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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
I want a girl who's classy, geeky, highly intelligent, sophisticated, whimsical, critical (in the analytical sense), eloquent, doesn't mind junk food, watches cartoons and animé, likes sci-fi, plays video games, believes in the paranormal, wears a lot of black, won't try to get me drunk (I don't drink, don't feel the need to encourage me to, 'cause it'll just annoy me), and is okay with sitting together on the couch watching (way too much) TV.

People have told me my standards are too high. I usually reply that theirs are too low.

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Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
I LOVE BBC's P&P!! I hope the new movie coming out is as good. I'm worried, though. 2hr movie versus 6 hr mini-series. Guess I'll find out this weekend when I go see it!

Serenity, First Officer of Destiny

I have a live journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/callmeserenity/

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Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
I've only known one guy that would watch Jane Austin with me, but he would never admit to it in public. And he was very sensitive. He's married now. Don't know what that means.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Just striking up a conversation about Serenity out of the blue works too.

Chrisisall, advice to the romance-seekers everywhere

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Here's another: watch Somewhere In Time(Christopher Reeve, Jayne Seymour, 1980) with a guy and see if he cries at the end. Any guy that don't cry- hit the ejector button.

Chrisisserious

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
Nice and NotNice guys: please chime in. And how about that clingy girl question someone asked over the weekend, I think Lightmedark was the only one who answered this and I am curious about it too. I will always be single rather than clingy, I hope that doesn't doom me to spinsterhood. (Good thing I knit, just in case.)

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So, do you find that men are only capable of enjoying something like P&P out of a need to understand that perplexing thing that is Woman? (ie You've got Mail)

Nice and NotNice guys: please chime in. And how about that clingy girl question someone asked over the weekend, I think Lightmedark was the only one who answered this and I am curious about it too. I will always be single rather than clingy, I hope that doesn't doom me to spinsterhood. (Good thing I knit, just in case.)

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I heard somewhere the key was to watch a guys eyes when he laughs. If the laughter shows in his eyes, he's genuine.

Safeat2nd, Chief Handyman of Destiny[b/]

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I've only known one guy that would watch Jane Austin with me, but he would never admit to it in public. And he was very sensitive. He's married now. Don't know what that means.

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I actually own a film version of a Jane Austen book (I will leave you to figure out which one it is) and I enjoy very much. In fact, I went to see it on the first real date I ever went on way back in my youth....

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Originally posted by BlackEyedGirl:
And LightMeDark: You know what? You know what's wrong with you. If you don't think you should be in a relationship, then don't be. It's your life dude, I'm only trying to show you some other perspectives and stuff. Opening your mind and your eyes can lead you to open your heart.

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Originally posted by ScorpionRegent:
the man who knows you may be seeing other men and isn't frightened off and doesn't immediately demand you commit to him and truly is interested in your happiness and is willing to give you the space to find it. Well, that man may just be your keeper, a man of true courage. So long as he's not hiding the fact from you he's married already, and is interested in a commited to a exclusive monogamous relationship. That is the prize right? The winner gets to share everything with you, exclusively. I'm not asking in a judgemental fashion, but it's important to know what you want and to communicate it openly because that's the key to success in so many things, communication. And when you change, hey everybody does, keep communicating. There is nothing more frustrating for a man than the cliche of a woman who sends out subtle signals and expects the man to read her mind.

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Originally posted by XeroGravity:
Don't get comfortable. I'm not done yet. Just recuperating. That was a 3-pronged attack by the female of the species, and my mojo is taxed. The "masculinst" movement must live.

XG

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
I'm relatively new to FFF (and to internet posting in general, actually) so let me introduce myself a bit. I'm a scientist but I have my sides. Often my day will go like this - play ice hockey with the girls early, go to work and write code and plot squiggly lines all day, go to ballet/modern dance class, maybe catch some more hockey with the guys at night. Or go home and watch FF. I like dressing up and dancing at clubs (trance addict here) I play cello (oh, the Bach suites!) I knit. I rarely wear makeup. I'm a tall and skinny ballerina type but not so fashionable. I love scifi. I love Jane Austen. I home brew.
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I was watching TV with a boyfriend once and The Age of Innocence came on, and after five minutes he said - "this is a chick flick" and immediately tuned out. It was too big a challenge to his masculinity, I guess! *wussy*

My man should allow me to paint his toenails if I'm in the mood and also take (or give) a hip check on the ice.

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Originally posted by TotallyFryed:
but we, as men, tend to put on our track shoes when we meet someone who could be 'the one'. Fair enough?

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Originally posted by Haidon:
Firstly, I have been, on numerous occasions, accused of being a 'nice guy.' Those words were usually shortly followed by "Let's just be friends." As a result of this, I tried to be the bad guy. I was able to do it, but I didn't like what I had become. Not that it didn't get me women, which it did. But I seriously didn't like being the a$$hole.
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Well, I tried e-Harmony. Have you ever been turned down by a dating service?? It's humiliating.
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Of course, I'm also the kind of guy that's excessively shy arond women. The only women I have dated asked ME out, not t'other way around. Even during that a$$hole period, I could only get a number if they asked me.

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Originally posted by Zeek:
Us guys don't get subtle signals. Come over and talk to us. We get that one.

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Nice and NotNice guys: please chime in. And how about that clingy girl question someone asked over the weekend, I think Lightmedark was the only one who answered this and I am curious about it too. I will always be single rather than clingy, I hope that doesn't doom me to spinsterhood. (Good thing I knit, just in case.

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I have to say most guys don't like the clingy girl so you should be ok. Of course that's not everyone (as I've demonstrated).

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Jadehand: I'm completely available, and I'll get trashed with you and we can plan the innevitable downfall of stupidity. I'm also a schemer (this just doesn't look to be spelled right), and like Wash, I was laconic once, but never had a fry cook opportunity. So get a bottle of vodka and a notebook (cos we'll need to take notes of course, what good is planning if you can't attempt to make out your drunked scribblings the next day), and we will figure this out.

I always wanted a bumper sticker that said: I wish stupidity were fatal so you'd die. I figured I might get rear ended a lot with that though.
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Originally posted by Lofwyrr:
I'll tell you where we are. We're driving you home from the bar, drunk, as you cry about the hot guy that 'broke your heart' that night at the bar. We're holding back your hair as you puke. We're sitting at home when you call and say that your date for the night cancelled and can you come over and talk. We're sitting at the bar with you, watching your purse as you go up to the bar or out on the dance floor to hit on the hot guy, trying to get him to buy you drinks. We're waiting for you to realize that we'll treat you well all the time, not just when the hot, or rich, or nice car-having guys are done with you.

We're right in front of you.

Not that I'm bitter or anything

Be wary of rousing the wrath of wizards, for you are flammable and conduct electricity.

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You know, I'm not usually into the random threads thing (and don't post all that frequently), but I like to think of myself as an observer of people, and especially relationships, and I think the post I've quoted has got all sorts of smarts to it.

For all interested in a bitter male perspective, visit http://www.intellectualwhores.com which has a wonderful theory. Even if you end up disagreeing with it, it's something to consider. And that's what we're about right?

But I imagine that most of you who are looking for a "nice guy" already have one around. And the fact that he's around, probably means he's interested. You know that whole "When harry Met Sally" thing that men and women can never be friends because if you don't want to have sex with him than he wants to have sex with you? Girls, I've got a news flash, it's absolutely true. Every female friend I have, I would date. Every one who I've had that I've decided it wouldn't be worth dating, I don't talk to any more.

So, when I'm there listening to a female friend talk about her (ex-)boyfriend, I'm taking notes. I'm learning more about her than said boyfriend does. Mainly so that if an opportunity comes up, there I am. And unless the guy is into guys, that's pretty much why guys are friends with girls.

So, where do you go to look for a nice guy? Odds are, you've already got him around. And odds are, he's also willing. You've just got to look around and see him not on the friend ladder, but on the relationship ladder (see link above). The problem isn't of finding guys (it's very easy to say "Why Hasn't a nice guy come along yet?") but rather why haven't you noticed the nice guy who's already there (a lot harder to ask that question). Expand the base of guys you're looking at... heck, for a day, or a week or whatever, size up every guy you meet as potential boyfriend material and see what you come up with (not that you have to act on it), but just to get your thoughts going in that direction.

"You are on the Global Frequency."
http://www.frequencysite.com
http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com]

But then that wouldn't make them a nice guy, would it? They would instead be opportunist bastards. Just saying.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
Persuasion? Because that's my FAVOURITE of all.

But it was probably Sense & Sensibility because that's the only one that I can think of that's been made into a movie that's made it into a theater.

LFO-P&P is short for Pride & Prejudice. We were just being lazy.

Serenity, First Officer of Destiny

I have a live journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/callmeserenity/

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Here's another: watch Somewhere In Time(Christopher Reeve, Jayne Seymour, 1980) with a guy and see if he cries at the end. Any guy that don't cry- hit the ejector button.

Chrisisserious

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Somewhere In Time has one of the best movie kisses EVER!

(I think my nice guy would have flunked this test. Hmmm. Think I'll have to rent.)

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Here's another: watch Somewhere In Time...Any guy that don't cry- hit the ejector button. Chrisisserious

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I think my nice guy would have flunked this test.

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*interesting film fact: When Jayne Seymour was 'adding' dialogue during her play and directing it to Chris Reeve in the audience, it was actually the writer, Richard Matheson, sitting in for Reeve, at whom she was looking.

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Matheson was supposedly so moved and upset by the experience, he had to call his wife and return home immediately. That's a nice guy.

Pass the tissue.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Back in 1980 I saw it in the theatre with my then girlfriend, who not only didn't cry, she said afterward that it was 'over-acted' (theatre major), it was then that I knew it would never work between us.

Chrisisall a Matheson fan

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Originally posted by BruisersMom:
Oh, here's a thought from the BruisersMom files. Sometimes the nice guy is still single and a waste of time because he's terrified of commitment or just very comfortable being a confirmed thirtysomething bachelor and only wants a woman to be his girlfriend for the rest of her life. Ended a relationship with one of those nice guys about a year ago.

Oh, and here's something scary. The above mentioned exboyfriend had friends who were just like him. They use to go out to dinner and movies together on Friday nights when they didn't have girlfriends. Maybe, I should post their names so that single women can avoid wasting their time on them? Yeah, why not. Their names are David Poepoe, Webb Deneys and I forget the other guy's last name. His first name was Jason. You'll see him with the other two guys anyway.

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