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Originally posted by VisitingMyIntentions:
We Firefly folk are all believers (dangerous...), but we all know the time has come for a great schism, between those who accept the BDM as canon and those who do not.

I think rather than fight on points that for the large part aren't arguable, we should acknowledge those differences formally. Hence I am proud to declare the first new branch. We don't have a name yet (any ideas?), but we do have our articles of faith:

1.) Firefly is divine, and Joss is its prophet.
2.) The series, the R. Tam sessions, and the deleted scene from OMR are true canon.
3) Shooting scripts and Dead or Alive could be argued for.
4.) The BDM and the Dark Horse comics are NOT canon.
(I haven't seen the RPG yet, so I don't know about that.)
5.) FOX is the anti-Joss.

Now I declare every single person who does not agree with me a heretic, doomed to an afterlife where every single good show is mistreated then summarily cancelled by FOX network.

Anyone want to join my sect, or form another, so we can have religious wars and inquisitions and all that fun?

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
Can't we all just get along?

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Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.

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1.) Firefly is divine, and Joss is its prophet.

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Originally posted by VisitingMyIntentions:
We Firefly folk are all believers (dangerous...), but we all know the time has come for a great schism, between those who accept the BDM as canon and those who do not.

I think rather than fight on points that for the large part aren't arguable, we should acknowledge those differences formally. Hence I am proud to declare the first new branch. We don't have a name yet (any ideas?), but we do have our articles of faith:

1.) Firefly is divine, and Joss is its prophet.
2.) The series, the R. Tam sessions, and the deleted scene from OMR are true canon.
3) Shooting scripts and Dead or Alive could be argued for.
4.) The BDM and the Dark Horse comics are NOT canon.
(I haven't seen the RPG yet, so I don't know about that.)
5.) FOX is the anti-Joss.

Now I declare every single person who does not agree with me a heretic, doomed to an afterlife where every single good show is mistreated then summarily cancelled by FOX network.

Anyone want to join my sect, or form another, so we can have religious wars and inquisitions and all that fun?

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The comics & "Serenity" are not canon? That's go sa my friend. Denying something you don't like don't make it any less real. It's Joss' 'verse & we are just visiting.

If accepting the comics & BDM makes me a heretic than call me a heretic.

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Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org

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Originally posted by VisitingMyIntentions:
... and the deleted scene from OMR are true canon.

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Originally posted by VisitingMyIntentions:
... and the deleted scene from OMR are true canon.

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There's a deleted scene from Our Mrs Reynolds?? I'm sitting here in my Firefly jammies with my orange hat sipping coffee from my "Nothing In The 'Verse can Stop Me!" coffee mug and you're tellin' me there's a clip out there I haven't seen??!! GIVE!

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Originally posted by VisitingMyIntentions:
... and the deleted scene from OMR are true canon.

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There's a deleted scene from Our Mrs Reynolds??

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It's in the special features of the DVD set, along with the rest deleted scenes.

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:

The comics & "Serenity" are not canon? That's go sa my friend. Denying something you don't like don't make it any less real. It's Joss' 'verse & we are just visiting.

If accepting the comics & BDM makes me a heretic than call me a heretic.

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I'm with my fellow VA Browncoat on this one. Just because part of the fanbase dislikes Serenity doesn't make it any less Joss's vision for the 'verse. In fact, I think it's MORE Joss's vision than the show was, thanks to less MEDDLING from execs. Mal was more the way Mal was supposed to be (TV Mal would have never left that guy to the Reavers)etc. etc.

So, On On Inquistion! (no one expects the Browncoats' Inquisition!)

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Originally posted by Sevren:
I know I've not been around these parts for very long, but I had to stopp and say something. Everyone is of course entitled to their opinion. I would in fact be quite concerend if everyone around here echoed the same thoughts and opinions. I would however, warn against splintering the forces of the Browncoats. Right now, unity if far more important than trying to identify what is canon and what is not. It's not like this movie was Highlander 2 (in relation to its continuity to the first movie, not the rest. ok, maybe that's not the best example). I don't see a lot of hard evidence that makes the movie contradict the series or the comics. They all came from the same source, and he knows where this is going (storywise) better than any of us. But I'm not going to force feed my humble opinion on anyone else. I just think that we will all suffer should your schism take place.

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Originally posted by belasera:
The term "Joss written fanfic" is insane. Truly, you must see that.
If we're talking canon, anything with the name of Joss on it is canon,

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Originally posted by pyrefx:
by that reasoning, you'd be condemning the last episode of the series too. You-know-who went splitsville before the movie. If anything you should be praising the movie for bringing you-know-who back.

*slaps on my ruttin' Heretic hat* it may not have a fuzzy ball on top, but it's got horns, and that's cool too.

"I call her Vera."

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Originally posted by Jynk:
So much for that "quiet reflection" Joss wanted from people who didn't like the movie. People, if you didn't like it...do as Joss asked and stfu. You're hurting the movie and making the fanbase look bad. Stop fighting and bashing each other and the movie.

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Originally posted by VisitingMyIntentions:
Honestly, though, I was just writing humorously in response to everybody arguing whenever responses to the movie came up. I thought taking it to the ridiculous stage of declaring sects would let us acknowledge we were ridiculous to blame others having simply another fundamental set of criteria, and stop people taking it too serious and leaving snide comments about who was the brownest browncoat of them all.

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