Serenity in Battlestar Galactica by pzadvance

Cool!! Looks like I'm gonna have to start watching BSG.

Inara: Mal, this isn't the ancient sea. You don't have to go down with your ship.
Mal: She ain't going down. She ain't going anywhere.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 3:02 AM

Well, you should watch the entire season 1 and half of season 2. BSG really grows on you. I remember starting seeing it after i'd seen firefly and wanted something more good stuff. In the beginning i didnt think much of it. But as i've seen all that has been made so far i really love that show. Sure, it still doesnt match firefly (but hey, what does?). Still a very good show.

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Friday, December 16, 2005 3:06 AM

I will. Oh, no, though, another series. I'll never get out of the house. Fine by me. Need something to fill the void.

Book: Shouldn't we report this?
Mal: To who? The Alliance? Right. They're gonna run right out here lickety-split and make sure these taxpayers are okay.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 3:58 AM

Oh, i was reffering to the thread starter, but i recommend it to you too flywithmecapt :)

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Friday, December 16, 2005 4:07 AM

Oh.....ANDRE83 This may sound stupid but how old is BSG? Most folks have already been into it, but I don't have much time to watch tv and I know I've seen it but not sure when it came out and ended.

Zoe: Sir, I know she's unpredictable, but I don't think she'd harm anyone.
Jayne: Butcher's knife!
Zoe: Anyone we can't spare.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 4:14 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

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Originally posted by pzadvance:
Hey, as a newcomer to both Firefly and BSG, I'm sure you guys already know this, but I'll post it anyway.

My friend lent me the first season of BSG after I heard it was voted one of the top 10 TV dramas of the year by the AFI. I figured I oughta check it out. I've seen Serenity, and own FIrefly (but have yet to see all of it), but I didn't watch it when it originally aired.

That's absolutely incredible! Beyond belief! You haven't watched all of Firefly yet??!! Gracious!

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.net

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Friday, December 16, 2005 4:21 AM

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.net

whoo, that is pretty cool pizmobeach. <|;o}

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Friday, December 16, 2005 4:30 AM

PZADVANCE

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
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Originally posted by pzadvance:
Hey, as a newcomer to both Firefly and BSG, I'm sure you guys already know this, but I'll post it anyway.

My friend lent me the first season of BSG after I heard it was voted one of the top 10 TV dramas of the year by the AFI. I figured I oughta check it out. I've seen Serenity, and own FIrefly (but have yet to see all of it), but I didn't watch it when it originally aired.

That's absolutely incredible! Beyond belief! You haven't watched all of Firefly yet??!! Gracious!

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.net

Lol, I watched enough of last summer's SciFi Channel reruns to know I absolutely loved the show, and bought the DVD with about 5 or 6 episodes still to watch. Now I'm rewatching the whole series with my brother, but it's hard to find time to watch it. I can't wait to finish, though!

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Friday, December 16, 2005 4:45 AM

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
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Originally posted by pzadvance:
Hey, as a newcomer to both Firefly and BSG, I'm sure you guys already know this, but I'll post it anyway.

My friend lent me the first season of BSG after I heard it was voted one of the top 10 TV dramas of the year by the AFI. I figured I oughta check it out. I've seen Serenity, and own FIrefly (but have yet to see all of it), but I didn't watch it when it originally aired.

That's absolutely incredible! Beyond belief! You haven't watched all of Firefly yet??!! Gracious!

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.net

I've been listening. Very good. Very good. I was already a member of 365. Thanks for the site post. I'll be here everyday!

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Friday, December 16, 2005 5:25 AM

GROUNDED

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Originally posted by pzadvance:
For anyone who hasn't seen BSG, they also steal some stuff from Firefly, such as the quick camera movements and zooms.

It's not really stealing - the same studio (Zoic) produced the effects for both series.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 5:30 AM

PSOLARIS

OMG, that's hilarious!! I love that!

Good eye!

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Friday, December 16, 2005 5:45 AM

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Originally posted by flywithmecaptn:
Oh.....ANDRE83 This may sound stupid but how old is BSG? Most folks have already been into it, but I don't have much time to watch tv and I know I've seen it but not sure when it came out and ended.

Well, the original series is from the 70's. However i've heard its quite different and i have never seen it. Personally from what i've heard, the new one sounds better.

The show is running right now. Season 1(2004 i think) + the miniseries (2003) is avalible in a box set. first 10 episodes of season 2 has aired, and the next 10 will air after newyear.

Season 3 is confirmed. I belive that will start after summer '06. Hope this helps :)

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Friday, December 16, 2005 5:56 AM

PSOLARIS

It was 1978 when the old show came around, and I believe it only lasted for one season, maybe two. I have to admit, I liked it...still do. Sure, the special effects were cheesy, but that's what we had for the late 70's, early 80's. It starred the likes of Dirk Benedict (Faceman from the A-Team), and Lorne Greene, and Jane Seymour was even on it for a few episodes. I've seen some of the new BSG, and yes, the special effects are better...much better, however I have problems getting past the fact that they turned both Starbuck and Boomer into girls, or that uh...perhaps this is spoiler territory...

Select to view spoiler:

That Boomer is a cylon!!

Perhaps I should take ya'lls advice and just sit and watch for a spell...perhaps it'll grow on me. Especially since they're giving shout outs to our beloved show!

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Friday, December 16, 2005 7:28 AM

At first I avoided the new battlestar Galactica because I had liked the the original battlstar Galactica, but once itunes started offering all the new BSGs for downloading into the new video ipod...I downloaded the whole mini-series plus season 1 and season 2.

I watched them all. My opinion of the new BSG is that its GREAT/WOMDERFUL....its so much better than the original BSG to the point where I would gladly forget that the original even existed.

The characters are awesome, and the stories are thoughtfully put together, and the visuals just keep you wanting more. The New BSG's "Starbuck" is my hero!!! The new Apollo is better than the old one, and the new Boomer is also a better character than the old one, even if she is living a tragic life.

At 1st I was angry that they made Starbuck and Boomer women instead of men like the were in 1978, and I was annoyed that in this new BSG, they made colonel Tigh a weak, old, bitter, drunk. I was also not amused that in this new version of BSG, Zack had already died, but now that I have watched the whole thing, I think that the people who put the new BSG together, seriously know what they are doing, and the show is better than the old one could ever be.

I love the fact that the President of the 12 colonies is aboard the Galactica, I also find it interesting that the Cylons believe in God, and that Baltar is stuck with that Cylon woman in his head....good twist of the story.

The new BSG is exciting, scary, dark, thoughtful, relaxing, and just about the best bit of sci-fi on television right now.

The difference between the old BSG and NEW:

Old - Starbuck is a cigar chomping guy with an additude and really bad lines.

NEW- Starbuck is a cigar chomping woman with plenty of additude, and she's smart, loveable, unstable, and the best fighter pilot in the fleet.

OLD - Boomer is just some black fighter pilot that hung around Starbuck.

NEW - Boomer is an asian female, Raptor pilot that doesnt know she's a cylon and there are copies of her everywhere; her role is tragic.

OLD - Colonel Tigh is a dignified 2nd in command to Adama. His roles is rather empty.

NEW - Colonel Tigh is a drunken, old, weak, fool who cant stand Starbuck, and he has a loud-mouthed wife, and he's always drinking from this flask that he keeps on his person.

OLD - Apollo is a handsome son of Adama. He's a fighter pilot, he's compassionate, and he makes great speeches.

NEW - Apollo is arrogant and somewhat a "daddy's boy" but he's strong and a good fighter pilot and is NOT good at speeches.

OLD - Adama is a good leader. he's thoughtful and wise.

NEW - Adama is a good leader. he's angry, and does not run away from a fight. He makes harsh decisions sometimes, and he holds grudges.

OLD - The famous Commander Cain is a "Patton" like character that commands the famous Pegasus battlestar.

NEW - This Commander Cain is "Admiral Cain" and she is a woman, and there is nothing famous about this person, or her shipload of thugs, and I hate her.

OLD - Boxy is a lovable kid, so lovable that when the Cylons were in the process of destroying all the 12 colonies, some soldiers took some time off from defending the colonies to help boxy get over the death of his "daggit" The kid was so loveable that he even got his own theme song in the orignal BSG soundtrack.

NEW - Boxy is a depressed kid who lost both his parents...all the people on the Galactica did was give him a cookie and told him to sit down and shut up and you never see the kid after that.

OLD - Baltar was some kind of government offical that who had hammered-out some kind of peace deal with the Cylons, which allowed the Cylons to wipe out the entire fleet, and led the way to the fall of the colonies. Baltar was a cartoon character.

NEW - Baltar is a well known scientist, who is a womanizer, and he's also very much into his own ego...his mistake is that he hooked up with the wrong woman who just happened to turn out to be a cylon.

If any of you havent bothered to watch the new BSG, i say go out and get it. start with the mini-series first, and watch everything in order.

Besides Firefly/Serenity, the new BSG is the best sci-fi I've enjoyed all year, and I can't WAIT for season 3!

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Friday, December 16, 2005 7:35 AM

ERINBC

Somebody may have put this in one of the previous replies, my computer won't load them for some reason. Just wanted to add that Serenity makes a cameo in BSG, but the Galactica also makes a cameo in Serenity. It's decked out as one of the big Reaver ships, or at least one of them looks an awful lot like Galactica.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 7:39 AM

Wow! Sounds excellent. I better get watching. Thanks for all the info guys.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 10:15 AM

I think most of your responses here are excactly what i meen. The show grows on you.

And for you who didnt like the sharon you saw, there is copies you know, and the other sharon (later "main" sharon) is truly one of the best caracters in the show. Trust me, just watch on. You'll like it.

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Friday, December 16, 2005 10:58 AM

SAMEERTIA

Sorry.
I have enough sexual identity issues without seeing my childhood hero as a woman.

Good catch on spotting the Firefly, though! :D

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Friday, December 16, 2005 11:04 AM

BROWNEDSHORTS

I just wanted to toss in my expression of love for the new BSG. Interestingly, whether intentionally or not, it owes a lot to Joss's style of television writing, i.e., building up tension through character relationships that have plot consequences, sometimes many episodes down the road. BSG's characters are complex, and like Joss's, they each have an agenda, which can't be reduced to simple good guy/bad guy TV archetypes.

Another point to be made is that I think BSG might just be the wedge to bring Firefly back to TV. If BSG continues to gather critical acclaim and to build a crossover audience for thoughtful sci-fi, then maybe the powers-that-be will take a second look at Firefly, which really is BSG's spiritual predecessor in many respects.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Brownedshorts:
I just wanted to toss in my expression of love for the new BSG. Interestingly, whether intentionally or not, it owes a lot to Joss's style of television writing, i.e., building up tension through character relationships that have plot consequences, sometimes many episodes down the road. BSG's characters are complex, and like Joss's, they each have an agenda, which can't be reduced to simple good guy/bad guy TV archetypes.

Another point to be made is that I think BSG might just be the wedge to bring Firefly back to TV. If BSG continues to gather critical acclaim and to build a crossover audience for thoughtful sci-fi, then maybe the powers-that-be will take a second look at Firefly, which really is BSG's spiritual predecessor in many respects.

Looks like I'm reallllly going to have to watch now. I don't know if anything can live up to FF though. But, I will give it a chance.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 12:55 PM

BJD

BSG is my new addiction... at least they're still making it. Just finished getting caught up late last night - and was soooo disappointed to find out that the next episode isn't out until next year.... why can't they come out with a new show every night?

I wish you hundreds of fat children.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 1:32 PM

CALHOUN

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SameErtia wrote:
Friday, December 16, 2005 10:58
Sorry.
I have enough sexual identity issues without seeing my childhood hero as a woman.

Good catch on spotting the Firefly, though! :D

It took me a while to come to terms with Starbuck as a woman also but it works well.

I cant believe all you people just discovering serenity in BSG now.. where y'all been?

The new Battlestar Galactica is a very close second to Firefly for all time best TV show for me.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 1:32 PM

The new BSG IS VERY addictive. I went into expecting to hate it....I just wanted to pick it apart, but I found it to be the most engaging of all shows.

The people who love the old Starbuck and Boomer...get over it. The original Starbuck had no real personality except for the cigar-chomping and the bad jokes, and neither did the original Boomer, and even Colonel Tigh in the orginal had no real personality. The Starbuck of the new BSG is loaded with personality, and so is Boomer and her other copies, and even Tigh, who is a drunk, is much more colorful, and engaging than the original Tigh.

The best change of all in the new BSG is the Cylons! They are amazing, and they have a religion, and a plan!

The one thing that was bothering me as I watched this new show, was that the BSG group was trying to act like a family, which I thought they totally failed at, but once the Pegasus showed up with that boat load of thugs, and once they showed how mean they were, I finally got that the people on the Galactica had indeed formed a family, and a pretty good one at that. God! I hate admiral Cain!

The Cylons may have been mean, and they may have wiped out the human colonies, but the concept of rape is new to them, and it made my blood boil knowing that some of the Pegasus crew raped a Cylon... a whole new low for the human race. I hope the Galactic blows the Pegasus, and their evil crew up during the next 10 episodes of season II.

Sorry for all the spoilers.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 2:23 PM

CALHOUN

Yeah whats with the raping a cylon thing? Who would risk sticking their manhood into a dangerous and violent machine with super strength?

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Friday, December 16, 2005 4:01 PM

Forgive my low view of the human race, but yes, those bastards raped a cylon. In real life I believe we would have done the same....I hate humanity.

I think I'm getting more bitter every year.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 5:41 PM

THEBLACKRABBIT

BSG is the mutts

I don't knw about it rubbing shoulders with firefly though. I felt BSG had everything firefly had bar the warmth.

that for me is what i love about firefly, the warmth of the characters. It's like i realy feel drawn to them. for example kaylee, now she if a fine looking woman, but the lust which as a red blooded male, i should feel is not there. Why, because she feels like, well family.

I don't want to be a nerd, this kind of devout love seems bordering on it. but dammit, that show makes me feel warm inside.

I am drunk on precious lovely booze!! and i love you all. My fellow browncoats. Mr Joss. The lovely cast. Dammit i love you all.

I look forward to reading the replies tomorrow, because i know they will contain the same huggy warmth this is written it.

Love John.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 6:18 PM

VIOLETRIX

i'm going to avoid reading all the posts, since i've just netflixed all the BSG seasons and am planning to start watching BSG. i heard from a really good friend that Zoic did the effects, so that actually led to the aforementioned netflixing.

that screenshot is really cool! now i'm excited to catch up on BSG. said friend is very into it.

http://violetrix.blogspot.com
the arithmetic of absence

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Friday, December 16, 2005 6:24 PM

FIVEBYFIVE

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A LOT of information!

Thanks. I've just recently got into this show, and i'd never seen the original Battlestar for comparison. I understand now why it got everyone so upset. It's like someone turned Spock and Bones into women, and made Scotty British or something.

Still, I have no qualms with the 'reimagining' of BSG, and I think it's probably the best sci-fi show on TV right now.

Didn't know about the iTunes thing. How much is an episode, is it .99 like a song?

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Friday, December 16, 2005 6:42 PM

The Mini-series is $15.00. Its only 4 episodes...2 of them are about an hour, and the other two are 40 minutes each.

Battlestar Galactica, Season 1 has 13 episodes, and its $25.87 for the whole season, or $1.99 per episode.

Battlestar Galactica, Season 2 partial, is only $19.90 for 10 episodes, or $1.99 per episode.

You can download them into your new ipod video along with Firefly and Serenity.

I found this nifty program on the internet that enables you to burn your DvDs straight into your ipod. I have every Firefly Episode in it, and when Serenity comes out, I'm going to continue my software piracy endeavors, and burn it into the ole ipod also.

Another blow for freedom...

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Friday, December 16, 2005 7:24 PM

NCBROWNCOAT

Tried to watch the miniseries earlier this week and just couldn't get into it for some reason. Should I netfix it again and give it another try?

BTW I remember the original BSG and it was sorta cheesy.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 7:39 PM