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Originally posted by DonCoat:
Given the fact that I find the compromises in Serenity to be minor and acceptable, I'd instantly opt for three movies.

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
Given the fact that I find the compromises in Serenity to be minor and acceptable, I'd instantly opt for three movies.

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Agreed. I saw nothing I would really consider an unacceptable compromise in Serenity.

I also think that the story of Serenity is such a great one that I want it shared with everyone, if that means bending a bit to accomodate people who are not familiar w/ Firefly than I am okay w/ that.

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Given the fact that I find the compromises in Serenity to be minor and acceptable, I'd instantly opt for three movies.

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Originally posted by RocketJock:
What some folks are forgetting is that Firefly itself was a result of several compromises--such things as lightening Mal's character from that seen in the pilot.

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Originally posted by Haze:
Serenity is a good movie...
So I put forward the question again would you have rather seen one Firefly movie that was made just for the fans but would do noting in the box-office or what we have a somewhat compromised movie for Joe and Jane public that will most likely lead to two sequels? (and despite the doom and gloom that’s around im convinced it will)


Who do you suppose is in there?

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Originally posted by Grounded:
I suspect the number of people who have played Final Fantasy VII to the point that they don't need the back story explained is a lot higher than the number of people who have seen Firefly all the way through ;)

Besides, I'd agree that the compromises in Serenity are minimal.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
(WARNING: sour-puss alert; still pretty frustrated with the movie.)

I'm kinda incredulous how folk have swallowed this "dumbing down" of Firefly as necessary to insure a good box office take. Hello? What box office take? What make's y'all think a more adult, more complex, less wise-crack-a-minute Firefly movie would have done any worse than Serenity has?

And furthermore, I sure don't think any, ANY of the first twenty minutes of exposition served non-fans of Firefly. Alien didn't need any, Pitch Black didn't need any. There are all kinds of movies about small, quirky groups of people lost in some terrible situation that tell an excellent story and make you want to see more of the characters with minimal exposition. Half the fun of such a movie is figuring out what the relationships between the different characters are. Nobody wants or needs a connect-the-dots. All the exposition did was take away any of the surprise of finding out who these people are; and remind all the non-fans in the audience that there was a t.v. show once where all these people had really complicated relationships that, I'm sorry, we can't really go into here, but we can give you a taste. The very title of the movie is bad for business unless you're a giant fan! The gorram title! That's supposed to be the sellingest thing about a movie and Joss wasted it on the fans! Call the thing "Into the Black" and tell a good story about Reavers. If we get to know the characters along the way, fine, if some remain under developed, tell folk to get the Firefly DVD.

The way I see it, with Serenity Joss was trying to serve too many masters. Firefly was the best t.v. show ever aired, EVER! Of course a movie based on it is gonna have a lot going for it.

Look at it this way: not too long ago, every intelligent person I knew dismissed t.v. as the lowest form of life. Then Firefly came along and changed that perception for all of us (you know, 'cept folks that loved Buffy and Angel already).

So now, every browncoat and his brother is defending the so-called "decision" to sex up the t.v. show for its cinematic debut. Taking a uniquely intelligent and subtle work of art and turning it into a more or less crowd pleasing funhouse ride. How is it that folks who have seen conventional t.v. wisdom turned on its head by a visionary artist, defend that same artist when he panders to a mass audience because "that's what movies are about?" Seriously, do you think film is a more conservative medium than t.v.???

Batman Begins was a huge hit, single handedly revitalizing a moribund franchise--a franchise, I might add, dumbed down and sexed up nearly out of existence; and did it by extensively downplaying the sensational subject matter, exploring very adult moral themes with subtle characterization and one decidedly dark anti-hero at its center. The thing was ostensibly a superhero movie but it played like a bio-pic and made big $$$ at the box office.

In short, Firefly was groundbreaking--and sold like hot cakes on DVD; can anyone honestly say Serenity in its own right was groundbreaking? Aside from being the capper to the best t.v. show ever, at best it's a quirky high-energy B-movie that just enough folks will see to get the sequels greenlit.

The pilot of the t.v. series suffered because it took too long to get down to business. That's a real problem with a t.v. show, 'cause if you don't immediately grab folks, they're liable to turn the channel. Movies can afford to be a little more mysterious, a little more leisurely setting everything up because they have a captive audience who will be remembering the slam-bam ending more than the quiet start. I seriously wonder if simply giving the original Serenity a theatrical release, maybe with a CGI face lift and the like, wouldn't have done as well as Serenity the movie. We all would have gone, and non-fans wouldn't have felt left out.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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