Okay, now I'm learnin' about scary... by Lerxst

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Okay, now I'm learnin' about scary...

POSTED BY: LERXST
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 1, 2003 20:53
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Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:40 AM

What scares you folks? Firefly-related or not.

Those Alliance Cruisers really scare me. They look like Corporate Evil personified. Darth Gates' version of a Stardestroyer.

Some people's driving on the freeway scares me too. Especially a semi tailgatin' me when I'm in the slow lane. I'm always wonderin' if it's Archer tryin' to run me down cos I called 'im a "hack".

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 12:16 PM

SUCCATASH

big spiders
heights
mean women
no beer in the fridge

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 12:39 PM

FREMDFIRMA

What frightens me most is the collective of Hilter/Stalin wannabe folks in the upper echelons of our society, business, and government.

That really, REALLY scares me, it does...

-Frem
Hey Ashcroft ?

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:02 PM

SUCCATASH

Oh yeah, I forgot to say G.W. Bush.

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:09 PM

KAYTHRYN

The ocean scares me-- not watching it, or being on it in a boat, but being more than a few inches into it without shoes scares the hell out of me.

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:10 PM

CAPTBAGGYTROUSERS

Bless you for saying it, 'Tash.

Tailgaiters? I have a personal mission to antagonize these people. You should see me drop down to twenty on the highway and stay right in front of them until they give me some slack.

Oh, and antagonizing people who're driving while on the phone. Get off the phone and drive! Oh, yes. Did I mention I live in Massachusetts where the Bad Driver is King?

Now, Firefly. The Alliance cruisers like Dortmunder (anyone know what that means?) always seem... I dunno... Unwieldy, I guess. Like a flying city skyline. Neat design. I wish we'd gotten another look at those fighters on their belly, though.

History repeats the old conceits

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:10 PM

TRAGICSTORY

Well, GW Bush doesn't scare me because when the shit hits the fan I would rather a guy who grabs a gun than hugs a tree.

What else scares me:

Sobering up and having to face life.

Knowing that at the moment I am signing up to do something that will take the rest of my life to do and 50 years from now no one will remember me doing it.

"Societies are supported by human activity, therefore they are constantly threatened by the human facts of self-intrest and stupidity." --Peter Berger

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:10 PM

TRAGICSTORY

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:40 PM

LUPA

Quote:
Originally posted by Kaythryn:
The ocean scares me-- not watching it, or being on it in a boat, but being more than a few inches into it without shoes scares the hell out of me.

Thanks for mentioning that (I was scared to say it first

). Yeah, I can't wade into the ocean past the point where I can see my feet. What if you stepped on a critter or a broken shell, or ever worse. . . what if a piece of seaweed touched your foot? *shudders* It doesn't even bear thinking about.

"Curse your sudden, but inevitable betrayal."

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:55 PM

KAYTHRYN

Quote:
Posted by Lupa:
or ever worse. . . what if a piece of seaweed touched your foot?

*Screams like a little girl*

You're gonna give me nightmares!

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 2:29 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

I wondered about the name also, so I googled Dortmunder and found that there is several Swiss companys with that as their name. Revelvance ? I have no idea.

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 2:42 PM

CAPTBAGGYTROUSERS

Anyone see Finding Nemo? There was a sequence with jellyfish where all of my flesh grew cold and pale from the willies.

History repeats the old conceits

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 3:01 PM

SERGEANTX

The Patriot Act... and, Patriot II.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 3:57 PM

WULFHAWK

So long as my Leatherman is at hand, my shotgun under my bed, my swords on the mantle, and Firefly is still flying, I fear nothing.

tanstaafl

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 4:14 PM

LUPA

Quote:
So long as my Leatherman is at hand, my shotgun under my bed, my swords on the mantle

Okay, now I'm scared of you.

"Curse your sudden, but inevitable betrayal."

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 5:03 PM

LERXST

Today I was borin' folk on the IRC with some sea stories, so I figure I might as well bore the rest of y'all too:

Falling overboard. This was my worst fear. First off, if you don't fall off the back of the ship, there's a damn good chance you'll be sucked into a seawater intake, or into the ship's propellers. If not, well it's a great big ocean. If there didn't happen to be a helo in the air and somebody didn't see you go over... Of the dozen or so unlucky fuckers who went for a swim while I was there, they found maybe two or three.

Steam rupture. Second worst fear. I worked in the engineering plant. 1500 psi steam, 600 degrees. If one of those pipes ever ruptured -- well it'd only hurt for a second or two. Like bein' in a giant convection oven, 'cept you'd be "done" 'fore you hit the floor.

Fire aboard ship. There ain't no fire department to call when yer out at sea. YOU are the fire department. Anyone see that program 'bout the USS Forrestal on the History Channel? Worst loss of life from a single incident durin' the Vietnam War, and all due to a little electrical glitch in an A-4 Skyhawk's weapons system. 'Course the Navy learned quite a bit from the Forrestal fire, and sailors nowadays are much better trained to handle a fire at sea, but they're still gorram scary.

A "General Quarters" (battle stations) alarm, when you're sittin' off the Kuwaiti coast durin' the '91 Gulf War (anyone remember what happened to the USS Stark?). Actually, that's scary any time. Usually a drill, but could also mean there's massive flooding or fire somewhere. Or an Exocet missile inbound. "Broken Arrow" alarms are scary too. That means someone had an "oopsy" with one of the "special" weapons. "Special" means the ones that make noise on Geiger counters.

Bein' on the flight deck. Those guys (and gals) that work up there don't get paid near enough. Four and a half acres is a pretty decent-sized piece 'o real estate. Unless yer usin' it as a gorram airport. We lost a few guys here and there who wandered into someone's jet blast and got blown over the side. We had one guy get sucked into a jet intake (he lived, interestin' story for another time). We had another guy walk into one o' the props of an E2-C Hawkeye. That one wasn't pretty. An arresting cable snapping as a plane snags it is pretty ugly too. Steel cable 'bout as thick as yer arm, whippin' by at a good clip. God help ye if'n yer in it's way. (I got an interestin' story 'bout that too, and nobody died that time either).

The Feres Doctrine. This applies to any branch of the service, not just the Navy. Basically it states that the government cannot be held liable if a military member is hurt or killed due to negligence of military personnel. So, if some quack military doctor kills you on the operatin' table, or you're killed because some idjit accidently fired a Sea Sparrow into your bridge (yes, that happened), sorry 'bout yer luck dude.

Okay WAKE UP y'all. I'm done for now.

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:47 PM

SIRENKAIN

Quote:
Originally posted by TragicStory:
Well, GW Bush doesn't scare me because when the shit hits the fan I would rather a guy who grabs a gun than hugs a tree

Scares me..... I don't think he is smart enough to know which end is the dangerous one.

Biggest fear by far .....Organized Religion.

Next would be anyone else (besides the previously mentioned) who is sure they know what is best for me. This demon comes most times in the form of John Ashcroft.

Morbid and creep-ifying I got no problem with.

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:09 PM

CANADIANJON

ahhhh! Sadako from The Ring
(original Japanese version).

I have fears at night all the time of that frigging fish-eye. Nothing is scarier than it!

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 8:21 PM

KOFFEE

....gorram double post....

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 8:22 PM

KOFFEE

Quote:
Originally posted by SirenKain:
Scares me..... I don't think he is smart enough to know which end is the dangerous one.

Unfortunatly seems to be very true....Bush is just a puppet for those who are really running things...Big Business... Can you say Enron? I knew you could.

Quote:
Biggest fear by far .....Organized Religion.

Are you reading my thoughts? I am so with you on this.

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Next would be anyone else (besides the previously mentioned) who is sure they know what is best for me. This demon comes most times in the form of John Ashcroft.

I still can't believe the whole statue/drape thing.....John they are just boobs, they ain't gonna hurt ya none.

Lets see what else scares me....
-Heights (don't even think I'm getting on a roller coaster)
-Deep water (if I ain't got a life jacket, or can't at least touch bottom...no way)
-Spiders (just creepifying)
-Snakes (also creepifiying)
-Motorcycles / Quad Runners (damn death machines)

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Sunday, June 29, 2003 4:13 PM

FREMDFIRMA

I am SOOOOOOOOOO down with that, Lerxst !

I was a grunt, which means the environment was slightly different, but the incompetence, the stupidity, and sheer bad fortune is exactly the same in any branch of the service.

Not to mention them damn military cockroaches about 3 inches long and the gorram things can FLY too, I swear they're military-issue, cause I've never seen the hellspawned things anywhere ELSE, but they're damned sure in every place the military goes....

You know, dude, yer gonna HAVE to spill on some of these now... how the HELL did one of yours fire a missle into his own bridge ???

And here I thought the penultimate in stupidity (and darwinism) was the dumbass what broke his neck diving headfirst into a foxhole...

-Frem
"Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing it's idiot.."

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Sunday, June 29, 2003 5:13 PM

SERENITYVALLEY

My worste fear are elevators, expecially non-glass ones and ones in old buildings. It don't want to get stuck and I don't want the cable to snap. I don't like it when the wire creaks and I don't like it when it buzzes.

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?" -Wash
"I told him to sit down," -Simon

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Sunday, June 29, 2003 5:53 PM

LOTV

hmmm.. scary things... besides femi-nazis?

Honestly, downright, bloody scary would be the thought that there is nothing after death...

If you've ever done this, just lying in bed and actually seriously thinking about that to the point to you believe it with everything that is you, it scares the complete "#%# out of you...

on a side note, that was the night I found faith in God... ;P

LOTV: Ima-who-whata-whoichy-whoda-whazza--huh?

Garapagosu Last Update: 6/24/03

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Sunday, June 29, 2003 6:28 PM

LJC

Clowns.

Something happening to my parents or my sister.

Heights.

Not being able to breathe.

That sick helpless feeling you get in the bottom of your stomach when you're stuck in a situation that's gonna lead to an altercation, and nothing you say or do can diffuse it.

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Some take the high road. Some take the low road.
And some just go screaming down the highway, dropping flaming bits of wreckage.

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Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:23 PM

SISTERKAYLEE

I don't like to drive over bridges.
I really don't like having my arms pinned to my sides.
I don't like be so scared that I can neither move nor speak.

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Monday, June 30, 2003 1:41 AM

TINYELF

Quote:
Originally posted by Lerxst:
We had one guy get sucked into a jet intake (he lived, interestin' story for another time).

This would have to be my greatest fear. Was unfortunate enough to witness some poor bugger get sucked into the jet intake of a Harrier about 5 years ago (of course, not as unfortunate as the poor bugger who got sucked in). Have been thinking about that quite a bit since watching Serenity a couple of weeks back. I think the scariest thing about dying that way is its so damn quick you wouldn't even know what was happening - one minute you're doing your job and the next your paste. Makes my skin crawl!

Lerxst - Would be interested to here how your guy survived!

TinyElf : )

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Monday, June 30, 2003 2:01 AM

HIMBERRY

Quote:
Originally posted by CaptBaggytrousers:

Now, Firefly. The Alliance cruisers like Dortmunder (anyone know what that means?) always seem... I dunno... Unwieldy, I guess. Like a flying city skyline. Neat design. I wish we'd gotten another look at those fighters on their belly, though.

... might not necessarily be the reason why the cruiser is called dortmund, but this explanation is a good one for me:

dortmund is a city in germany, "dortmunder" means "from dortmund". in ww1 and 2 german warships were named after people or cities. hearing that the cruiser is called dortmunder directly increased a dark, horrible atmosphere for me, creating a picture of a big, hostile, terrifying warship in my mind.

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Monday, June 30, 2003 2:02 AM

KENWOOD

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Not to mention them damn military cockroaches about 3 inches long and the gorram things can FLY too, I swear they're military-issue, cause I've never seen the hellspawned things anywhere ELSE, but they're damned sure in every place the military goes....

They have 'em in Florida, but they call them Palmetto bugs there. It sounds better to the tourists than giant flying mutant cockroaches from hell.

Later,

ME.

Don't look back, som'thin' might be gainin' on ya.
Who let the pigs play poker?
Evo Shander was right!

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Monday, June 30, 2003 2:42 AM

FAHQ

Here is a couple for ya;

1: I have been riding motorcycles for 18 years without any major incident, mainly because I ride responsibly-Not like one of those less endowed twits on sportbikes, or a moron who thinks "loud pipes save lives". What scares me are the drivers of 4 (Or more) wheeled vehicles who just dont pay attention. Biggest personal threat to my life, aside from the time I was shot at.

2: The decline in social courtesy and people just not giving a damn about each other anymore. Living in Chicago most of my life I have only seen it here, but I cannot believe that it is limited to this city alone. The decline of the polite society concerns me, because eventually it leads to nothing good.

Caffeine powered, anger managed!

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Monday, June 30, 2003 2:54 AM

FAHQ

Quote:
Originally posted by Koffee:

"-Motorcycles / Quad Runners (damn death machines"

I am certainly not interested in turning this into a flame war by any means, but since I have been safely and successfully riding motorcycles for 18 years, could you please tell me how they are "death machines"? I am curious because I have found that car/truck drivers who pull out in front of me, cut me off, or have been too busy talking on their phones to drive safely have been MUCH more of a scary thing.

14 years of bouncing in bars tells me that drunk drivers are more likely to be "death machines" in their own right.

Caffeine powered, anger managed!

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Monday, June 30, 2003 3:38 AM

SARAHETC

Quote:
Originally posted by SisterKaylee:
I don't like to drive over bridges.

Me either. I cannot stand it. And god forbid I get stuck in a traffic jam or something on a bridge while in the backseat. I hyperventilate. Almost blacked out once, on the lower deck of the Bay Bridge in San Francisco.

Earlier this spring I was supposed to go on a location shoot in the Florida Keys, which you have to drive to and we've all seen "True Lies." As the plans were getting made they were insisting that I drive and it almost made me back out of the whole deal. The trip got cancelled. I had a big *phew* moment.

I'm scared of losing my hearing, too.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Monday, June 30, 2003 4:14 AM

HATEHATEHATEFOX

Quote:
Originally posted by TragicStory:
Well, GW Bush doesn't scare me because when the shit hits the fan I would rather a guy who grabs a gun than hugs a tree.

NOT trying to start a fight, but ...
considering certain well-known events in Shrub's military career - I don't think you'll see too much leading the charge type stuff from him. AWOL much?

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Monday, June 30, 2003 5:09 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave

driving in torrential downpour rain...actually riding as a passenger hits me worse.

leaving this life before I figure out what the hell I'm supposed to be doing with it.

snakesshudder cute creepy-crawlies for some, but just give me the heebie jeebies. it's one of those hereditary things, actually. my big bad Jayne-like baby brother can't even pick up an issue of National Geographic until he asks the question, "Are there snakes in it?" I mean no legs and yet they move--directly toward me, and faster than second-hand smoke. does that seem right to you?

tailgaters

goes back to the driving in rain, actually. anyone who's been rear-ended as many times as I have would understand. it's the main reason why my poor twisted spine is so screwed up.

Reavers. the unknown BIG scary. the Alliance is intimidating, but at least they're predicable and can be explained.

and one might think i'd be afraid of losing my sight. no eyes, no art. actually that's too big to think about, so generally I don't.

I found the way, by the sound of your voice--so many things to say.
These are only words. Now I've only words. Once there was a choice.
David Sylvian

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Monday, June 30, 2003 5:42 AM

KAYTHRYN

Quote:
Posted by Channain:
and one might think i'd be afraid of losing my sight. no eyes, no art. actually that's too big to think about, so generally I don't.

That would have to be my second greatest fear. I could live with losing my hearing, well, because I don’t generally like to listen to people anyway, but completely losing my sight would be devastating.

I’ve got pretty horrible eye sight as is right now, but with the wonderful little invention of contacts life is good. But I remember once, after a trip to New Mexico, my bag with all of my contacts and a pair of glasses was lost, and before I even realized it, I had thrown away my last pair of contacts. Because of the type of eyes I have I couldn’t get replacements for almost a week. That was the scariest damn week of my life! I couldn’t drive, could barley walk, couldn’t read anything until it was four inches from my face, I never knew who I was talking to, and, like you said Channain, no art. That whole week was miserable.

I ended up shutting myself away in my room, in the dark, allowing myself out only if I was going to the kitchen or bathroom. And when I got my glasses back, I cried.

And now, on a slightly more upbeat note, anyone get that laser eye surgery thingy and like it?

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Monday, June 30, 2003 8:15 AM

KOFFEE

Quote:
Originally posted by FahQ:
I am certainly not interested in turning this into a flame war by any means,

And neither am I.....so I won't. You have your opinion, and on this topic I have mine. I would prefer we leave it simply at that.

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Monday, June 30, 2003 11:25 AM

ZEKE023

Quote:
Originally posted by TragicStory:
Well, GW Bush doesn't scare me because when the shit hits the fan I would rather a guy who grabs a gun than hugs a tree.

I think the thing here is... when the shit hitting the fan is completely fabricated... and there are FBI documents which say there is no shit (and never was) which are ignored... and the rest of the free world wants to bring you up on war crime charges....

I'll take the tree-hugger. They'll do nothing.
I'll take lazy incompitance over aggressive incompatence 10 times out of 10.

-Z

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Monday, June 30, 2003 1:05 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC

Ticks, creepy crawly bugs, you know the ones, segmented bodies a slimy sheen, like earwigs or centipedes. Or those bugs that you find in the dirt while gardening.

The end, imagine that it ends, you life is over and there is nothing beyond it. The think of every mistake you wont be able to fix, everything you’ll never get to take back, everything that you’ll never get to say. Once you’ve been alive for any length of time you’ve screwed up too much to every fix. It’s a comforting to think that there is an afterlife where you can fix your mistakes, where you can say what needs to be said, be forgiven and forgive. The idea that it isn’t there scares the hell out of me.

Then there is god, there is know way if there is a god. It is simply a matter of faith, but if follows that there is now way to know if god is really good. Think of the possibility that there is a god, and he, she or it is sadistic. Would put a lot in perspective right? Black Death, AIDS, cancer, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, genetic disorders (like the one that makes children die of old age before they his puberty) it’s not hard to get thinking like that if you haven’t had enough sleep or are philosophical. It is scary, more so even than the ticks.

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Monday, June 30, 2003 7:18 PM

PHILOMEL

What scares me?

Dying slowly and alone.

Being incapacitated in either mind or body, or both, but being with it just enough to know it.

Paper wasps.

Being trapped, in any way.

Reality TV taking over.

George W. being re-elected.

Ummm ... lots more stuff, but that's it for now ...

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Tuesday, July 1, 2003 4:31 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave

Quote:
Originally posted by Kaythryn
And now, on a slightly more upbeat note, anyone get that laser eye surgery thingy and like it?

Kayt, my cousin has had it done. her eyesight before was horrendous. thick lenses in her glasses, had to have a specific kind of contacts due to her prescription and I remember every handbag decision she made had to include space for contact solution, case and glasses. more than a year ago now, she went in and had lasik surgery and it has changed EVERYTHING. no contacts, no glasses, no squinting, which she did even with correctives. I think her eyes do dry out more often than they used to, but for the freedom of not having to haul around all that stuff (or worry about losing it ;) I think for her it's definitely worth it. she LOVES it.

thing is, I asked and she doesn't believe you can get adequate treatment with the $595 or whatever that's offered in the newspaper/mailbox ads. if you're going to do it, do it right. that means anywhere between $800-$2000 per eye. these are your eyes you're messing with, right?

I would do it except for two things. one, I'm certainly no miss moneybags, so saving for the real treatment would take time; and two, I really struggle with the thought of letting a laser beam get that close to my eye. I'm getting there, but it will still be a long, long, long, longlong while

I found the way, by the sound of your voice--so many things to say.
These are only words. Now I've only words. Once there was a choice.
David Sylvian

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Tuesday, July 1, 2003 4:30 PM

LERXST

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
You know, dude, yer gonna HAVE to spill on some of these now... how the HELL did one of yours fire a missle into his own bridge ???

Check out the section labeled "Background" on this link: www.law.emory.edu/11circuit/feb97/96-2167.opa.html.

Both missiles hit the bridge. Five people died, including the Turkish ship's Captain. One thing really bothers me about this incident that was never explained -- Why the heck did they use their Sea Sparrows in the first place? A carrier has no offensive weapons besides the ones on the planes. The Sea Sparrow is a defensive weapon, designed to shoot down incoming missiles or enemy fighters. Didn't anyone on the fire-control crew question the order to shoot them at a SHIP!?"

Quote:
Originally posted by Tinyelf:
This would have to be my greatest fear. Was unfortunate enough to witness some poor bugger get sucked into the jet intake of a Harrier about 5 years ago (of course, not as unfortunate as the poor bugger who got sucked in). Have been thinking about that quite a bit since watching Serenity a couple of weeks back. I think the scariest thing about dying that way is its so damn quick you wouldn't even know what was happening - one minute you're doing your job and the next your paste. Makes my skin crawl!

Lerxst - Would be interested to here how your guy survived!?

Holy crap! You saw that! Whoa, I'm sure that wasn't pretty. Our guy was real lucky. If you watch The History Channel enough you might see 'im. It was recorded by one of the flight deck cameras, and I've seen it replayed a coupla times since, in one of those "what not to do" trainin' videos. The guy was just be-boppin' along the flight deck, and wandered in front of an A-6 Intruder. Next thing you know, he ain't there, and you see feet stickin' out one of the intakes. He was real lucky 'cause of three things. One, the chinstrap on his helmet wasn't fastened, and it got sucked off his head and jammed up the turbine some. Two, the engine had been shut off (but it was still spoolin' down). And three, his pantsleg got caught on one of the plane's little antenna thingys that was near the intake. When they pulled 'im out, he was a little banged up and confused, but that was it.

The arresting wire thing:
I'd heard stories of them snappin', cuttin' people off at the knees or slicin' 'em in half. The one time it happened on our ship, luckily nobody got hit by it. An EA-6B Prowler was comin' in for a landing. As soon as it hit the deck the pilot went to full throttle (this is in case you don't snag a wire, you just fly right off and go 'round for another try). He caught a wire, and it held long enough that the plane slowed and the pilot let off the throttle. THEN it broke. The plane was going too fast for him to get it stopped before he ran out of runway, but too slow to get airborne again. He went to full throttle anyway, which kept the plane level long enough that everyone in it (it's a four-seater) had enough time to eject safely before it went into the water.

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Tuesday, July 1, 2003 8:53 PM

FAHQ

Good enough for me. Except one final note-

When people say to me "Nice motorcycle; Where is your helmet?" I reply; "Where is your motorcycle?"

Harlan Ellison once said; "You have no right to an opinion whatsoever. You have every right to an informed opinion."

Moving forward........Have a nice day.

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