Dumbest Line in Firefly by YT

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Originally posted by YT:
War Stories: Book (to Zoe & Jayne): "From the look of these wounds I'd say a 54R sniper rifle. Laser sights."

YT, a 54R sniper rifle w/out laser sights would invariably be locked on auto-fire to nail victims from a distance. He had one single hole in him; therefore the laser sight assumption.
Duh.

Weapons master Chrisisall

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by Saint Jayne:

So I'd have to say my "dumbest line" is in Ariel when Simon uses a defibrillator on a flat-line patient and drugs him up when he goes into ventricular tachycardia. That's backwards.

Backwards in MOST instances, yes. But that patient had recent surgery AND ventricular seizures; reversing the proceedure, while risky, is the only alternative to death.
Duh.

Dr. Chrisisall, PHD

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:09 AM

There ARE no dumb lines in Firefly, only dumb interpretations of genius writing.

Chrisisall, keeper o' the Faith

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:25 AM

TMURRIE

I agree that there are no dumb lines in Firefly, and you really just don't get it. But if I have to give an example it would be when in The Train Job Jayne is laughing about what Wash said about blowing a new crater in this little moon, it seemed out of character because I could never see Jayne laughing at anything Wash says.

But besides that tiny weenie thing I have, the whole show is just great, right down to the crappy protein rations

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:03 PM

SAINT JAYNE

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
There ARE no dumb lines in Firefly, only dumb interpretations of genius writing.

=) Your point is taken. Better to infer a situation where the dialogue is right and good rather than to stamp our feet and say how bad it is.

For some of us, this sort of thing is entertaining, though, and we are in the position of having so few shows to appreciate, that our analysis can get quite granular. This thread is clearly for the nit-pickers, so pick away!

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by tmurrie:
I could never see Jayne laughing at anything Wash says.

Jayne wasn't laughing at what Wash said, he was laughing at how STUPID those pro-Alliance dopes were believin' what Wash said about being able to shoot anything with an unarmed transport.
Duh.

Jayne expert Chrisisall

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:08 PM

Warning: Anything nit-picked can be easily shot down by me; I can explain away everything, even why there is gravity on a ship w/no power (see: Out Of Gas).

You been warned

Chrisisall

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by dietcoke:
To call someone a "granpa" is an insult. It's like referring to someone as "old man." Book, instead of saying something equality nasty back, he slyly smiles and simple says: "I never married." i.e. I AM NOT A GRANPA! Dumbass!

Well said, Dietcoke!

You forgot the 'Duh'.

Nopickinonmyshow Chrisisall

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 1:11 PM

SAINT JAYNE

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Warning: Anything nit-picked can be easily shot down by me; I can explain away everything

I don't know if I'd call it explaining. LOL If you're a zealot, at least you're fighting for the right side.

Now pardon me, I have to go find 10 Firefly converts to make up for my slander.

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 1:29 PM

We all live in the same 'Verse, my brother

Zealotious Chrisisall

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:08 PM

WHISPER

While I love everything about Firefly, there has always been one word that has bugged me. It was from ep Serenity and was the word "humped." It just sounds stupid. Everyone that I have shown the series to have laughed at that line, saying how stupid the word was.

That's my only nitpick but i've since gotten used to it and don't roll my eyes at it anymore.

www.whispergraphics.net

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:54 PM

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Originally posted by Whisper:
"humped." It just sounds stupid. Everyone that I have shown the series to have laughed at that line,

That, I believe, was the point.

Humped Chrisisall

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:20 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Gnarsh:
"Let's moon 'em." from the beginning of the pilot.

Just a stupid line.

Man, you folk are off your nut! What's that big glowy thing at the hind end of Serenity? It's what makes a Firefly a FIREFLY! "Let's moon 'em". It's a PERFECT Jayne sort of thing tosay, and it also describes them showing their back side to the Alliance as they haul the heck out of there.

I think some of you are just picking out random lines to cause controversy for the hell of it. Shame shame shame!

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:32 PM

BLUEBOMBER

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I can explain away everything, even why there is gravity on a ship w/no power (see: Out Of Gas).

Huh! Now that you mention it....why IS there gravity on the ship when there's no power?

"Mwah ha ha ha...mine is an evil laugh. Now die."

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:49 PM

REALLYKAYLEE

the best way to make a line dumb (but funny) is to add "in my pants"
EX: "you're going to the special hell" - in my pants!
"we're still flying" - in my pants!

really quite fun and everyone should go through the eps and do this- it's mighty shiny!

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:57 PM

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Huh! Now that you mention it....why IS there gravity on the ship when there's no power?

For the same reason there're still lights and communications with other ships. Batteries.

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 4:01 PM

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Defibrillators are only used when the heart is beating dangerously fast, like slapping a panicked person in the face and shouting "get a hold of yourself!" They're useless with a flat-line, for which first choice is drugs (epi, calcium, misc. drug of the future). I have heard of ACLS (Advanced Cardiac Life Support) certified people using defib paddles on flat-line patients, but only when no better course of action is available, and because there's nothing to lose.

Sorry, but you DO use a defibrillator on a patient with no heartbeat. The whole there's-no-liability-for-a-civilian-using-an-AED argument is that a person with no heartbeat is legally dead, therefore no liability attaches if there's an adverse effect from applying an AED.

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 6:13 PM

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While I love everything about Firefly, there has always been one word that has bugged me. It was from ep Serenity and was the word "humped." It just sounds stupid. Everyone that I have shown the series to have laughed at that line, saying how stupid the word was.

I take it you've never had an un-neutered male dog "hump" your leg. As in: mimic having sexual intercourse with your leg. Dogs also hump each other to establish pack hierarchy. The Alpha dog won't let any dog hump him, the #2 dog will only let the Alpha hump him, etc.

The censors won't let Wash say, "We are SO f**ked" on tv.

Made perfect sense to me.

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 6:17 PM

GNARSH

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Man, you folk are off your nut! What's that big glowy thing at the hind end of Serenity? It's what makes a Firefly a FIREFLY! "Let's moon 'em". It's a PERFECT Jayne sort of thing tosay, and it also describes them showing their back side to the Alliance as they haul the heck out of there.

I think some of you are just picking out random lines to cause controversy for the hell of it. Shame shame shame!

I know the line makes perfect sense. That's not why I don't like it. It's not so much the line itself as it's the delivery. I don't like unnecessary closeups. The line would have been much better if it had just been said in passing, without focusing everything on Jayne, in my humble opinion.

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:47 PM

STATIC

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Originally posted by manwithpez:

"There's a little saying amongst people like us...Leave no man behind." *chambers round*

The reason this line bugs the crud out of me is because that is NOT a saying amongst people like THEM.

THEY are smugglers, thieves and ne'er-do-wells.

"Leave no man behind." is the credo of the US Army Rangers, the Marine Corps Force Recon and other military Special Operations units that deal in death on a regular basis. It's why when one of them falls in battle, they grab up their buddy's body and bring it home.

Honor among soldiers . . .NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES.

Yes, I realize that our bunch of folks are not your typical criminals, but they ARE criminals.

Maybe Wash should've said, "There's a saying that applies to most of us ON THIS SHIP."

But to say "people like us" is not accurate. Remember. . .for our crew, "people like us" includes the pirate crew that tried to steal Serenity in OOG.

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:41 PM

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same

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Originally posted by Daelus:
"You're a rabbit, Mal!"

Oh, wait. There's a chance that's not the actual line..

RonFLmFAO. OK, you win. Is it bad that I sometimes turn subtitles on @that point in the Message, just to see that line?

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . .

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Monday, August 29, 2005 12:10 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Gnarsh:
Quote:
Man, you folk are off your nut! What's that big glowy thing at the hind end of Serenity? It's what makes a Firefly a FIREFLY! "Let's moon 'em". It's a PERFECT Jayne sort of thing tosay, and it also describes them showing their back side to the Alliance as they haul the heck out of there.

I think some of you are just picking out random lines to cause controversy for the hell of it. Shame shame shame!

I know the line makes perfect sense. That's not why I don't like it. It's not so much the line itself as it's the delivery. I don't like unnecessary closeups. The line would have been much better if it had just been said in passing, without focusing everything on Jayne, in my humble opinion.

After official review, your call is not w/ out merrit. I could go either way on this one.

That damn movie better hurry up and get here. I think we've run out of things to talk about.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, August 29, 2005 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by BlueBomber:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I can explain away everything, even why there is gravity on a ship w/no power (see: Out Of Gas).

Huh! Now that you mention it....why IS there gravity on the ship when there's no power?

All cargo and transport ships are constructed with an exotic element yet to be discovered that exerts a gravitational pull to simulate gravity on board. It does not require power, except to negate it's effects (As in the pilot when they were bringing cargo in from space, Mal clearly pushed a button to cut off the gravity-negation field to drop the crates on the floor).
Lights are backed up by bio-luminecence, a loss of power and those little critters glow something fierce, almost as bright as the real thing.

YFC Chrisisall

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Monday, August 29, 2005 12:12 PM

ZEEK

Sadly I don't know the line word for word but it's in Safe. During a flashback where they talk about Simon's great job in "capitol city". I aways cringe at that. What is this, The Simpsons? I know they can come up with a fake name. Blah blah they want you to know it's the capitol. I don't care it still sounds dumb.

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Monday, August 29, 2005 12:39 PM

SHORNY

In Shindig- what Mal says about Kaylee in the pink dress- "What would you do in that rig? Flounce around the engine room? Be like a sheep walkin' on its hind legs."

But then again maybe it's a great line and I just don't get it.

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Monday, August 29, 2005 2:06 PM

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In Shindig- what Mal says about Kaylee in the pink dress- "What would you do in that rig? Flounce around the engine room? Be like a sheep walkin' on its hind legs."

But then again maybe it's a great line and I just don't get it.

Actually, it is a great line. A full skirted dress would be downright dangerous in the engine room, probably get caught on moving parts. BTW--Sheep walk on all fours. Send me your address and I'll send you a sheep. You can see for yourself.

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Monday, August 29, 2005 2:13 PM

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Originally posted by Daelus:
"You're a rabbit, Mal!"

Oh, wait. There's a chance that's not the actual line..

I wear headphones whenever I watch DVDs, and that is the actual line.

He did call Mal a rabbit, kinda like in a "You're chicken, a yellabelly traitor" sorta way. Rabbits and chickens respond to a threat the same way, (RUN!), the rabbit is just a bit faster than the bird.

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Monday, August 29, 2005 2:18 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I can explain away everything, even why there is gravity on a ship w/no power (see: Out Of Gas).
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Huh! Now that you mention it....why IS there gravity on the ship when there's no power?
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All cargo and transport ships are constructed with an exotic element yet to be discovered that exerts a gravitational pull to simulate gravity on board. It does not require power, except to negate it's effects (As in the pilot when they were bringing cargo in from space, Mal clearly pushed a button to cut off the gravity-negation field to drop the crates on the floor).
Lights are backed up by bio-luminecence, a loss of power and those little critters glow something fierce, almost as bright as the real thing.

I vote we cut some of these with Occam's Razor.

My fossil-fuel burning clunker of a car has lights, air and RADIO when the engine's not running because it has a battery .

Serenity frequently needs all systems running when the engines are off and she's not docked at a spaceport. Everything works while the engines are off while the ship's on Triumph, St. Albans and on whatever moon the Heart O' Gold is on.

If you leave the engines running to power ship's systems, people get slurped in and that makes them (or their next of kin) all manner of techy.

Actually, do I get a vote?

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Monday, August 29, 2005 2:27 PM

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Originally posted by dietcoke:

To call someone a "granpa" is an insult. It's like referring to someone as "old man." Book, instead of saying something equality nasty back, he slyly smiles and simple says: "I never married." i.e. I AM NOT A GRANPA! Dumbass!

In China and other Asian countries, "Grandfather" is a sign of repect, when said to an older man (like Book) who the speaker is not related to.

It means that the old man was fortunate to survive long enough to see his children live long enough to have children of their own.

Since China and America have mixed together, "grandpa" is no longer an insult, mearly another way of saying "Sir". Book, after living in an Abbey for so long, probably would've forgotten that, or never learned that it meant more than "somebody with decendants".

Of course calling a kid "granpa" kind of insulting.

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Monday, August 29, 2005 2:38 PM

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Originally posted by R1Z:

I vote we cut some of these with Occam's Razor.

My fossil-fuel burning clunker of a car has lights, air and RADIO when the engine's not running because it has a battery .

Serenity frequently needs all systems running when the engines are off and she's not docked at a spaceport. Everything works while the engines are off while the ship's on Triumph, St. Albans and on whatever moon the Heart O' Gold is on.

If you leave the engines running to power ship's systems, people get slurped in and that makes them (or their next of kin) all manner of techy.

Actually, do I get a vote?

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

That makes sense. havin' A/G on battery backup. No gravity would be incredibly dangerous in a ship that was'nt built to be without it. It would make repairs almost impossible. Hell. they'd be dead before they even got to the engine room.

Plus, the writers did'nt want to have Nathan hangin' from a wire harness for two weeks

while they shot the episode.

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Monday, August 29, 2005 2:40 PM