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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
It is based on controversial theories from some time ago. So, whether these theories are correct is still open for debate, never mind if they can be applied practically.

I at least will wait to see if the theory holds water before I begin to get my hopes up.

Basically, to say that the media jumped the gun here is rather an understatement.

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Originally posted by rplackett:
The article mentions 'Z' a z pinch Inertial confinement fusion machine at scandia national labs. Yes it can produce those fields but only for nanoseconds and to be farnk its absolutly ENORMOUS! so you probaly wouldnt get very far if you need a machine like that to make a 50 micoron extra dimension (the size of the things they are doing at the moment).

Also not wising to add extra credence to it by mentioning scandia, IF thre turns out to be anyhting actually hapening here it will throw quantum mechinics on its head and then the WHOLE physics community will be very interestd in it. However quantum mech and the associated particle physics have been tested pretty thoroughly already so as i say im not that hopeful that we will have a shiny new theory to play with, and even less hopeful it will lead to the USS enterprise.

Sorry i know that there are a lot of respectable theorists out there its just ive had to sit through quite a number of SUSE talks recently and im still not sure i believe ;]

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Originally posted by dc4bs:
This makes me think of a brand new show for FOX to ruin...!

This is the first though I had on reading the headline.
"Welcome to Mars express: only a three hour trip"

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Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trip
That started from this rocket port
Aboard this theoretical ship.

The mate was a mighty rocket man,
The skipper brave and sure.
Five passengers set forth that day
For a three hour tour, a three hour tour.

The engines started running rough,
The tiny ship was tossed,
If not for the courage of the fearless crew
The prototype would be lost, the prototype would be lost.

The ship set down on the surface of this uncharted desert moon
With Gilligan
The Skipper too,
The trillionaire and his wife,
The movie star
The professor and Mary Ann,
Here on Gilligans Moon.

So this is the tale of the castways,
They're here for a long, long time,
They'll have to make the best of things,
It's a gravity well climb.

The first mate and the Skipper too,
Will do their very best,
To make the others comfortable,
In the arid, airless nest.

No water, no air no protien bars,
Not a single luxury,
Like Robinson Crusoe,
As primative as can be.

So join us here each week my freinds,
You're sure to get a smile,
From seven stranded castways,
Here on "Gilligan's Moon."

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Perhaps one too many happy pills today...


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Originally posted by Rodwy:

The quantum theory is still the leading scientific theory. It has been gaining ground in the scientific wold for many years and there are huge labs trying to prove the theory by discovering. Certian subatomic particles which would greatly aid in the progress of the theory. And as some of you said that you don't care about the math or the classic Math is not my friend thing. Well math is my friend. Oh and BTW I'm only 15.

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Originally posted by Rodwy:
I want to know what you think, but I got the speed by using distance in kilometers from earth by using a kilometers per year traveling at the speed of light times light years to get distance. Than divided it by 365 and 80 to get speed and finally divided it by 300,000 to get times the speed of light.

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

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Originally posted by Rodwy:

The quantum theory is still the leading scientific theory. It has been gaining ground in the scientific wold for many years and there are huge labs trying to prove the theory by discovering. Certian subatomic particles which would greatly aid in the progress of the theory. And as some of you said that you don't care about the math or the classic Math is not my friend thing. Well math is my friend. Oh and BTW I'm only 15.

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This isn't based on standard quantum mechanics. It's based on someones feild theory (read: different). It was Burkhard Heim in the 50's, (this info is in the article). So, bearing that in mind, what's you point?

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Originally posted by Rodwy:

It all fals back on anti-matter.

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It all fals back on anti-matter.

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Which we can only create in extremely small quantities, for extremely small time intervals, which requires an ass load of energy to do.

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Originally posted by Rodwy:

Well the theory was made back in the 50's and if there were any inconsistencies they would have been filtered out. Plus even though its not based on true quantum mechanics, It is a different theory with ties to quantum mechanics.

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Anti matter could be collected from certian types of comets, but there would be certian risks upon re-entering the atmoshpere.

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Anti matter could be collected from certian types of comets, but there would be certian risks upon re-entering the atmoshpere.

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Thank you for proving that you have no clue what you're talking about. Come back when you've learned science from not science-fiction novels.

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Originally posted by Rodwy:

The stuff not mentioned in the article comes from my studies I have been studing basic quatuam mechanics and anti-matter and all that advanced stuff for 3 years I think I know the lot of it.

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Originally posted by Rodwy:

Look at my last post, I am a gifted youg teen and have studied this for a time. Look up anti-matter and you will learn that it is found naturally in certian comets and other things from the solar system.

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The stuff not mentioned in the article comes from my studies I have been studing basic quatuam mechanics and anti-matter and all that advanced stuff for 3 years I think I know the lot of it.

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So, you started learning this stuff when you were 12? Sure.

If you actually did, then you wouldn't be calling it all that "stuff." You'd be able to argue on physics terms.

So, put you're money where your mouth is and tell me about all these anti-matter comets that are flying around. Please provide links to the articles on the arXiv that support what you say.

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So, you started learning this stuff when you were 12? Sure.


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Originally posted by Rodwy:
Well the theory was made back in the 50's and if there were any inconsistencies they would have been filtered out. Plus even though its not based on true quantum mechanics, It is a different theory with ties to quantum mechanics.

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The stuff not mentioned in the article comes from my studies I have been studing basic quatuam mechanics and anti-matter and all that advanced stuff for 3 years I think I know the lot of it.

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Originally posted by rplackett:
(And if you have read angels and deamon by dan brown and believed a WORD of it please revaluate your scientific understanding)

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This leads to the question why is there so littel antimatter out there and the answer is a technical thing called CP violation, which reoughly reanslates to a slight asymmetry between the way matter and antimatter behave - they arent *quite* mirror images, and these small deviations are enough to (over the age of the universe) eat up all the antimatter.

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Not wishing to pour cold water on the whole enterprise id suggest confined singularites may be a way to go for starship power

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Charge and parity Asymmetry goes some way to explaining why there is less Anti-matter than Matter in the Universe, but it still falls short by several orders of magnitude, so there must be something else going on.

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What is it that no one cares, or you can't figure out the math, or you don't have an opinion, cause I want to know what other people think about this.

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http://www.matter-antimatter.com/

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Here's another interesting fact.



On April 22, 2002, the announcement was made that comets were discovered to be natural sources of antimatter.

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But in the past year I've gotten to study a lot more,

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I don't use scietific terms cause I really just don't like to as it seems to confuse most people, and I found that explaining it sipmly is a lot easier, for all of us.

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The stuff not mentioned in the article comes from my studies I have been studing basic quatuam mechanics and anti-matter and all that advanced stuff for 3 years I think I know the lot of it.

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