Why Won't Sci-Fi Comply? by silversurfer

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Why Won't Sci-Fi Comply?

POSTED BY: SILVERSURFER
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 18:09
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Monday, January 30, 2006 12:32 PM

Well I'm a new guy here(Firefly fans are still being converted to this day)so this question may be redundant or already discussed. I was just curious as to why Sci-Fi wouldn't pick up any form of the "Firefly" universe? It seems a sure fire success for a cable network. I'm sure it would get at least 6 million viewers, plus they would get rights to DVD sales.

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Monday, January 30, 2006 12:34 PM

FIRESTALKER

Godd question and one not easily answered. I would think it's because the movie didn't do that well in the theaters and their waiting to see what happens with the DVD's.

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Monday, January 30, 2006 1:02 PM

DONCOAT

It's all about the dollars. Firefly is not the cheapest thing you can fill a prime-time hour with, so you have to be pretty sure it's going to bring in more revenue than it costs to make and air.

So far, we Browncoats are an obsessive and dedicated bunch, but we're not a mass movement. We need to demonstrate that we represent a big and lucrative market.

Keep spreading the signal. That's the best strategy we have.

By the way, love the rhythm in your subject line. SciFi comply for FireFly? My my!

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Monday, January 30, 2006 1:14 PM

KOMELION

What if we staged a protest, or a march? You know, get all the browncoats we can and march from one point to another. Carry big signs that say stuff like “Relight Firefly” and “Serenity will fly again”. I’m out in Utah and don’t really have the connections to rally all the browncoats, but maybe someone else in a better position that I... Aww I’m just throwing out ideas. Maybe though. I mean that’s what everyone else does when they want to get something done, or at the very least recognized. Just remember, my idea.

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Monday, January 30, 2006 1:44 PM

RKLENSETH

We could just take a network hostage and demand that they relight Firefly and then we'll let them go...

If that doesn't work then at least we would have some publicity. Remember any publicity is good publicity.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Monday, January 30, 2006 1:45 PM

RKLENSETH

And by the way, I'm not being serious.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Monday, January 30, 2006 2:00 PM

REDLAVA

Hey if it worked in the movie "Airheads" than it can work for us too!!!

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Monday, January 30, 2006 2:14 PM

DONCOAT

Hmmm... taking a whole network hostage... maybe we could find a way to jam the satellite feed.

"We will release your bandwidth unharmed as soon as you greenlight Firefly Season 2!"

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Monday, January 30, 2006 3:20 PM

FILTER

I agree. SciFi has resurrected Battlestar Gallactica and has the many spinoffs of Stargate. Why not purchase the greatest scifi show ever...FIREFLY? It makes perfect sense to me. My prediction is that SciFi will Comply in a couple of years. Mark my words. "Firefly will fly again!"

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Monday, January 30, 2006 3:56 PM

THENCDUCK

Yeah I agree even the re-runs for Firefly got pretty good ratings. This is where I first saw Firefly and became an instant fan.

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Monday, January 30, 2006 4:04 PM

OMELET

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Originally posted by rklenseth:
And by the way, I'm not being serious.

You're not? That sounded like a cool idea. We could storm the place by force, Jayne style.

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Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

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Monday, January 30, 2006 5:23 PM

PBI

You forget, Fox owns the TV right to Firefly and they ain't gonna part with them unless a lot of money changes hands, and that's what makes Firefly on another network a mostly-dead issue, because the outlay to purchase the rights, along with the production cost, when held up to the dismal ratings, is a turn-off.

Still, helps to hope.

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Monday, January 30, 2006 5:30 PM

AUNTYCHRIS

So let's hold Fox hostage until they release "Firefly" to somebody who will do it justice (more TV seasons, and maybe some more movies). I don't understand why Fox would want to hold on to the rights if they don't think it's worth making more shows. Someone please 'splain.

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Monday, January 30, 2006 6:02 PM

JOSSISAGOD

In my unqualified opinion Fox is holding onto Firefly's rights in the "If we can't have it (AKA. Don't want it), No one will.",fashion, but that's just my opinion, not based on facts.
edit: "There is always hope." Aragorn, Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers.

JOSSIS(Most Deffinantly)AGOD

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Monday, January 30, 2006 6:03 PM

LIGHT1984

I think everyone has failed to miss a pretty big point: Joss has several other projects going on at the moment from what Ive read. That would lead me to believe that we wont see anything till Wonder Woman and Goners (?) are finished. I do agree though, we will see firefly season 2. I was able to go to the FX show this past weekend and see Summer and Alan, and if you just kinda think about it, they are still doing publicity for a show that is what, 2-3 years old, yes the movie was only last summer... but I think more people know them from the show than the movie. Im kind of relieved though, I honestly get the feeling that we will see another season at the very least. "We just gotta keep on keeping on." - Joe Dirt

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Monday, January 30, 2006 6:07 PM

BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN

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Originally posted by auntychris:
So let's hold Fox hostage until they release "Firefly" to somebody who will do it justice (more TV seasons, and maybe some more movies). I don't understand why Fox would want to hold on to the rights if they don't think it's worth making more shows. Someone please 'splain.

How about they have already in the last year had to eat crow on cancelling:

Family Guy
Futurama

and see on the horizon, the mistake of getting rid of:

Arrested Development

and maybe

Firefly

and others.

Doesn't exactly set them on the path of enlightenment on which shows to keep and which shows to cancel, does it?

So, by continuing to make money on other shows and keeping our gem in the vault makes them look a lot more shiny to their stockholders.

Andrew

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Monday, January 30, 2006 6:33 PM

WOMANMEDIC

i love star gate and all ,but come on the show has really run a long time. it would make good business sense for sci-fi to pick up a show like firefly which has a large(bigger than one), deticated (yes) fan base and is a proven money maker. (sales of that first season rock).
firefly really fits the sci-fi name and would be better than some of the other crap they have been showing lately. we can only hope that some business exec stumbles across this website and sees how many people keep joining and posting daily. we need to keep networking and talking...eventually they will hear.

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Monday, January 30, 2006 7:10 PM

DC4BS

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auntychris wrote:
I don't understand why Fox would want to hold on to the rights if they don't think it's worth making more shows. Someone please 'splain.

Can you imagine being the guy who sold the rights to a show that became the highest rated show on another network? And blew YOUR network away to boot?

No network exec will ever take the remotest chance of that happening. They would FAR rather shove a show in a deep dark drawer and pretend it never existed.

This way, they cannot get blamed for producing it themselves and having it flop and they cannot get in trouble for "giving away the store" if it's a hit for someone else.

By licensing the rights, you can let someone else make the show and you are guaranteed money back if it's a hit and you get the licence fees even if it flops. No personal downside for an exec who does that is there? Win/Win.

I dunno if I'm right, but that makes sense to me anyway. It explaiuns why noone EVER gives up rights to anything without holding it for ransom for way more than it could ever hope to be worth.

Now, due to low initial ratings because of FOXs complete mishandling of the original show, noone other than FOX is willing to shell out to license it for further TV series. If it continues showing strong enough DVD boxset sales and if Serenity also does well over time, then other networks or even the new managers at FOX might reconsider it.

Because Firefly is currently in the special hell of "maybe", noone wants to make ANY decision on it that could come back and bite em on the butt. So therefor, NO decision is made.

Sounds a LOT like trying to get get anything usefull done by congress doesn't it?

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:27 PM

AUNTYCHRIS

Oh yea, that's right, Fox doesn't know it's ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to picking good shows. They always cancel the best and let the crap drone on forever. "Fox, home of below mediocre programming, and less!"

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:03 PM

BLUEHARVEST77

I just want to break in with this Link for the Sci Fi channel. If you have any suggestions for programing (specifically a second Firefly season) this is where you write. Don't just use the link, pass it on to any place you think we might get support. feedback@scifi.com

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:09 PM

DRPAIN

Quote:
Originally posted by Omelet:
Quote:
Originally posted by rklenseth:
And by the way, I'm not being serious.

You're not? That sounded like a cool idea. We could storm the place by force, Jayne style.

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Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

Cool! I'll bring Vera and after all the knee cap shattering and chain-of-command beatings we could juggle geese around a campfire, it'd be wacky fun.

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WWJD: What Would Jayne Do?

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