Why does IGN automatically assume there's no Sequel? by ADMIRAL

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Why does IGN automatically assume there's no Sequel?

POSTED BY: ADMIRAL
UPDATED: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:45
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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:26 AM

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/675/675134p1.html

Read this article, they call it "a great onscreen finale", and they even say there's son sequel.

The Hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne!!!

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:37 AM

PSOLARIS

I love it that this guy gets it. He understands how much we love this show and I think he wrote a very endearing article. And he is right on some points as this being closure to some of the storyline...because it was. I think that's really what he was saying. Although I keep my fingers crossed that we get a miracle tossed our direction!!

I have to say my favorite quote in the whole article is this:

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These are characters with more depth and realism than George Lucas could conjure up with a team of 400 digital animators and a limitless budget. In Revenge of the Sith, Anakin Skywalker changes from all-good to all-bad in the span of a single, completely unrealistic scene. Lucas cannot seem to grasp the idea that real beings are never so cut and dry, and as a result it becomes a struggle in dedication to keep disbelief suspended. Whedon's heroes and villains by comparison never suffer these conventionalisms or short cuts. They draw and maintain emotion from beginning to end.

Boo-ya!

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:54 PM

VIOLETRIX

i love how people keep comparing serenity to star wars and just ripping on lucas. joss & co wrote firefly and serenity so well however, there really is no comparison.
i don't want to be overly negative about lucas, since i grew up watching star wars but... maybe if lucas hadn't ripped off frank herbert's dune series in the original star wars films, he'd have actually had some of his own ideas to fall back on for the last three films.
(sorry, i just had to get that in.)

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the arithmetic of absence

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:03 PM

PSOLARIS

Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying Lucas is horrible, I grew up with Star Wars, and I can quote just about every line of the old movies, however I don't like what he had done with the prequels. The story lines and the character development for the latest three movies are lacking IMHO. I agree with what you've said in that he seemed not to have much to fall back on.

The point that I liked was that with all of the backing that Lucas had with his lacking prequels, his story lines and characters weren't as endearing as our BDM, which didn't have near the backup.

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:10 PM

VIOLETRIX

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The point that I liked was that with all of the backing that Lucas had with his lacking prequels, his story lines and characters weren't as endearing as our BDM, which didn't have near the backup.

i totally agree with this. i just wanted to vent my frustation at lucas.

throwing money at a director does not a good movie make, as lucas proved. lucas aside, joss & co did so much with what is considered in hollywood to be so little, and i think that it's nice that people, (ie, ign, new york magazine, etc.), are taking notice.

http://violetrix.blogspot.com
the arithmetic of absence

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:50 AM

JERRYT

I agree about the prequels being lacking in the character development area. I just couldn't really get to the point of caring about any of them.
The original trilogy however had that special something like Firefly; a cast that came together and made you care about them. This really helped you to overlook some of the cheesy dialog that went on.

JerryT
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"I'll be in my bunk"

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:56 AM

PSYCHICRIVER

I think we'll get a sequel.

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."

"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"
"I swallowed a bug."

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:46 AM

MEANGOLDFISH

the biggest problem with the star wars prequels is that none of the characters seem very "real" to me. a character is either a pure hearted good guy or a merciless bad guy. it doesn't help that lucas couldn't write dialogue to save his life, which i believe is one of the main reasons none of his characters are easy to relate to.

the exception of course is Han Solo from the original trilogy, the bad good guy. but people other than Lucas had a hand in what Solo did and said, the best example of which, i believe, is right before he gets frozen in carbonite, Leia says "I love you". Lucas originally had Solo saying "I love you too", but Harrison Ford changed it so that he said "I know", since it fit the character better.

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:31 AM

STORYMARK

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throwing money at a director does not a good movie make, as lucas proved.

Kind of a silly statement, given that Lucas paid for the prequels out of his own pocket.

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Originally posted by meangoldfish:
the biggest problem with the star wars prequels is that none of the characters seem very "real" to me. a character is either a pure hearted good guy or a merciless bad guy. it doesn't help that lucas couldn't write dialogue to save his life, which i believe is one of the main reasons none of his characters are easy to relate to.

I would argue that, while no, Lucas isn't a mater of dialog, the stiffness of the dialog fit the characters to an extent. The main characters in the prequels are all nobility/royalty, politicians, or knights. People of that social status tend to speak a bit more stiffly. It would be as out-of-character for the prequel characters to start quipping Firefly-style as it would be for Prince Charles.

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the exception of course is Han Solo from the original trilogy, the bad good guy. but people other than Lucas had a hand in what Solo did and said, the best example of which, i believe, is right before he gets frozen in carbonite, Leia says "I love you". Lucas originally had Solo saying "I love you too", but Harrison Ford changed it so that he said "I know", since it fit the character better.

Close. Actually, Ford did do the line as written many times, but after so many re-takes he was frustrated and ad-libbed that bit, and it worked. There were many blown takes in the Han/Leia scenes, as Carrie Fisher was pretty coked-up for most of the shoot. If you watch, durring the scene in the asteroid between the two of them in the cockpit of the Falcon, when the ship shakes and she falls into his arms, you can see Ford's lips moving just a bit, mouthing her dialog along with her - apparently because they'd had to do the take so many times.

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:25 AM

VIOLETRIX

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throwing money at a director does not a good movie make, as lucas proved.

Kind of a silly statement, given that Lucas paid for the prequels out of his own pocket.

i was using lucas as an example. would you rather i used one of the many other directors that are funded by studios alone? like roland emmerich, with the day after tomorrow?

http://violetrix.blogspot.com
the arithmetic of absence

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:49 AM

MTNSCOTT

More Star Wars bashing...

Ripping on something else to build something else up... What is this Jr. High.

Only the half mad are wholly alive!
E.A.

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:10 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by violetrix:
i was using lucas as an example. would you rather i used one of the many other directors that are funded by studios alone? like roland emmerich, with the day after tomorrow
http://violetrix.blogspot.com
the arithmetic of absence

Well, yeah. If you're going to make a point, don't use an example that undermines the point. And I'm totally with you on Emmerich.

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:45 AM

VIOLETRIX

basically, what i'm trying to say is: money is money and serenity had very little of it, by hollywood standards, and yet was still a great movie.

as for this being "jr high", it's not immature to say that you don't like something. i don't like star wars. so what?

doesn't mean i don't like star wars fans.

http://violetrix.blogspot.com
the arithmetic of absence

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