IMDB message boarding peeps, go ahead and say how much I suck, or how you don't like my picture, or how you heard me fart on a bus once, or whatever, but please listen to that commentary again. Or I'll tell Nathan. And then you'll really be sorry!

Okay enough ranting. Thanks to all who are supportive and wonderful. One of the best things about this job is reading those sweet things you say, and knowing that you're behind me. You guys rock.


Anyway, put your party shoes on: there's lots of celebrating to be done soon.

Love Jewel




I don't know about the rest of you, but I have had the pleasure of meeting Jewel twice and getting a chance to talk to her. She is down to earth, friendly, funny, and approachable. She, like Nathan & Adam (can't speak for the rest of the cast as I have not met them) love to talk to the fans . The woman is no more a bigot than I am a Reaver.

I hope that some of you who have met Jewel will head over to IMDB and set this whacko straight.

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 7:59 AM

RABIT


I honestly wouldn't worry about this too much. It looks like the guy was just one of many IMDB trolls...

It's a shame that people have to act that way.

I greatly respect Jewel's response, though. Seems the more I see and hear about our BDH's, the more I like them as people. (I already like them as actors! )

Rabit

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 8:01 AM

SIMONWHO


He misheard the commentary. He didn't attack Jewel or label her, he just said he was disappointed by what he (mis)heard. He's been put straight. Probably best to leave it as that before we start getting a reputation...

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 8:32 AM

GABRIEL


You know what is reputation? Is gossip, is people talking...I also have reputation...Now for you my reputation is fact, is SOLID...


Probably best to leave this one alone. Good for Jewel for taking a stand, though.

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 9:12 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
He misheard the commentary. He didn't attack Jewel or label her, he just said he was disappointed by what he (mis)heard. He's been put straight. Probably best to leave it as that before we start getting a reputation...




You did read what he wrote didn't you?


Quote:

Disapointed in another bigot.
by - SeanMarshall 6 days ago (Wed Aug 3 2005 09:14:59)

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I was really disappointed to hear her say in during the Firefly commentary, "What kind of fag are you?"



Calling her a "bigot" is a label in my opinion. Add to this the fact he obviously misheard without some sort of proof, or outright lied to start a heated debate tells me that he is the worst kind of troll. He would slander a good person w/ no evidence.

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 9:35 AM

SIMONWHO


Oops, didn't notice what the thread on IMDB was called.

But in any case, he misheard her, he's been corrected. Unless you want us to start surrounding the IMDB and that guy's house with flaming torches, what else is there to do?

And I don't seem to recall this much concern about bigotry, in particular homophobia, when Orson Scott Card was praising Firefly.

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 9:41 AM

KNIBBLET


Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
And I don't seem to recall this much concern about bigotry, in particular homophobia, when Orson Scott Card was praising Firefly.


You weren't paying attention then. There was a huge pulsating flame war on this site concerning Orson Scott Card. You might want to check the archived threads.

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/MN-Firefly/

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 10:23 AM

DANTE144


Just out of curiosity, did this person recant?

also whats this about Orson Scott Card? Is there a link?

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 10:23 AM

ALEX21


Wait, what?

Orson Scott Card is gay?

PIE!

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 10:55 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by dante144:
Just out of curiosity, did this person recant?

also whats this about Orson Scott Card? Is there a link?

"Jesus saves, everyone else takes damage" -tee shirt some girl was wearing at Megacon.

http://dantedreams.com <-my webcomic



Nothing in the IMDB thread I saw suggested that he recanted.

I'm staying clear of the Orson Scott Card stuff. I don't wanna know nuttin.

p.s. Jewel is a sweetie. I think that guy's just jealous of Matt. Lucky dog ( Matt )

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 12:46 PM

SIMONWHO


Quote:

Originally posted by Knibblet:

You weren't paying attention then. There was a huge pulsating flame war on this site concerning Orson Scott Card. You might want to check the archived threads.



I was one of the one's with a flame thrower in my hand. Not particularly pleased with how it went or how I presented myself which is why I'm not getting into it again. I took note of the general attitude and, well, decided not to touch on the subject again.

You can't really read up on the flamewar because the posts got deleted or were self-deleted.

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 1:24 PM

DARKJESTER


No, Orson Scott Card is not gay. Some people believe that since he tries to be a good Mormon, and follow his Church's teachings, he must be a raving homophobic fag-hater. And he has said in more than one article that he believes homosexuality is a sin. But if you read his work, you get another picture. One of tolerance, to say the least.

There are some who refuse to read his books because of the views he supposedly holds. And I think that they are missing out on a very talented and engrossing author.


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JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 1:36 PM

SIMONWHO


Must...not...get...into...this...again...

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 2:54 PM

THEGREYJEDI


Easy Simon. Down boy. And all the rest of you can chill, too. It boils down to this. Someone can have admirable talent but (to you or me) unadmirable opinions. For example. Most rock stars, past and present, weren't big on morality, no taking drugs, etc. etc. Does that mean that I stop listening to Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd or Pearl jam or Nirvana or Audioslave or Queens of the Stone Age because I don't like a thing they said or a thing they did? No. Because they're still very talented, and the art they create appeals to me. I can't stand Tom Cruise as a person, but I think he's made some good movies. Same for Russel Crowe, who, as I understand it, is a complete asshole of the highest order.

And to be on topic, IMDB guy is a douche(used) and a troll(unbathed).

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 4:22 PM

DANTE144


Peace Browncoats, peace!

We have quarrel enough with the alliance foes!


The guy recanted. He took it back and erased what he said from the imdb board in multiple places.


"Jesus saves, everyone else takes damage" -tee shirt some girl was wearing at Megacon.

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 6:22 PM

JACQUI


The guy did recant, he apologised (in a separate "Public apology to Jewel Staite") thread, and erased most of the inflamatory remarks.

A nicer idea, I thought (and was too late to start it myself, but I continued it), was not to keep rehashing it, but write a message for Jewel, supporting her.

Obviously she reads the IMDB, or someone points it out to her, so hopefully they'll point this one out to...

Add a really nice message and make her day...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0821612/board/flat/23915631

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Tuesday, August 9, 2005 7:14 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Well, at least he was a man about it and owned up...

Now I gotta put all these blasted pitchforks and torches back, bah!

Was gonna get me a ear, too!

-F

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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:08 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Glad to see the guy admits he made a mistake and apologized publically for it.

Guess I will have to retract my earlier statement that this person is a troll.

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Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

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Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:51 PM

BROWNCOATFAN1


how stupid could one person be. he dosent even know her or have proof.

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