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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:25 AM

EST120


Generally I do not do this, but I watched the Sci-Fi channel version of Dune (and Children of Dune) and am now interested in reading the books (I usually try to read the books first). What are other people's opinions of the book series? Are they better than the film version?


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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:39 AM

MIRAMEL


the scify version of dune was one of the most enjoyable movies i've seen in a good long while. the book is easily the best book i've ever read w/ the possible exception of lotr. *so* very good, you should read it. (personally, i didnt think the other books were as ggood at the first, but the original was great)

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:45 AM

CHRISISALL


Check out the David Lynch version (extended edition) due out on dvd Jan. or Feb...
It was pretty good, in fact I liked it better than the sci-fi version.
Word from the Mrs. on the books- READ the first one!!!

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 5:21 AM

TRAKEN


The orginal dune books are amazing reads. I have reread the orgional six about 3 times, each and the story is so full that there are new things i pick up each time. My understaning is that he reasearched deserts and dessert culture for 8 years prior to writing the first dune. Best book series to date IMO.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:20 AM

DONCOAT


Mmmm... dessert culture.


I loved the original Dune, but the sequels became less and less interesting to me. I stopped after about the 3rd or 4th book.

Dune (the original) is definitely a science fiction classic, and every SF affecionado should read it. If you're hooked on the tale, by all means read on.


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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:26 AM

SIGNYM

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Is this the one with William Hurt? I thought it was a great adaptation of the book. The Lynch verion by comparions was lame IMHO. BTW- I thought the first Dune book was fantastic, the others less so. It was richly textured and layerd with many meanings and outlooks. Clearly based on Iraq and surrounding areas. The tribal/ vengeful culture is so well protrayed it should be a MUST READ for any invading force.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:30 AM

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION


I actually liked the DUNE books written by Frank Herbert's son better...they are prequils to the original series.

Anyone else read those? Might it not help to read those first maybe? Starting with The Butlerian Jihad perhaps??



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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:58 AM

ITSAWASH


I love Dune, all things Dune. Books, comics, the first film version, the sci-fi series, heck, I even bought a children's picture book of Dune for a buck on the clearance shelf.

It's always good to hear that others appreciate grand sci-fi like this.

If I were marooned on Gilligan's island I'd want the whole Dune series to read. It never gets old. I read the 2nd Dune paperback by accident at 13 years of age because I thought the cover looked cool. I still feel that #2 is a good way to start reading the whole series. It was a good stand-alone read and made me anxious for the first book and all the others afterwards. But go at your own pace and do as you must.

Yep, read the books. Feel the Duneage. It's good for you. Has been good to me and still is as I read the prequels written by Herbert's boy and friend. As of this comment, there are 6 original Dune books (written by Frank Herbert)and another 4 prequels written after the Great Man passed away.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 9:16 AM

GATORMARC


I actually got started with the prequels which have been written by Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson and have enjoyed those a lot more than the original series (I've only read the first 3 of Frank Herbert's Dune books). The books have been based on the notes of Frank Herbert.

http://www.dunenovels.com/

They've written two trilogies so far:

The Legends of Dune - 10,000 years before Dune.

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The LEGENDS OF DUNE trilogy details the saga of the century-long conflict, as well as the original breach that formed the deadly feud between House Atreides and House Harkonnen. The story includes Tio Holtzman's development of foldspace and shield technology, the establishment of the Imperium by House Corrino, and the Zensunni Wanderers' escape from slavery and their flight to the desert world of Arrakis. Readers will also see the seeds of DUNE's famous Great Schools of the Mentats, the Bene Gesserit, the Suk Doctors, and the Swordmasters.


Prelude to Dune - 1 generation before Dune

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Here is the rich and complex world that Frank Herbert created in his classic series, in the time leading up to the momentous events of DUNE. As Emperor Elrood's son Shaddam plots a subtle regicide, young Leto Atreides leaves his lush, water-rich planet for a year's education on the mechanized world of Ix; a planetologist named Pardot Kynes is dispatched by the Emperor to the desert planet Arrakis, or Dune, to discover the secrets of the addictive spice known as melange; and the eight-year-old slave Duncan Idaho is hunted by his cruel masters in a terrifying game from which he vows escape and vengeance. But none can envision the fate in store for them: one that will make them renegades-and shapers of history.


They're also talking of making a 7th Dune book to finish out the series.

GatorMarc

Eat 'em up, chomp, chomp.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:21 AM

FOLLOWMAL




est120,

You should definitely read the Dune books. The original is the best.
"God Emperor of Dune" is the hardest, but you almost have to have it, to go on.
I'm not a big fan of the prequels, but I'm looking forward to the 7th and final book.

I too enjoyed the SciFi series, but I'm also a fan of the old movie too.
I particularly thought "The Children of Dune" was good.




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Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:44 AM

WUGGLYUMP


It’s all good!
I appreciate any attempt to promote more Dune and love the Lynch film as much as the SciFi mini series. Hey, you simply can’t beat handsome actors in Edwardian costumes. They’re too dam sharp! I also loved the two different ways Barron Harkonen was portrayed in both versions. The raving psychotic madman of McMillan was a blast to watch while McNiece’s conniving, backstabbing, weasel was just as fun.
The first book was simply fantastic and everything else, icing on the cake.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:09 AM

STORYMARK


Just thought I'd let all you Dune fans know about some of the possibilities on the horizon.

First of all, there is a special edition DVD of the Lynch version coming out early next year. It includes the theatrical cut, behind the scenes docs, and an extended cut (unclear whether this is the Alan Smithee TV cut, or a new one).

Also, chud.com posted an interview last week with John Harrison, who wrote both sci-fi Dune miniseries, and directed the first. He is trying to get 2 new Dune projects off the ground. One would be a TV series set between Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune. He is also working on a mini-series of the prequel books. He says the sci-fi channel isn't interested in new Dune, so they may go direct-to-DVD.

Thus endeth the update.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:47 AM

MOHRSTOUTBEARD


My recommendation would be to definitely read at least the first two books, Dune and Dune Messiah. I haven't gotten further into the series, but I've re-read Dune at least three or four times; and, in comparison, Dune Messiah is much shorter and feels more like it could or should have been part of the first novel.

But, yeah, Dune rocks.

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