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Originally posted by Ax:
Gosh, I'm REALLY getting tired of everyone trying to argue that Buffy and Angel were bad shows. Fine--not your cup of tea or whatever. I can deal with that, but then you've got to go and compare it "garbage".

Your argument is that the horror genre is 'done', and that all those shows are was pretty people with cheesy lines. I'm here to say this is just silly. First of all genres aren't ever 'done'. That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. Firefly, quite honestly, is proof of that. I hear people saying that Westerns are dead, or sci-fi is dead all the time. So long as people have different perspectives from one another it doesn't matter how many times the same story is told--because it's the author's perspective that makes something original.

You remember that amazing scene at the end of "The Train Job" where Mal kicks the baddie into the engine right in the middle of his rant? Remember how awsome it was to see Joss turn the whole action convention right on it's head? Well, Joss did the same thing on Buffy and Angel.

Maybe those shows didn't click with you, but they used the same conventions

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