SCIFI wire cancels poll about next Joss Whedon project 'More Serenity or Spike?' by Granite

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SCIFI wire cancels poll about next Joss Whedon project 'More Serenity or Spike?'

POSTED BY: GRANITE
UPDATED: Sunday, January 15, 2006 00:27
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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:14 AM

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http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=16442

Directly from scifiwire -

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Because fans have manipulated the SCI FI Wire poll on Joss Whedon's next project, the editors have deleted it and replaced it with a new poll.

Vote with care next time my over-zealous friends

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:18 AM

NIRVANA

this is lame and causes me confusion - are they not savvy enough to put in checks and balances to make sure people don't vote more than once? It's not rocketscience...

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:24 AM

FOLLOWMAL

I am surprised too, that they didn't have a way to block people from voting more than once. I voted once.... happy to do it and was hoping that the results were accurate and that everyone really did want more Firefly/Serenity.

I'm sorry to see this. I was hoping that SciFi might be a possible home for the next incarnation of our BDH's. I don't like that this might reflect badly on us.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:36 AM

CBY

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Originally posted by FollowMal:
I am surprised too, that they didn't have a way to block people from voting more than once

You can't. Cookies and browser cache can be deleted, dynamic IPs can be changed easily, registration forms can be filled with crap, java and javascript can be disabled, e-Mail verification can be tricked...

Personally I think internet polls are a waste of time because of their latent defects.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:41 AM

FOLLOWMAL

Then, if the polls can be manipulated, and it doesn't really matter, why should they care so much as to take the poll down? Doesn't make sense to me. If they know it can be inaccurate.... then they should just let it stay the way it is.

Why take it down?

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:50 AM

CBY

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Originally posted by FollowMal:

Why take it down?

I guess it must have been really extreme this time.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:57 AM

FREERADICAL42

Had they considered, perhaps, that more people LIKE Serenity than Spike? It's kind of obvious, given that DVD sales for Firefly and Serenity are way, way higher than those for Buffyverse products.

"See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like."

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:06 AM

ANDRE83

They didnt like the result....as always. Everyone hates us :(

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:07 AM

JAYRO

Perhaps the poll result was not to F*x's liking?

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:15 AM

STORYMARK

Don't go getting all paranoid now, folks. I seriously doubt Fox bothered to go to the trouble of asking another network to shut down a poll on that other network's site. I doubt they were even aware of it.

And I think the fact that Buffy DVD sales are lower than Firefly/Serenity speaks more to the fact that it's a show that's been airing a minimum of 2 times a day for the last 5 years, and a full set of the series runs $200+ rather than $40.

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:33 AM

THATDUDE90210

Is that what the "Spike" in that poll meant? I had no idea, I don't follow Buffy/Angel stuff. I thought they meant for Joss to make something for the Spike network.

No wonder the vote was almost matching Serenity/Firefly, I thought it was just some obscessive people who hated the Browncoats messing with them. Heh.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:41 AM

STORYMARK

Yeah, Joss has been hinting as a Spike TV movie (and ones for variouse other Buffy/Angel supporting characters) since Angel was cancelled. Lately the word has shifted to indicate direct-to-DVD as a more likely avenue.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:42 PM

PSOLARIS

Ok, I took this poll, and I only voted once. But in looking over the poll page, no where does it say you're allowed to only vote once. So if we are all to abide by these "rules" then shouldn't they post them? Warning: only vote once. Voting more than once will result in the poll being deleted if we here at SciFi feel the voting results are being messed with.

And even at that, like someone mentioned above, there is more outcry for this show than there is in the Buffyverse...couldn't it possibly be beyond all freaking reasonable doubt that more people want Serenity!!! DUH!

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:09 PM

SIMONF

Email SciFi.com about the poll, you might be interested in the answer.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:10 PM

PSOLARIS

Did you do that Simon?

Psolaris

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:19 PM

SIMONF

This is an unconfirmed (and I state again unconfirmed - it came from another board) note from SciFi.com about why the poll was pulled.

"Thanks for your note. We have tried to build in safeguards against fan manipulation of the polls. You're right that some Serenity fans had voted multiple times, but not to the extent of the fans on this particular poll. The number of responses was quadruple our normal amount, which raised a red flag. In addition, several readers e-mailed us detailed postings from various "Spike" bulletin boards in which fans advised each other how to hack our poll to enable themselves to vote hundreds and hundreds of times, which was also unprecedented.

That's what led to the decision to pull the poll; it wasn't really representative of what SCI FI Wire readers felt and was unfair to those who voted only once."

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:06 PM

PSOLARIS

Gah...how stupid was that for people to post how to hack the site's poll. Well I hope that they know that the Serenity numbers were far more real and that what we all really want is more Serenity.

sigh

EDIT: Thanks for posting that Simon...

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:22 PM

DRU

I want both a Spike movie and a Firefly movie, but I voted once for Firefly.

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:33 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC

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Because fans have manipulated the SCI FI Wire poll on Joss Whedon's next project, the editors have deleted it and replaced it with a new poll.

Why does everyone immediately assume they are accusing us? If this is all that was stated there is no implication we are the ones accused of cheating.

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Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:07 AM

FREERADICAL42

I think that people felt accused was because Firefly was winning?

"See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like."

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Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:27 AM

BROWNFIELDCOAT

I am both sorry and glad I missed that poll. Sorry because I would have put a vote in for Serenity, without doubt. Spike was a great character for the Buffy and Angel series, but I personally didn't care enough about the character to see more of him. Glad I missed the poll because it appears my one vote wouldn't have mattered anyway, since the poll was canceled. Just a minor opinion thrown out there.

See you in time and relative dimensions in space

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