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Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:00 PM
IMPRESSION
Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:28 PM
RKLENSETH
Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:35 PM
Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:44 PM
PINBALLWIZARD
Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by impression: hey your response is all im looking for. I completely realize how much you guys have gone through and I think its wonderful. I'm just trying to stir up a little more passion and get people talking again about the movie and less about stuff like ringtones. Sometimes being angered gets people to prove other people wrong. Maybe I'm wrong about that opinion.
Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:55 PM
BOWIE
Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:00 PM
Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:21 PM
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Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:27 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Having only recently stumbled into the Firefly 'verse in the summer of '05, and this site shortly after that, I certainly can't speak for everyone (or for anyone but myself, truth be known...), but my feeling is that maybe, just MAYBE, the "old guard" original Browncoats might be just a little bit... y'know... tired... from the battle. Look at what Joss, his crew, and these fans did: they resurrected the 'verse from what was surely a certain death. That kind of miracling will plumb wear a person out sometimes. This is where the new recruits come in. You. Me. All the people who'd never heard of or seen Firefly before the movie came out, or who'd only just recently found this little corner of the 'verse. We're the reinforcements the Browncoats have been waiting for; we're they're air cover. And when we have to be, we're the ones who need to carry them when they can't crawl any more. I feel more and more confident that there WILL be a return of Firefly and/or Serenity, be it on the big screen or the small one, but it's not going to happen tomorrow. If the project got picked up by a network or greenlighted by a studio tomorrow, you'd still be looking at a year or more before you'd see it on the screen. Meanwhile, Joss has prior commitments to meet, and the fans who worked so amazingly hard at getting Serenity made get a chance for some well-earned rest while they bask in the glory of the movie, and while the studio counts up its money and decides whether there's any life left in that cantankerous old cargo ship. WE know Serenity's got plenty of life left in her, but hearing it from a pack of rabid fans ain't quite the same as hearing it from the studio accountants. My bet is that they WILL figure out that there's money to be made with Serenity, Firefly, and any sequels - Star Wars paved the way in showing the industry how to merchandise a product and then build on that fanbase with new merchandise and new products. The way I see it, any Firefly/Serenity continuation, be it on the small screen or the large, not only increases the chances of gaining a widening audience for each new story, but also helps drive further sales of the earlier installations of the story. LIke I said before, that's *MY* opinion on where we're at. I could be completely wrong. For now, probably the best thing we as fans can do is: 1) Keep spreading the word. You can't stop the signal. Another member here had a wonderfully devious plan to drive Firefly DVD sales - he loans out the first two disks of the series, and if the people watch it and want more, they have to buy the series for themselves! Talk about geurilla marketing! It's brilliant, and simple. 2) Put our money where our mouth is. Instead of firing off angry petitions and e-mails to Fox, Sci-Fi, and Universal, let's start supporting the 'verse with our wallets. Buy the DVDs, buy the comics/graphic novels/video companions, buy the licensed goods (few as they are right now). Fox & company understand fans and fan support, but they don't really care about them - at least not as much as they care about MONEY. If they see that Firefly, Serenity, and the licensed merchandise are turning real live profits, their pointy little ears will perk right up. As a f'rinstance on the merchandising thing, check out HotTopic; they had a run of licensed Serenity T-shirts available online and at a few of their stores, and they were all sold out within a week. As someone who used to wholesale licensed goods, I can tell you for certain that that kind of turnaround gets peoples' attention. 3) Keep a good attitude. Never give up, and never lay down arms. You're in good company here - everybody here is here not because they *like* Firefly; they're here becaue they LOVE it. I stand in complete awe of the fans who have been here since the beginning. To paraphrase Xander Harris from Buffy, they're not "special"; they are extraordinary. They're far from giving up, and all of them want more stories from the Firefly universe. These aren't people who are going to "give up" just because they got a movie, or because that movie wasn't the biggest box-office draw of the year. Remember, these are people who stood up defiantly after their favorite little half-season show was CANCELLED, and they fought long and hard for it. And they won the battle. We'll keep on spreading the word and keep the signal going. Someone somewhere is going to receive our message. "You can't take the sky from me." Mike
Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:53 PM
Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:40 PM
Quote:Firefly should have been forgotten, Serenity should have never existed, and we shouldn't be here. The Browncoats should have died and been forgotten in the rocky valley of Serenity. And yet we still fly.
Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:49 PM
BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN
Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:15 PM
HJERMSTED
Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Hjermsted: This is just a little lull period between Firefly/Serenity projects. Even if, by some miracle, the money for a new Serenity-based TV season or movie were raised tomorrow... Joss has two unrelated movies to write and direct first. Realistically, the soonest anything new can happen with Firefly/Serenity is probably 2009 and that's only if the project goes into production by summer 2008. Browncoats, don't burn yourself out in the short-term. Immediate results will not happen here. As long as everyone's prepared for a long-term struggle, our mighty-ness will pay off. Keep turning new people on to the show... encourage them to buy the DVDs and everything else will take care of itself. mattro PS: Oh yeah, it won't hurt to go see Wonder Woman and Goners when they come out. The higher Joss' profile in Hollywood rises, the better the chances of further Serenity/Firefly adventures.
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