Mal/Zoe - am I alone here? by TaiShan

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Mal/Zoe - am I alone here?

POSTED BY: TAISHAN
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 1, 2006 04:14
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Monday, January 30, 2006 9:40 AM

Well, I guess you all have figured out that I'm a newbie, and are probably rolling your eyes at this thread already.

Hell, I wouldn't blame you one bit if you did. But I'm a big fan of Mal & Zoe as a couple, and seeing how I seem to be the only one, I was wondering if there were more fans of this 'ship out here who could lead me to some decent fics and such based on them? I tried searching myself but after wading through the endless rayne or simon/kaylee things on here I've been coming up nearly empty. So can someone help me out?

~TaiShan

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Monday, January 30, 2006 10:03 AM

ITSBROKEN

Mal and zoe?...couple?...zoe is married to wash..why would you want mal and zoe? they're like good friends...im so confused!

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***someone should make a MMORPG based on the 'verse!***

Geeze i want Firefly to come back!

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:25 AM

TAISHAN

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Originally posted by itsbroken:
Mal and zoe?...couple?...zoe is married to wash..why would you want mal and zoe? they're like good friends...im so confused!

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***someone should make a MMORPG based on the 'verse!***

Geeze i want Firefly to come back!

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Because they just fit together better than her and Wash ever could.....and ofcourse there's the BDM to consider.

"You're going to be cleaning latrines with your face if you don't cut that out." - Mal

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:49 AM

FEATHERONTHEWIND

While I don't share your enthusiasm for Mal/Zoe, I can understand your frustration with a lack of non-mainstream fics. I am a Mal/River and Mal/Kaylee shipper and I have a hard time finding fics as well. Sorry I wasn't any help, but I just wanted to let you know that I feel your pain, lol. Oh and I just like to say for my own peace of mind that Wash is still a great guy!

"Pain is scary." -Jayne
Mal=Hotness on an unknown level

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:59 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Lol, a very interesting and amusing idea.

I wouldn't have thought Zoe would fall for Mal - but then again I wouldn't have thought she'd fall for Wash either (or anyone for that matter)

I don't know enough about her character to be honest.

As for Mal, he obviously has a thing for Inara, and my understanding of his character is that he leans towards the 'soft and gentle' variety of womenfolk, as opposed to the kick-ass warrior woman sort (think Saffron as well, when she was still Saffron - so make that soft, gentle and articulate).

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:18 AM

ASARIAN

I'd say Mal and Zoe are, indeed, a likely couple. At least Wash thought so:

"No. What this marriage needs is one less husband."

But, realistically (other than in Wash' head), a real couple? Nah; they're war buddies. And Zoe trusts and relies on Mal, and especially his opinion, a great deal; like a husband... but without the romance.

"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:24 AM

TAISHAN

Yeah Wash is a great guy, and I do like him. But whenever I watch Firefly and there's some scene with Zoe and Mal running in with guns blazing, I just can't help thinking that the two of them are made for each other. And like mentioned, it is really frustrating to enjoy something so much and then seem to be on an endless search for it.

As for Mal and Inara, sure they like each other, but I can't really picture them ever getting together, at least not for long. For one thing they can't help arguing when ever they come near each other, also I think Mal would have too hard a time getting past the fact that she was a Companion for so long and that she seems to embody "high class" while he doesn't.

"You're going to be cleaning latrines with you face if you don't cut that out." - Mal

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:25 AM

LVS2READ

You might want to try at livejournal.com. I know I've read some Mal/Zoe fic, just can't remember where. If you search firefly or serenity as an interest there, you'll find lots of communities. Good luck!

"I love my captain."

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:29 AM

TAISHAN

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Originally posted by Lvs2read:
You might want to try at livejournal.com. I know I've read some Mal/Zoe fic, just can't remember where. If you search firefly or serenity as an interest there, you'll find lots of communities. Good luck!

"I love my captain."

Hmm, thanks for the idea! I've read a few here, but they were all from the same author, and there's about 5 on fanfiction.net. Hopefully a livejournal search will prove more fruitful.

"You're going to be cleaning latrines with you face if you don't cut that out." - Mal

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:31 AM

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION

As Wash said "most people don't get me & Zoe".

But I do.

A strong woman needs a man with a sense of humor...a soft place to land after a hard day of kicking ass and taking names.

Zoe and Mal would never work. They are too much a like.

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"Funny and sexy. You have no idea. And you never will."

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:55 AM

JAHZARA

Mal and Zoe.

Ironically, when the show first aired in 2002, I felt (and felt like many of the fans felt) that Mal and Zoe were once lovers, until it was spelled out in War Stories.

I was pleasantly suprised that I was wrong, not to hate on your shipping, but I was glad that one show on TV avoided THE BIG SEX.

Perhaps it is more of a possibility now that Wash...is...
Sorry, need a moment.

But I think (and this is just me) that Zoe needed that place of light that she and Wash had. She and Mal could happen eventually, though. I can see them comforting each other, if not on a long term basis.

They are in many ways more likely to ever happen than M/I, though I am a diehard shipper for them.

To each his own!

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:13 AM

ITSBROKEN

yeah, i think they have so many similarities and seems like they were made for eachother because of the fact. I think that they are very similar because they've known eachother for so long and are connected in a way that zoe trusts mal, but only as a friend.

I think that if Zoe were a guy then it would be easier to understand my point, but then wash would have to be a girl pilot, and then people would make fics about mal and wash, or wash and jayne, and then zoe and kaylee, and zoe and river...

and then it would be like using YOUR easy button to find MY easy button, the universe would tear and thats the worse that could happen. has anyone seen that commercial?

theres a reason i dont write stories or fanfics,

lol

EDIT: but i see your point on how they seem made for eachother.
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Geeze i want Firefly to come back!

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:32 AM

AGENTROUKA

Personally, I find that pairing abhorrent. :)

It seems to cheapen their relationship. Adding sex doesn't do anything to bring them closer than they already are, nor does it explore either character in a new way.

Plus, there's that "sir" and the superior/subordinate power dynamic that I can't see them ever shedding without losing something that makes their relationship work so well. I mean... how does THAT work in a romantic context??

"You have lovely eyes, Zoe."

"Thank you, sir."

"You're welcome. Now get the shuttles prepped."

It just seems incestuous and wrong to me. As if a man and a woman can't have a deeply meaningful friendship, can't go through hell together without needing to be attracted to each other sexually.

However, to each their own. :)

I believe Guildsister's series "Blue Sun Job" deals with Mal/Zoe.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/showprofile.asp?un=Guildsister

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:04 AM

TAISHAN

Yeah, I agree that Zoe needed Wash (or a Wash-like person), and truthfully I would not rewrite the story any other way. But just like Wash had suspicions about the two, especially considering their clinginess to each other, in the end I can see no other alternative than Mal and Zoe together. And its not just about sex as people seem to think. Its not unusual for best friends to fall in love, in fact I'm sure there are many people worldwide would agree with this. Often times people find they go through half there lives from one relationship to the next only to end up marrying the friend that has been by their side from the start. Why would it be so hard to believe that the same qualities that made a person your friend in the beginning is the same qualities that makes them your soulmate? No, I don't think that it cheapens anything just because it moved to another level. As for the whole sir/subordination thing...well, I think its done more to keep that barrier between, sort of since they are so close its their stopper from keeping them from getting any closer.

Wash couldn’t understand why Zoe would put Mal first before anything, even before him, and I can only wonder that should it come down to her making a final choice between the two who would she choose. I guess in light of recent events I’ll never know, but it has opened doors for my ‘ship to be in the foreground.

Oh, as for Guildsiters fic, I read it. Its a beautiful fic, but it deals more with Mal/Zoe pre-Firefly story.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:35 AM

JAYRO

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Originally posted by TaiShan:
Wash couldn’t understand why Zoe would put Mal first before anything, even before him, and I can only wonder that should it come down to her making a final choice between the two who would she choose. I guess in light of recent events I’ll never know, but it has opened doors for my ‘ship to be in the foreground.

Note, however, that when Zoe was given a such a choice - in 'War Stories' - she picked Wash before Niska could even finish his sentence.

Her loyalty lies with Mal, her captain, who she would follow to the end of the 'verse, and she knew that he would be able to stand up to Niska's torture... but her love

was and will always be with Wash, her husband, and she knew that he would not.

Need a moment... *wipes away sentimental tear*

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"I'm sorry. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Would you like to finish?"

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:54 AM

AGENTROUKA

Quote:
Originally posted by TaiShan:
Yeah, I agree that Zoe needed Wash (or a Wash-like person), and truthfully I would not rewrite the story any other way. But just like Wash had suspicions about the two, especially considering their clinginess to each other, in the end I can see no other alternative than Mal and Zoe together. And its not just about sex as people seem to think. Its not unusual for best friends to fall in love, in fact I'm sure there are many people worldwide would agree with this. Often times people find they go through half there lives from one relationship to the next only to end up marrying the friend that has been by their side from the start. Why would it be so hard to believe that the same qualities that made a person your friend in the beginning is the same qualities that makes them your soulmate? No, I don't think that it cheapens anything just because it moved to another level. As for the whole sir/subordination thing...well, I think its done more to keep that barrier between, sort of since they are so close its their stopper from keeping them from getting any closer.

Wash couldn’t understand why Zoe would put Mal first before anything, even before him, and I can only wonder that should it come down to her making a final choice between the two who would she choose. I guess in light of recent events I’ll never know, but it has opened doors for my ‘ship to be in the foreground.

Oh, as for Guildsiters fic, I read it. Its a beautiful fic, but it deals more with Mal/Zoe pre-Firefly story.

But what do you make of the power discrepancy in their relationship? The very strict and adhered to superior/subordinate line between them?

In spite of their friendship, Mal never does tolerate very well when Zoe crosses that line. In the pilot episode and still in the movie.. when Zoe questions him, Mal gets downright aggressive, and not in a playful way. How do you erase that in a romantic context?

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:18 AM

THEPISTONENGINE

Romance is probably the worst killer of a good series, at least second to Fox. It has to be done RIGHT, or not at all. I like the Zoe/Wash romance, because overall it was subtle, they didn't moon eye each other to death, and when it was the main focus of the scene, it created humor and/or tension. If there is too much "ahhh, they're so cute together..." it gets old.

Any fans of Babylon 5 here? The series was good, but I couldn't stand the fifteen minutes of extra googling eyes between Sheriden and Delenn. It was cute for the first two episodes, and then it dominated the last three seasons.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:26 AM

LOCRAY

thing is, Zoe and Mal are officer and soldier. I don't think anything will ever change that bond. Plus, Mal got his hands full with Inara

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:59 AM

TRINCULO

Hello, Taishan - Try this:

http://firefly.populli.org/archive/2/crossingbarriers.shtml

One of the few Mal/Zoe fics I've found, and the premise is actually plausible. Be forewarned - it's pretty explicit (Definite R or NC-17 rating applies).

I'm a newbie, too, by the way. :)

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:00 AM

TAISHAN

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:

But what do you make of the power discrepancy in their relationship? The very strict and adhered to superior/subordinate line between them?

In spite of their friendship, Mal never does tolerate very well when Zoe crosses that line. In the pilot episode and still in the movie.. when Zoe questions him, Mal gets downright aggressive, and not in a playful way. How do you erase that in a romantic context?

The power discrepancy? Like I said before, I see it like a barrier to keep them from getting any closer. Sort of like a line in the sand, keeping their relationship at a certain level, especially sinc ehe is her boss. As for Mal getting aggressive when she questions a command, is because that is work and that should be kept seperate from personal matters (I hope that made sense to you, it did in my head but I'm not sure if I'm explaining it right).

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:15 AM

FATHOUNDDAWG

I disagree.

I think that Mal and Zoe are excellent partners. They have the history together and they trust each other and certainly do love each other, but it isn't the kind of love that will or should turn romantic.

I'd be really disappointed in Joss/Serenity/FF if they ever got together.

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Jayne: "Butcher knife!"
Zoe: "Anyone we can't spare."

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:21 AM

AGENTROUKA

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Originally posted by TaiShan:

The power discrepancy? Like I said before, I see it like a barrier to keep them from getting any closer. Sort of like a line in the sand, keeping their relationship at a certain level, especially sinc ehe is her boss. As for Mal getting aggressive when she questions a command, is because that is work and that should be kept seperate from personal matters (I hope that made sense to you, it did in my head but I'm not sure if I'm explaining it right).

But how could they ever keep work and play separate on Serenity? She's his second in command 24/7, how would they drop it?

The way I see it, if they drop the power inequality in their relationship, then Mal loses his professional right hand. And that means a lot in terms of keeping him anchored to the world. What would he get to replace that absolute, unquestioning (by default of her subordinate position) loyalty?

They're not best friends in a traditional sense. It's like superhero and sidekick. One orders, the other obeys, close as they may be. They're not equals. We never see them talking to each other about anything personal, sharing, carrying each other emotionally.

It's all in the things they lived through together, the things they both understand through personal experience, and in their excellent working relationship.

Really, the more I think about it, the less applicable "best friends" becomes. They share a deep bond, but it's not a very personal one, beyond that forced intimacy of shared devastation?

Both of them emerged from the war, yet only Zoe returned to normality, due to Wash. Now Zoe is broken again, and Mal isn't particularly healed, either... just where would they lead each other if not a circle of painful memories? What do they give each other to grow with, personally?

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:57 AM

TALLGRRL

No, you're not alone.
I think that at one time Mal and Zoe probably had a fling. Sometime during the War. Something happened and they broke it off because they couldn't be a "couple" and fight. (Sort of like married soldiers/cops being in the same group.)
I mean, look at her! She's not only an awesome soldier, she's Drop.Dead.Gorgeous.
If I was leanin' that way, I'd have a big old GirlCrush on some Zoe/Gina Torres.
And Mal ain't blind. (Hell, neither is Zoe. Those are two fine lookin' people.)
Now. Since then, they've become Comrades.
I'm thinking the reason she continues to call him "Sir" is out of deference to the fact that she was the only one of their platoon to make it out alive...and to keep that distance between them.
Nothing wrong with thinking that they'd have some Chemistry.
She'd jump in front of a bullet for Mal. But she's definitely married to, and deeply in love with Wash.
*sniff*
That's my opinion...and I'm stickin' with it.

"Take me, sir. Take me hard." -- Zoe

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:59 AM

DRAGONFEAR987

i dun really see mal being with anyone, crew or an outsider. sure there are ppl we can easily see him with, and those wed like to see him with, but when it comes down to it, i just dont see mal as the kinda guy who would really want to have a wife. hes a mystery to ppl, he likes to be a mystery to ppl, and in having a wife hell lose his mystery as he gets close to whoever hed marry. notice how he stopped himself when he started opening up to saffron. neway, overall i think mals got a soft spot for soft gentle women, but hes more content being single. and i dun mean to put down opinions, but i really dont think he ever had a fling with zoe at all.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:05 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

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We never see them talking to each other about anything personal, sharing, carrying each other emotionally.

*********SPOILERS*********

That's a good point - intelligent thing to highlight. There's a good scene in the movie where Mal makes a subtle enquiry into Zoe's emotional state:

Mal - "You think she'll hold together?"
Zoe - "She's tore up plenty, but she'll fly true."

I guess one of the things that makes this scene so touching is that the two are burying their emotions behind their professionalism. It would seem wrong if Mal was there for Zoe in a 'shoulder to cry on' capacity.

Though it's tough for Zoe isn't it? Not sure she can get that shoulder from anywhere else now that Wash is gone... Most people would be too intimidated to offer consolance - I entertain the notion that Wash was kind of the first person to see past the warrior woman to the person underneath, and spoke to her addressing the person underneath, and thus got past her defences and this was what made him 'bother' her when they first met

I've got off the point haven't I? But yeah, a friendly professional relationship is my verdict.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:55 PM

GARBAGECANMUSIC

Yes you are. Desperately alone....there is...wait..

*rereads entire thread*

Ok....you're not desperately alone on this concept:)

But allow me to say....

NO! NO!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO!!!

And for the person who has Mal/River thoughts....have you LOST your FRICKIN' mind?!? No, no, NO!!

What is it fan fics and sex?!? Put a show on the air and all of a sudden EVERYONE has to be doinking?? There's no such thing as professional relationships? Friendships? Crimeny....I'm now afraid to go fan fic searching and finding:
"Serenity Baccanal-Ogry VII: The Revenge"

Crimeny.

Oh...um....if anyone happens to come across the above titles fan fic.....could you send it to my attention please?

How much is that little Geisha in the window?

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:58 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

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Originally posted by dragonfear987:
i dun really see mal being with anyone, crew or an outsider. sure there are ppl we can easily see him with, and those wed like to see him with, but when it comes down to it, i just dont see mal as the kinda guy who would really want to have a wife. hes a mystery to ppl, he likes to be a mystery to ppl, and in having a wife hell lose his mystery as he gets close to whoever hed marry. notice how he stopped himself when he started opening up to saffron. neway, overall i think mals got a soft spot for soft gentle women, but hes more content being single. and i dun mean to put down opinions, but i really dont think he ever had a fling with zoe at all.

I'll back you in that I can't see him ever having had a fling with Zoe.

But I don't like the idea that he cherishes his own 'mystery' image or that he's afraid of being 'sussed out'. Perhaps he has resigned himself to a single life, but I don't believe this is his wish.

He's not used to letting people in, especially not since the war and the scars he has in there. But I don't think he is now indisposed to relationships, he just requires a special woman.

Anyway, that's my view. Lol, don't mean to put down your view, it's just Mal's my favourite character and I have my own view of him which I guard very jealously (Grr Jane Espenson)

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:17 PM

SHINYTALENT

Sorry but I can't see it. I mean Mal and Zoe have a special bond sure- but it's not physical. I think if they were together in any other way they would be a liability to each other.

Also Mal needs someone to protect, can you see Zoe being protected? I sure can't.

But don't worry- where there is the possibility for a 'ship there will fic written about it, maybe you could try writing some- make those of us who are doubting Thomas's see what you mean.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:23 PM

ETHAN

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Quote:
Originally posted by dragonfear987:
i dun really see mal being with anyone, crew or an outsider. sure there are ppl we can easily see him with, and those wed like to see him with, but when it comes down to it, i just dont see mal as the kinda guy who would really want to have a wife. hes a mystery to ppl, he likes to be a mystery to ppl, and in having a wife hell lose his mystery as he gets close to whoever hed marry. notice how he stopped himself when he started opening up to saffron. neway, overall i think mals got a soft spot for soft gentle women, but hes more content being single. and i dun mean to put down opinions, but i really dont think he ever had a fling with zoe at all.

I'll back you in that I can't see him ever having had a fling with Zoe.

But I don't like the idea that he cherishes his own 'mystery' image or that he's afraid of being 'sussed out'. Perhaps he has resigned himself to a single life, but I don't believe this is his wish.

He's not used to letting people in, especially not since the war and the scars he has in there. But I don't think he is now indisposed to relationships, he just requires a special woman.

Anyway, that's my view. Lol, don't mean to put down your view, it's just Mal's my favourite character and I have my own view of him which I guard very jealously (Grr Jane Espenson)

I also agree that Mal perhaps isn't suited for a traditional relationship. That said however, I think Mal's attitude towards Zoe is the closest thing he can have when it comes to a long term relationship. If Mal ever had to commit to a particular someone, it would be based on loyalty and a mutual (if somewhat cold) understanding. That's why I think an intimate relationship with Zoe isn't out of the realm of possibility. If the right reason should arise, I could see Mal marrying Zoe out of a sense of responsibilty and friendship.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:31 PM

SAMEERTIA

I can see Mal & Zoe, but I'm a not huge fan of it.

I wrote a fic about WHY Mal & Zoe aren't - and why Wash is. :D
It's here - Warning; it's gritty.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=5997

And I recently read a very lovely "Mal comforts Zoe" post BDM on here, but I can't remember who the author was! I'm so sorry.

Does anybody remember? Will the author step forward, please?

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:09 PM

NOSADSEVEN

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Originally posted by SameErtia:
And I recently read a very lovely "Mal comforts Zoe" post BDM on here, but I can't remember who the author was! I'm so sorry.

Does anybody remember? Will the author step forward, please?

I think I read this one too, not too long ago, but I have no idea about title or author, either.

As for Mal and Zoe... I suppose anything is possible, but, personally, I don't think a romantic relationship between the two would be nearly as interesting as the relationship we currently see.

The way Mal and Zoe seem to need each other, and how that affects the other people in their lives...I just find that to be compelling.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:07 PM

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I'm not 100% sure why (Cpl?) Zoe calls Sgt Mal "Sir", unless now that he owns his own truck/boat/spaceship, this is a self-promotion to the officer corps? These was no rule against fraternization among enlisted troops, but Mal and Zoe perhaps felt more like brother and sister, wading through muddy foxholes and such.

Select to view spoiler:

Perhaps Zoe will find comfort in a sexbot, er, Washbot? Joss is partial to sexbots, ya know, especially for resurrections. Or just have him cloned from an old toenail clipping?

But then again, perhaps Mal and Zoe could rekindle that old "I always wanted to sleep with you but never got around to it" thing, as Wash suspected. Tonight on some TV show, it had 2 70-year-olds telling their true-life story of 65 years of foreplay. So Mal & Zoe just might get around to it someday, in a time and verse far far away.

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Wednesday, February 1, 2006 4:14 AM

TAISHAN

Quote:
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
But how could they ever keep work and play separate on Serenity? She's his second in command 24/7, how would they drop it?

The way I see it, if they drop the power inequality in their relationship, then Mal loses his professional right hand. And that means a lot in terms of keeping him anchored to the world. What would he get to replace that absolute, unquestioning (by default of her subordinate position) loyalty?

I guess one of the reasons I mainly disagree on this is because I've known couples who were able to work together in one capacity or other and still manage to keep their personal life seperate. Just because one may be the boss doesn't mean it will take away from the underlying personal connection they have. Seperating work and play? Well its like how Zoe and Wash are. When they're doing a job, they're focused on that job, and then play afterwards. Similar with Zoe and Mal, notice they joke around with each other often.

You mentioned how you don't see the two talking about any personal matters, but then Mal doesn't really share anything with anyone. I can only assume that with him and Zoe being friends for so long she probably knows it all anyway. As for them not carrying each other emotionally, again I don't see that as a hindrance. My best friend and I are closer than sisters ever could be and yet out of all the years we've known each other (nearly half my life) she's never seen me cry once or vice versa. Doesn't mean we don't understand when the other is sad or hurting.

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Originally posted by SHINYTALENT:
Sorry but I can't see it. I mean Mal and Zoe have a special bond sure- but it's not physical. I think if they were together in any other way they would be a liability to each other.

They are already a liability to each other. One can't do without the other.Mal always has her by his side.

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