Just my opinion. . . by Static

I want a new series. I'd love sequels. . .but I want a new series. . .even if it is...

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Without Wash and Book

I want everyone to remember. . .JOSS NEVER SAID he wouldn't return to TV. He said, and I QUOTE (I still have the SDCC thing on my comp)

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After seeing it on the big screen, it's hard to picture it on the small screen again.

I believe that was his gentle way of saying, "Don't hold your breath." in regards to FOX letting go of the rights. However, I heard some rumorage that said FOX threw a couple of figures out there if 'Versal wants to buy those rights.

I want a new series. I want to see Serenity fly every week. Sci-Fi Friday can start at 7:00...that's fine with me.

Joss. . .please?

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Monday, October 10, 2005 4:13 AM

As much as I'd like more Firefly on a weekly (hell, even a MONTHLY) basis, I don't see it happening. And after seein' the BDM, I'm not so sure I'd want to- our BDH's are too big for mere TV now, I think...

Could you see a Star Wars TV series after Jedi?

TV was Joss' High School, and he's graduated...

Good old days Chrisisall

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Monday, October 10, 2005 4:29 AM

See, that's the thing. . .I think the only thing that makes a star 'too big for TV' is that particular star's attitude.

Think about it. . .there are plenty of stars that were small AND big hits on the big screen that went to TV, or bounced back and forth. . .

Michael J. Fox
Charlie Sheen
Bill Cosby
Tim Allen
Martin Sheen
Kiefer Sutherland
Benjamin Bratt

For folks like that, it's less about WANTING the work or NEEDING the work as it is about LOVING the work...and I think that if there's anyone in the 'verse who LOVES the work, it's our heroes...and they LOVE "Firefly/Serenity".

God bless Alan for moving on to other things, maybe even bigger and better.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 4:44 AM

Oops, I need to clarify...
I mean our heroes, and their stories are too big for the small screen.
Nathan and the rest are good folk, well above bein' snooty and too good for TV!

Personally, I'd like three or four TV movies a year, high quality AND more episodes/ the best of both worlds!

45 minutes ain't enough anymore Chrisisall

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Monday, October 10, 2005 4:54 AM

I think this is the third or fourth time you and I have kept a thread exclusively to ourselves. . .maybe we should just start calling each other.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 6:41 AM

Let's start the 'Static and Chrisisall Only' thread (lol)

Since it's just us...
The only real problem I had with the BDM was no Greg Edmonson music, I felt it was really NEEDED in some scenes, particularly the ending!!

How about you, any thing you see needed changin'?

Chrisisall

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Monday, October 10, 2005 6:47 AM

At the risk of sounding like one of our more 'whiny' brethren. . .I think they could've kept Wash alive.

I think Mr. Universe was a bit of a 'God in the machine' kind of character, but well done.

http://burstsofstatic.blogspot.com

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Monday, October 10, 2005 6:54 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Ha! I crush your two-hander thread!

The problem I see with a TV series is the cost is too much for Sci-Fi, but maybe not as a mini-maxi series a la Sopranos? Sensibly they could build the budget to include the DVD sales so even if the show doesn't do stellar enough numbers, it will turn a profit or break even, and funding 13 rather than 22 eps might be easier to deal with.

Also, gives the BDH time for other projects - after all, James Gandolfini is hardly on the silver screen since he started playing big Tony

As to the music - I kind of liked it, the first burst of the theme really worked for me (and that was second viewing, so wasn't just the Big Damn Ship on the Big Damn Screen).

"I threw up on your bed"

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Monday, October 10, 2005 7:08 AM

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Originally posted by Misguided By Voices:The problem I see with a TV series is the cost is too much for Sci-Fi...

I've seen this mentioned elsewhere and keep wondering what is was about Firefly that would be so much more expensive than BSG to produce - they appear to me to be very similar in terms of cast/sets/locations. I think your BSG strategy: 13 shows then BAM! dvd sales, is the perfect fit for Firefly, the king of TV DVD sales. And there's that scifi universal connection too...

Hey, four hands now, we could play euchre! Or not...

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.net

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Monday, October 10, 2005 7:14 AM

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Originally posted by Static:
I think they could've kept Wash alive.

That would've been the way I went, but I'm not Joss.
I guess I'm desperate: I'll take brilliance any way I can get it.

Hey! More peeps on the thread!

Chrisisall down wit dat

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Monday, October 10, 2005 7:17 AM

VERASNEWOWNER

I'd like this idea.

I'd like a regular dose of Firefly on a weekly/monthly basis rather than a movie every few years.

And the mini series idea has been discussed with Star Trek, Star Wars etc etc so i dont see why they wouldnt consider it. I wouldnt mind having 3 or 4 hour longs every six months to a year.

Besides, i dont think the actors are that pompous to think themselves 'too big for TV now', their bigger than that.

Chris

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Monday, October 10, 2005 7:33 AM

SICKDUDE

IMHO, I personally like TV more than movies. I was a little not-completely-happy with Joss when he made the statement about movies only from now on.

This is the classic Hollywood mindframe. Movies are where the good story-telling is. But that's based on 'old' TV, that which is entirely episodic and limited to one-hour where you have to be right back where you began by the end. TV is more and more getiing to be about arcs and on-going stories. 18 hours per year of devoleping story and characters, as oppsosed to just two. And Joss should know this considering his work creating Buffy and Angel.

I say Firefly/Serenity is too big for the big screen, and deserves to be on TV again!!!

"Don't say 'ka' until you've tried it." Daniel Jackson

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Monday, October 10, 2005 10:11 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

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Originally posted by Sickdude:
IMHO, I personally like TV more than movies. I was a little not-completely-happy with Joss when he made the statement about movies only from now on.

I say Firefly/Serenity is too big for the big screen, and deserves to be on TV again!!!

"Don't say 'ka' until you've tried it." Daniel Jackson

Me, I think a great film has something that TV doesn't - the shared experience. Sure, you can watch eps with friends, even large groups, but by and large the TV ep invites *you* in on the lives of the characters for 44 minutes. The cinema screen links the audience for two hours as they laugh and cry together - multiplying reactions and emotions.

I like 'em both - and I'll take that level of writing and acting on whatever cathode ray/digital projector combo you want to shove in my veins.

"I threw up on your bed"

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Monday, October 10, 2005 2:26 PM

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Originally posted by Misguided By Voices:
Me, I think a great film has something that TV doesn't - the shared experience.

I'm finding that to be less and less of a plus, from cell phone screens lighting up the theater at regular intervals to couples groping (puh-lease!) to incessant chatter, to the 20 minutes of pre-movie ads and garbage... it's about 50/50 versus a dvd on my 65" lcd.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.net

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:28 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
I'm finding that to be less and less of a plus, from cell phone screens lighting up the theater at regular intervals to couples groping (puh-lease!) to incessant chatter, to the 20 minutes of pre-movie ads and garbage... it's about 50/50 versus a dvd on my 65" lcd.

True - sometimes you just wish for a laser sight and a sniper rifle with a silencer (so as not to ruin the movie for those being polite - of course you'd have to be careful that the red dot didn't show up on the screen - downright rude).

"I threw up on your bed"

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
the 20 minutes of pre-movie ads and garbage...

I found that all those ads, commercials and previews made me feel like I was watchin' a big TV in the theatre!
Kinda like watchin' Firefly in days of old...

What's TV without commercials Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:52 AM

SPINLAND

I'd love to see the mini-series concept explored here. Just think of the work Joss could do with 3-5 episode arcs, filmed in batches, strung out over who-cares-how-long for production time. Methinks that should be the future of any and all arc-driven shows anyway.

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"That's what governments are for, [to] get in a man's way." -- Malcolm Reynolds

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:08 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Ok I don't wanna pee on anyones chips here, but Nathan and Summer were on GMTV here in the UK and the question was asked about where can it go from here [ in ref to after SERENITY] and Nathan chirped that he'd like:

"A trilogy and that at the end of the trilogy his character be killed off, so that no-one else could play Mal Reynolds...."

Then Summer looked at him sweet like and said :
"I'll kill ya..." and smiled delicately and patted his knee, kinda sweet in a way....

But anyway it's by no means official or anything, just the way Nathan would want it. Dunno if this has any bearing on things but I thought it interesting that he's thinking this way...

But I'm with Chrisisall's idea of quality TV movies. 45 mins isn't enough, not anymore.

The
Somnambulist

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:12 AM

I agree completly- it's the best way to go, and I say so every time it's brought up.
Some kids here might not remember that shows like The Six Million Dollar Man started off with a pilot, and then had bi-monthly TV movies for a while, and it worked great! It was only when the hour/weekly show started that TSMDM turned to crap. 22 episodes in a year is too much to have to crank out, however, one two-hour movie every two years is torture to wait for!!!

Then there's the Battlestar Galactica route- 13 eps per season-(in effect, one 10 hour movie every year)- I could definitly live with that, too.

Chrisisall and his two credit's worth

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:45 AM

SMAUG

Well.. anything could be possible. If you have seen the vidoes at IESB from Joss and crew (most but not all of them) from Wizard Con (or something like that) back in March. The question was asked if they would consider doing the TV show again if the opportunity turned up. And the Jewel practically yelled yes before the question was even finished being asked. Followed very closely by all of them.

You have to remember.. anything may or may not come to pass.. but the fact is.. they all LOVED doing this show. They all knew they were doing someing incredible.. and that is part of the reason that the show is so damn good. Now if they have to choose between a $5 million dollar or more paycheck to do something else or do another season of Firefly for significantly less.. then you can't fault them for doing what is best for their own interest/careers. Althought how incredible would it be to find out that one of them turned down a much bigger ayday in order to do Firefly season two????

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:17 AM

NEEDLESEYE

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Then there's the Battlestar Galactica route- 13 eps per season-(in effect, one 10 hour movie every year)- I could definitly live with that, too.

Um, yes. Me too.

Keeper of Jayne's goggles. 8)

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:47 AM

CHRONICTHEHEDGEHOG

Not sure if you know or not but

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/051009d.php

The upcoming Star Wars TV series...

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 3:23 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Then there's the Battlestar Galactica route- 13 eps per season-(in effect, one 10 hour movie every year)- I could definitly live with that, too.

Extra double super agree. There are so many pluses:
A. It's proven.
B. The whole Uni/scifi connection (I know I know F*x and tv rights... Jayne'll have to bust a few kneecaps, np).
C. Say... that number is familiar... ain't that about as many eps as done originally for FF? How about that...
D. More DVDs more sooner. Fans have already proven to have the intensity of a Reaver

for a human biscuit

when it comes to dvd buying.
E. I've asked elsewhere about one of the stumbling blocks I've seen mentioned that I don't quite understand, "The FF eps were too expensive to produce..." Looking at the 2 shows, FF and BSG, I can only see similarities in costs and not wide differences, from cast to sets to special effects, anything I'm missing?

"Zoe, get the mule ready, we're going to talk to the suits at uni..."

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
anything I'm missing?

Not that I can see!

Need...more...Serenity...already...Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 4:21 PM