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Really good job guys.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:17 PM

As much as I respect the Firefly fan group, this is pretty disapointing:

From the SciFi Wire:

Because fans have manipulated the SCI FI Wire poll on Joss Whedon's next project, the editors have deleted it and replaced it with a new poll.

People, have a little self control.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:21 PM

NIRVANA

One thought... do we know it was the serenity fans that skunked the poll? maybe in the hours before something was amiss on the other end - like 1000 spike fans suddenly swamped it?

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:32 PM

STEALTHGUY

Exactly! I checked it yesterday, and Firefly was way ahead. All of a sudden, today Spike was tied with it. I was disappointed to see that, but I wouldn't be surprised if a Spike fan stuffed the ballot box. I wouldn't go and blame Firefly fans straight away.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:55 PM

SIKKUKUT

Yeah, I'm seeing no indication that that was us.

As far as I know, we're usually pretty good about pumping our numbers using recruitment rather than trickery. And even if it was us (not saying it's impossible), there's no *indication* that it was us.

Maybe hold off on the finger-pointing, then?

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:59 PM

STDOUBT

Quote:
People, have a little self control.

Strikes me as slightly idiotic to expext this kind
of poll to go down with 100% acuracy. If they want
scientific data as to which series would win, they
need to take the time to provide for user-logins so
each vote is unique. Setting up a poll like that
and expecting accuracy just shows ignorance of the
medium. I'm not surprized, but I'm calling SciFi
the dumbasses here -not the fans.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:13 PM

GLOBLABSURDITY

Quote:
Originally posted by STDOUBT:
Quote:
People, have a little self control.

Strikes me as slightly idiotic to expext this kind
of poll to go down with 100% acuracy. If they want
scientific data as to which series would win, they
need to take the time to provide for user-logins so
each vote is unique. Setting up a poll like that
and expecting accuracy just shows ignorance of the
medium. I'm not surprized, but I'm calling SciFi
the dumbasses here -not the fans.

Exactly! What happened is to be expected--it was a Joss Whedon poll and it will be the fans that are inputting there. Obviously--they know where the biggest fan base lies--and someone must not like it. I mean, to assume so. Most likely it will be the Serenity & Firefly fans frequenting the Sci-Fi website, ya think?! Grrrr...

*Never judge a book by it's movie*
*The heart is an artist that paints over what profoundly disturbs it, leaving on the canvas a less dark,less sharp version of the truth*--D.Koontz (Forever Odd)

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:58 PM

SIMONWHO

Come on. It was obviously us. There's no huge battalion of Spike fans ready to charge any poll they see.

But then again, our swamping does indicate a strength of feeling. And given that Revenge of the Utter Sith has just done well at the People's Choice awards (another online voting thingy), it's not just Serenity fans that charge into polls.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:09 PM

PDCHARLES

What happened? He see your face?

Quote:
Originally posted by Sniper:

People, have a little self control.

People? Yes, our bad... We all got together and had our own little "Poll Pumpin' Shindig"

A case of delinquent Malus Pumila...

U gonna be smart here Riva?!?

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:43 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
Come on. It was obviously us. There's no huge battalion of Spike fans ready to charge any poll they see.

Nope, but there is an acre of Buffy & Angel fans who would like to see their 'verses continued in any form possible. Could be the skewed the poll, not browncoats.

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:58 AM

HIXIE129

Could you provide a link to that article , please.

thanks
ron

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:29 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC

Quote:
Originally posted by nirvana:
One thought... do we know it was the serenity fans that skunked the poll? maybe in the hours before something was amiss on the other end - like 1000 spike fans suddenly swamped it?

That’s what I said.

In the other thread about this someone quoted an unofficial, and thus possibly fabricated, statement that said Spike forums (such things exist?) had instructions on how to bypass safegaurds and vote a hell of a lot more than they should have.

The phrasing implied, though did not state, that we were not the accused party.

As I said, unofficial, but it is something to consider.

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:42 PM

J6NGO1977

A fan spike? is that what made the Film 2005 movie of the year in the UK?

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:05 PM

NEVERED

Quote:
Originally posted by Sniper:
As much as I respect the Firefly fan group, this is pretty disapointing:

From the SciFi Wire:

Because fans have manipulated the SCI FI Wire poll on Joss Whedon's next project, the editors have deleted it and replaced it with a new poll.

People, have a little self control.

so...

they took the poll down because people were voting for the shows they liked?

holy shit! never would have thought!

unless people started cracking it and voting more than once, i don't see what they are complaining about.

is it now 'unfair' that firefly has more fans than joss's other shows?

or is it just 'unfair' that we voted for firefly instead of the shows we don't like?

i know! how about they just put up a 'poll' saying that all of his shows are loved equally! that way, the ones with less fans don't feel left out because nobody voted for them!

of course, that does jack shit in terms of finding out which of his shows people want back, but that's what the first poll was for, and we can see how well that went.

[disclaimer: if someone actually did crack the site and break the numbers, please disregard this rant. but if they just took it down because we all voted for a show we love and they don't like that, then the rant is, by all means, valid.]

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Friday, January 13, 2006 8:26 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC

Quote:
Originally posted by nevered:
unless people started cracking it and voting more than once, i don't see what they are complaining about.

According to an unofficial report Spike fans did just that.

Of course that is unofficial, BUT:

Nothing official or otherwise has thus far even come close to implying that we are the ones being blamed, yet everyone seems to take it as a personal insult.

-

The unofficial unconfirmed thingy said:
several readers e-mailed us detailed postings from various "Spike" bulletin boards in which fans advised each other how to hack our poll

I don't know how much stock to put into it, but I do know that nothing, no matter how suspect, has pointed the finger our way.

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Friday, January 13, 2006 2:35 PM

SAMEERTIA

Spike, I'm afraid, has 3000 screaming teen-age girls lusting after him.
No power in the verse can stop them.

Oh, and yes, you can bypass the controls. Not that we Highlander fans did it at any point. We're far too responsible for that.

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