OMG, I just realized something....about Wash *Spoilers, if we must still say it* by chrisisall

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OMG, I just realized something....about Wash *Spoilers, if we must still say it*

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Saturday, January 14, 2006 16:48
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Monday, January 9, 2006 4:31 AM

I’m Jayne, again. And proud of it.

Also, with all due respect to Chris, I don’t think Joss’s choice was that hard, since it was made by Alan. Joss pretty much had to kill off Wash, because other wise he’d have to explain the new pilots, Coy and Vance, if the series ever came back, and that’s never good.

Book on the other hand Book might have been a hard decision, but still Joss is cold. I personally, think he got a thrill out of killing both of them.

Hamlet gets killed in the last act!

I jest. He actually lives on to become King of Jamaica.

Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

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Monday, January 9, 2006 7:04 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Joss pretty much had to kill off Wash, because other wise he’d have to explain the new pilots, Coy and Vance, if the series ever came back, and that’s never good.

Coy and Vance????
Did I miss something in an interview or commentary somewhere?

Always the last to know Chrisisall

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Monday, January 9, 2006 7:14 AM

MTNSCOTT

"Coy and Vance" filled in for "Bo and Luke"

Only the half mad are wholly alive!
E.A.

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Monday, January 9, 2006 7:26 AM

CHRISISALL

Oh, on 'The Dukes Of Ariel', huh?

Chrisisall

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:13 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Joss pretty much had to kill off Wash, because other wise he’d have to explain the new pilots, Coy and Vance, if the series ever came back, and that’s never good.

Coy and Vance????
Did I miss something in an interview or commentary somewhere?

Always the last to know Chrisisall

Obscure cultural reference. Just keeping you on your toes.

Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:03 PM

ANONYMOUS1

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

Which leads me to believe that in killing *****, Joss killed a part of himself in there, too.
Any who believe that's an easy choice on the part of a creator can go rent Star Trek 3, as heartfelt as it is, it's still revisionist junk.
Joss chose a hard, but truthful path, as he did with ***** in Buffy.

Just another observation.

You do realize that River can at least hear ghosts.

Just another observation.

For example:

From Serenity the Official Visual Companion page 128

"I can hear them all and they're saying nothing!"

From the Firefly Reaver wannabe episode

River says "It's a ghost."

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:07 PM

THEGREYJEDI

Roight. So I took that test. I get a blank page. Wtf, mate? Am I non-existant in the 'Verse?! *weeps!*

Also, I completely get your point on the killing of Wash thing. All or nothing.

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:11 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by TheGreyJedi:
Roight. So I took that test. I get a blank page. Wtf, mate? Am I non-existant in the 'Verse?! *weeps!*

Don't sweat it TGJ, you're Zoe.
(I came this close *holds up two fingers real near each other* to getting her myself!

ChrisisallWash

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Friday, January 13, 2006 12:40 PM

LOLA

wow..fun fun quiz!
I came back as Zoe 100% AND Kaylee 100%..same time..
I knew I was a little mix of the two..but it made me happy.
I think one of my favorite things about Firefly is Zoes' relationship with Wash..they did such a wonderful job of conveying such deep emotional attachment..I just loved watching them interact.
I have actually put off seeing Serenity..'cause I just can't bear to see Wash go yet..aren't I a freak!
I miss the series like crazy..I have never been a fan of sci-fi before..my husband totally got me hooked on Firefly
good to find more of the same folks here :)
Anyone else in the pacific NW?

Lola

"ever sailed on a Firefly?"

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Friday, January 13, 2006 1:52 PM

UNSARDONIC

huh... I came out kinda like River, Zoe, Kaylee & Book all-of-'em-mushed-together, like this:

You are River (the site declares - it seems to go unequivocably one way no matter how close other traits are)

River - 85%
Zoe - 80%
Kaylee - 75%
Derrial Book - 75%
Malcolm - 65%
Dr. Simon Tam - 60%
Inara - 55%
Wash - 45%
A Reaver - 25%
Alliance - 25%
Jayne - 15%

I also find it interesting that I'm 25%, both, a reaver & Alliance (and both tendencies stronger than Jayne-ness)... maybe I shouldn't have mentioned the cannibalism thing... well, in all honesty, I didn't but, having strong River tendencies, I projected that the test would "think" that. Maybe.

Anyway the result is appropriate as River's, indeed, my favorite character on this crew - even if the others have all the cool retorts. I mean, when, way back when FF was still on the air and only just a few episodes old, I'd decided that she would become the show's focus because the signposts for her character-arc indicated she was the next step in the evolution of humanity. That's what I decided... for what it's worth.

Now this makes me think... there's a great deal of conversation between posters about their identification with this, that or the other crewmember, but I don't think I find too many posters having too much to say about, or identifying with, Inara and, I think she's had - over the span of the series & the BDM - an ever-increasingly interesting character-arc, one that has the potential to make her an evermore-indispensable part of the crew. I remember in Joss's commentaries during the BDM DVD's extra-scenes section, how she came to him after most of her scenes were cut, concerned that she "just sucked." But my point is that the show would be HUGEly diminished without her and I, for one, would be unhappy to the point of devastation if she weren't part of the BDS/series. in fact, we'd ALL be better off if there were more Inara's in our lives

If there aren't more Inara's in my life by "EIGHT O'CLOCK, DAY ONE(!)," "your friends will think you're all stupid, inbred stacks of meat."

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Friday, January 13, 2006 2:15 PM

THECOLLECTOR

Too bad I forgot to keep it... I came up 65% Mal and 65% Simon...

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Friday, January 13, 2006 3:10 PM

OMELET

Your results:
You are Kaylee Frye (Ship Mechanic)

Kaylee Frye (Ship Mechanic)		100%
Derrial Book (Shepherd)		80%
Zoe Washburne (Second-in-command)		60%
Wash (Ship Pilot)		60%
Malcolm Reynolds (Captain)		55%
Inara Serra (Companion)		50%
Jayne Cobb (Mercenary)		30%
Dr. Simon Tam (Ship Medic)		30%
Alliance		30%
River (Stowaway)		20%
A Reaver (Cannibal)		10%

You are good at fixing things.
You are usually cheerful.
You appreciate being treated
with delicacy and specialness.

HREF=" Click" target="_BLANK">http://www.seabreezecomputers.com/serenity">Click here to take the Serenity Firefly Personality Test

How did I get Book as my second choice? Oh well, at least I ain't a Reaver.

Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

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Friday, January 13, 2006 4:56 PM

JOELIST

Hi all,

I just did the test, this is the result:

Your results:
You are Derrial Book (Shepherd)

Derrial Book (Shepherd)		90%
River (Stowaway)		75%
Zoe Washburne (Second-in-command)		70%
Kaylee Frye (Ship Mechanic)		65%
Dr. Simon Tam (Ship Medic)		65%
Wash (Ship Pilot)		45%
Jayne Cobb (Mercenary)		45%
Malcolm Reynolds (Captain)		40%
A Reaver (Cannibal)		40%
Alliance		40%
Inara Serra (Companion)		25%

Even though you are holy
you have a mysterious past.
You aren't married.
Have you taken a vow of celibacy?

HREF=" Click" target="_BLANK">http://www.seabreezecomputers.com/serenity">Click here to take the "Which Serenity character are you?" quiz...

Pretty funny, I am either Shephers Book or River (and I'm a guy no less...)

Trying to learn to show God's love daily.

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Friday, January 13, 2006 5:34 PM

LIQUIDATOM

Shiny!! I'm Mal!

Bookmark this page because "Which Star Trek Character Are You? Quiz" is coming soon (CTRL-D)

Your results:
You are Malcolm Reynolds (Captain)
Malcolm Reynolds (Captain) 75%
Zoe Washburne (Second-in-command) 55%
Jayne Cobb (Mercenary) 50%
Derrial Book (Shepherd) 45%
Kaylee Frye (Ship Mechanic) 40%
River (Stowaway) 40%
Inara Serra (Companion) 35%
Dr. Simon Tam (Ship Medic) 35%
Wash (Ship Pilot) 35%
Alliance 35%
A Reaver (Cannibal) 15%

It must have been the "pretty" question that put me over.

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Saturday, January 14, 2006 12:12 PM

COPILOTLEONARD

You are a pilot with a good
if not silly sense of humor.
You take pride in your collection of toys.
You love your significant other.

Wash (Ship Pilot)

75%
Kaylee Frye (Ship Mechanic)

65%
Zoe Washburne (Second-in-command)

55%
Dr. Simon Tam (Ship Medic)

55%
Malcolm Reynolds (Captain)

50%
Derrial Book (Shepherd)

45%
Inara Serra (Companion)

40%
Jayne Cobb (Mercenary)

30%
River (Stowaway)

25%
Alliance

25%
A Reaver (Cannibal)

15%

Not suprising, I'm always Wash

"I'm going down too quick. Likely crash and kill us all"

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Saturday, January 14, 2006 12:24 PM

BOWIE

you are Jayne Cob,
Jayne Cobb (Mercenary)80%
Derrial Book (Shepherd)75%
Zoe Washburne (Second-in-command)55%
Kaylee Frye (Ship Mechanic)55%
Malcolm Reynolds (Captain)55%
River (Stowaway)30%
Alliance30%
A Reaver (Cannibal)25%
Dr. Simon Tam (Ship Medic)10%
Inara Serra (Companion)10%
Wash (Ship Pilot)10%

I find it funny that the two people I resemble most are Jayne and Book..... something seems wrong there to me....

If you play Nationstates.net check out the region Firefly.

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Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:19 PM

DRUIDESS

I got 0% Wash and 30% Alliance ... and the mutant who sees ghosts yet doesn't believe in god (me) got 45% River and 60% Book. Yeah, I'm gonna need therapy.

You are Malcolm Reynolds (Captain)Malcolm Reynolds (Captain) 70%
Zoe Washburne (Second-in-command) 70%
Derrial Book (Shepherd) 60%
River (Stowaway) 45%
Dr. Simon Tam (Ship Medic) 40%
Kaylee Frye (Ship Mechanic) 35%
Jayne Cobb (Mercenary) 35%
Alliance 30%
Inara Serra (Companion) 20%
Wash (Ship Pilot) 0%
A Reaver (Cannibal) 0%

*

"The world's divided into two groups, panda's and alligator boys."

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Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:48 PM

MADMAN007

You are Kaylee Frye(Ship Mechanic)Kaylee Frye 75%
Zoe Washburne (Second-in-command) 65%
Derrial Book (Shepherd) 65%
Malcolm Reynolds (Captain) 55%
Dr. Simon Tam (Ship Medic) 55%
Wash (Ship Pilot) 50%
Inara Serra (Companion) 40%
River (Stowaway) 35%
Jayne Cobb (Mercenary) 30%
Alliance 25%
A Reaver (Cannibal) 15%

You are good at fixing things.
You are usually cheerful.
You appreciate being treated
with delicacy and specialness.

Okay, I don't care what any of you say, you're NOT getting me in that hoop dress and make me look like a sheep on its hind legs !!!

"No.....THIS is what going mad feels like.

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