MESSAGE FOR UK/EU FIREFLY DVD BUYERS by Howard

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MESSAGE FOR UK/EU FIREFLY DVD BUYERS

POSTED BY: HOWARD
UPDATED: Friday, October 21, 2005 17:01
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Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:01 AM

I understand you may not all have Kaylee's engineering skills but...

PLEASE UNDERSTAND the science of video and that if you want FIREFLY and SERENITY in its native form running at the original in-camera speed
BUY REGION 1 and NOT European R2 or Aussie R4.

Yes it is nice that FIREFLY is number 7 at AMAZON.CO.UK but I wish UK buyers would be more intelligent and buy the REGION 1 60HZ edition of FIREFLY instead of the incorrect REGION 2 50hz version. AMAZON.CO.UK even sells via third party dealers the US issue. It could not be easier.
The better version is only about £2:50 more!!
So give your PAL REGION 2 or Aussie R4 FIREFLY DVD set to a friend or work colleague and get yourself the Region 1 edition.

here is the link

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AQS0F/qid=1129231670/sr=
1-2/ref=sr_1_8_2/026-3414769-6002022

dvd legacy and bestpriceCD are the best choices in the third party dealer list.

I live in Manchester and would not dream of buying a US produced TV show on R2.
I play FIREFLY REGION 1 back in component 24frame progressive scan onto my projector screen and its glorious. Even if you are playing back in interlaced via a Y/C or composite lead you are still getting the advantage of the correct running speed that gives you speaking voices and music without a speed up. Plus warmer colour and more stable image. If you are not sure if your TV does pure NTSC it does not have to. You can always go into your REGION 2/REGION 4 DVD player and select PAL 60 within the main menu of your DVD player's default menus (it should give you three choices PAL/NTSC/PAL 60 once it is in PAL 60 you can just leave it. This retains the 60hz running while translating the colour from NTSC to PAL for a PAL only TV.

If however you have a PLASMA or LCD panel as with projectors, projection TV's and most good CRT sets sold in Europe you will be able to do pure NTSC and find that the HUE or TINT control is active on both the TV and the DVD player which does not function in PAL.

If you are not a manual adjuster type person and not sure how to balance the NTSC image after a life time of PAL then just go for PAL60 option.
Playing it back pure is better but PAL60 still gives very good results.

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:21 AM

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Can I ask you a related question? I live in Ireland and have a regular old tv. I bought the Region 1 Wonderfalls Box Set which I play on my dvd player(which I was able to turn into a multi-region player ), but I noticed that the speed is not quite right and since you seem to know what your talkin about could you tell me how I correct this? I only half-grasped the meaning of your post so could you put it in laymen's terms please?
Thanks very much.

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:32 AM

HOWARD

Hi there not sure what is wrong with the speed issue. It could be an old TV having slight 50/60 hz conversion issues. It could be a not so great DVD player.

How is your problem manifesting exactly?

Have you tried other R1 titles?

I bought both my DVD players from these guys based in Chicago (ordered Friday evening UK time arrived Tuesday morning UK time) stick with PIONEER. World Gift Center have DVD players at different budgets some pure output only with superior build, some one way conversion for US buyers wanting to play European discs and some that have two way built-in conversion that allow any disc from anywhere to play on any TV.

http://www.world-import.com/pioneer-dvd.htm

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:43 AM

HOWARD

If you need any advice upgrading your gear and or getting the best out of it once you do my email

is hsm_melody@hotmail.com

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:49 AM

BISHAMON

Was Firefly shot using film or video?

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:53 AM

HOWARD

FIREFLY was shot on film then posted HD24p.
So the only way to get that 24 frame original
running speed as shot in the camera is on a
60hz DVD. It would also be true if it were
shot in HD at 24 frame. But it is was shot
film then posted on HD.

If you view in interlaced at 30fps NTSC
you get the correct speed as a result of the
3-2 pulldown process. If played back in
progressive scan you get pure 24fps film
standard.

On R2 50hz PAL it is always 25 frames per
second never 24fps or adjusted 30fps.

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Friday, October 21, 2005 4:58 PM

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Thanks for the tips Howard. As far as I can tell, my TV and DVD player are both PAL, so when I play Region 1 DVDs (which are really for NTSC, am I right?), they tends to play back slightly slower or not as smoothly as Region 2. Its not really a noticeable problem unless you're consciously looking for it. I havn't bought any other US DVDs yet, though I mite buy Serenity if it comes out there first. Hope it plays OK.

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Friday, October 21, 2005 5:01 PM

HOWARD

It is the PAL version that is WRONG!!
The NTSC version is slower because that is
the original shooting speed. PAL runs at
50hz and speeds things up. It ain't natural.
FIREFLY on Region 1 rocks especially if you
play it pure as I do and even more if you
have progressive scan in NTSC as I do.

60hz is smoother if you have any lack of this
it is likely due to playback as PAL 60. In pure
playback NTSC is more stable.

UPGRADE!!!!

Feel free to contact me for tips on this:
hsm_melody@hotmail.com

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