Mailing Addresses for the Faithful by BrownCoatRecruiter

Also link to this website which has several more
addresses.
http://www.browncoatsriseagain.com/

BTW I didn't find any addresses myself, just found
where other people had already posted them.

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:02 AM

I'm just wondering how many folks have managed to send out letters so far? Does anyone have any thoughts on the frequency for letter mailing? How often and how many is appropriate for one person? One a week? I really hope we get some response out of this!

"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 2:16 PM

DONCOAT

Here's my letter to Dawn Ostroff (please note the correct spelling -- it's not Ostraff as in the address above).

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February 18, 2006

Dawn Ostroff
UPN
11800 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, California 90025

Dear Ms. Ostroff,

Congratulations on your new position as President of Entertainment of the soon-to-be formed CW network. I hope you meet with immediate and ongoing success. I’d like to offer a suggestion that I think could help ensure that success.

No doubt you’re getting many unsolicited proposals and suggestions for programming for the new network. This is one such suggestion. No, I don’t have a show to pitch. In fact, my suggestion concerns a property that has a proven track record, a large and growing – not to say obsessive – fan base, and impeccable critical credentials.

As you may have guessed, I’m referring to Joss Whedon’s incredible series Firefly, which rose from the ashes of an untimely and premature cancellation at the hands of Fox to a triumphant feature-film incarnation last year, Serenity.

Firefly has unusually broad appeal. It has plenty of viewers in the critical 18-49 male demographic, but I’ve never known a science fiction vehicle that has so many female fans. Much of this has to do with the series’ sharp and witty writing and very attractive and talented cast. These factors make it stand up to repeated viewings, guaranteeing its potential for DVD sales and ongoing revenue.

A new network could do far worse than to anchor a weeknight lineup with Firefly. As a longtime fan, I would gladly support the sponsors of a revived series, and I can assure you that there are thousands of others like me who would do the same. How many shows these days can get a “no channel surfing” pledge from their viewers?

Thank you for listening to my suggestion. I look forward to seeing the good ship Serenity flying again on what would instantly become my new favorite network, CW.

Sincerely,
(me)

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No idea if it will do a lick of good, but at least it makes me feel like I'm doing my bit.

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I don't disagree on any particular point.

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 2:48 PM

Thanks for the correction. Does anyone have any opinions about handwritten v. typed letters? I hand wrote my first two letters but to do mailings often and widely it sure would be a lot easier to type and sign my name at the bottom.

"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 3:36 PM

HIXIE129

I hand wrote 6 one page letters, it took 500 sheets of paper! haven't written a hand written letter in 20 years.

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 4:25 PM

LAUGHINGMUSE

Handwriting definitely holds more weight than typewritten, photocopied, or emailed. Sheer volume is relatively easy to achieve; and studio execs are probably getting a bit innured to email- and fax-barrages.

If you want them to actually read the letter and get the point, keep it short, keep it simple,...heck, if there were a way to put flip charts and an easel in there, I'd say do that. We're trying to communicate with these people - which means "short, straightforward, to the point." My own recommendation is one page, single-sided but full length.

Mankind makes tools; we use them to augment our hands, arms and legs.
The computer augments the brain and this makes it very unpopular with totalitarians. - Charles J.C. Lyall

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 4:53 PM

Everyone is so great! I've been writing, trying to be consistent and now I have more to do, what with the opportunity at CW (hopefully!) I am thinking every week, or every two weeks will do. I think if they get just barraged with handwritten letters they will certainly take notice.

The trick is to come up with something new to say, persuasive but not too fangirly ( in my case). Your letter is excellent, DonCoat. Thanks, LaughingMuse for the suggestion on how to do it.
I think I'm going to have to shorten mine. I go on a bit I think.

I think we should try to keep this thread on the front page, where everyone can see it.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:34 PM

That's a great idea, FollowMal! Do you know how we get it kept on the front page? I'll ask whoever we need to.

"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:41 PM

I don't know BrownCoatRecruiter..

unless Haken notices our thread and looks in on it and tells us how, the only way I know is to keep posting to it and to bump. But too much bumping is impolite... so I guess we keep talking, lol.

One of us could message him I suppose and ask how to make it stay. It's his site ( thank you, thank you Haken, you are so sweet to share this home with us!) so we will just have to see what he says. Maybe he already has something like that and we've missed it, I dunno.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:25 PM

BELOWZERO

Nicely done, I too will write and so will my 8 year old (I figure that will tug some heartstrings and he is a total Browncoat anyway, plus he gets to practice his writing and spelling). I'll handwrite. I have decent handwriting. if yours is illegible I suggest you type or at least be legible on the parts about Firefly and bringing it back.

We don't have anything to lose with an outpouring of support here people, so do it.

"Do not go gentle into that good night....
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. . ."
--Dylan Thomas

Though my soul may set in darkness
It will rise in perfect light.
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night.

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Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:57 AM

Hey, look we're talkin' about this again!

Today is my day to sit down and write somemore letters out so they go in the post tomorrow. I plan on doing this every week, or two weeks.

Good idea, BelowZero! Tugged heartstrings are good and practise at writing is good.

Hope there will be lots of Browncoats join us!!

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Sunday, February 19, 2006 6:25 AM

KAELE

So it's letter-writing weekends, is it?

K. Didn't get to it yesterday, doing it NOW.

Anyone got a reliable source to write to the Master himself? Joss?

You'd think he'd be a good one to write for, as he'd be able to walk in somewhere with a ton of letters saying, "Here you go! They love it! Now let me make more!"

Kaele
AIM - Dewlanna
YID - jedi_kaele

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Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kaele:

Anyone got a reliable source to write to the Master himself? Joss?

This is from http://www.browncoatsriseagain.com

Creative Artists Agency
(Joss Whedon's Agent)

ATTN: Lee Gabler
Creative Artists Agency
9830 Wilshire Blvd.
Beverly Hills, CA 90212-1825

I got an email back from Andrew at BrownCoatsRiseAgain, very nice. Sounds like they're not putting any ads in papers or on
billboards just now. Wanting more solid and
impressive DVD sales figures.

In lieu of buying out amazon.com, which would
put me in bankruptcy, I'm writing letters to the
studios. Handwritten is, for me, the only way to go. I keep it to one page and repeat the word
Firefly at least 3 times. For good luck.

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Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:53 PM

Does anyone think it might help to start writing letters to networks other than CW and SciFi? Would it do any good to start petitioning all the major networks, and even the not-so-major networks, in the hope that one of them will eventually wise up?

"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal

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Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:35 PM

DAVESHAYNE

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoatRecruiter:
Does anyone think it might help to start writing letters to networks other than CW and SciFi? Would it do any good to start petitioning all the major networks, and even the not-so-major networks, in the hope that one of them will eventually wise up?

Couldn't hurt. So who do we need addresses for CBS, NBC, ABC, HBO, Showtime? Who else is doing original programming?

David

"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon

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Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoatRecruiter:
Does anyone think it might help to start writing letters to networks other than CW and SciFi?

I'm writing to all of them I can find addresses for.

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Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:19 PM

We are including Universal in this aren't we? I mean, we want to cover all the bases. I want a show, way more than I want a movie, but if a movie is an option then I want to make sure I've written them too.

Have you guys included Universal in your letters?

I been gone most of the day doing RL stuff, gorramnit it's good to be home.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Monday, February 20, 2006 2:43 AM

DISKA

yeh we should be definitly be including universal.
does anyone know the address?

"Dear diary: Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy. Today we were kidnapped by hill folk, never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."

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Monday, February 20, 2006 8:01 AM

AUGLAISE

I think this is a great idea! And hopefully, when they get letters from us 'uns overseas as well, they'll pay attention.

I was thinking though...should we all try to include a certain phrase in our letters? Something like that might help show that this is an organised thing by a large group of people, who are very committed to getting the show back. Maybe it would make it more than just random people writing in. What do people think?

"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety."

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Monday, February 20, 2006 9:04 AM

DAVESHAYNE

So a quick stroll through the internet gets these addies,

CBS Television Network
51 West 52nd Street
New York, NY 10019

ABC, Inc.
500 S. Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521-4551

No contact names are given I'd go with Attn: Programming but if somebody has more specific information....

I couldn't find addresses for HBO, Showtime or NBC but after perusing NBCs faq I now know where to find answeres to those vexing Will & Grace wardrobe questions.

David

"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon

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Monday, February 20, 2006 9:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Auglaise:
I think this is a great idea! And hopefully, when they get letters from us 'uns overseas as well, they'll pay attention.

I was thinking though...should we all try to include a certain phrase in our letters? Something like that might help show that this is an organised thing by a large group of people, who are very committed to getting the show back. Maybe it would make it more than just random people writing in. What do people think?

"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety."

I think that's a great idea Auglaise! It would show a definate sense of solidarity among the fanbase. So what should it be? Something catchy but not cheesy. Something eminently quotable.

Thanks a lot for posting those address extra addresses David. I think I can safely say we all appreciate it. I'll keep looking for NBC and HBO and the like. Hopefully someone else out there has got some hook-ups. You know what we could really use is some insider support. Are there any 'Coats out there with connections?

"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal

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Monday, February 20, 2006 9:27 PM

I love you guys! Look, more addresses!

The idea about a phrase... good one. Someone come up with it and I'll be includin' it.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:17 PM

How about: Dear so-and-so, bring back our show or else very bad things will happen to you. Things involving butter and hamsters. Or maybe butter and turtles.

But seriously, what about "Re-light Firefly"? Or should it be something more specific or wordy?

Help!

"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal

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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:37 PM

BROWNCOATBILLY

I just dropped my letters off this afternoon. I sent one to everyone I could find an address for: Fox both TV and Production company, UPN, CW, WB, USA, SciFi, and Joss' agent. I plan on writing one a week, though they will have to be typed and hand signed. I hand addressed the envelopes and nearly put my wrist into a brace.

As for the catch phrase I like the idea one that always stuck with me was: "2002, they told us it was over. 2005, we told them it was just begining. Re-light the Firefly."

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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BrowncoatBilly:
...Re-light the Firefly."

In my mind all along I've been thinking like, "We
believe! Firefly will return." It's my mantra.
But I like "Re-light Firefly" too.

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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:17 PM

PEULSAR5

We sniff the air, we don't kiss the dirt.

The letter I sent was typed, but if handwritten is better I'll definately do that.

To play off Billy's "2002: they told us it was over..."

2002: They took the sky from us. 2005: We're taking it back!

But I LOVE "Re-light Firefly".

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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:34 PM

Didn't get my letters mailed but they are written ( my hubby had surgery and had to be cared for a little, pre-empted a trip to town to mailbox) and will be mailed tomorrow ( wait, that's today now!).

I vote for "Relight Firefly!". I like it!

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FollowMal:
"Relight Firefly!".

I used that in one of the letters I wrote today
and it sounds nice.

"Irresistible" is hard to spell - doesn't have an
A in it. In case anyone else is planning to say
that word too.

Here's the mailing address for NBC.

Attn: Programming Director
NBC Television Network
3000 W. Alameda Avenue
Burbank, CA 91523

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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:14 PM

Thanks OldFogey,for the addy and the advice. It's been a long time since I wrote without spell check and wrote in long hand... had to be careful and write well.

More letters this Sunday... and "Relight Firefly" it is for me.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:24 PM

Does anyone have a mailing address for HBO?

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:39 PM

Wow, I've got nothing on the HBO address so far. I'll keep trying though. How is everyone getting on with the letter writing? Does anyone have any thoughts regarding the SciFi network? It seems that they would be the most logical choice for a new home for FF but surely fans have made appeals to them already, right? Or hasn't anybody tried for SciFi yet?

"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:17 PM

ANTHIAR

Sci-fi channel is likely the best bet, as they love producing stuff that is nowhere else; and they seem to have a pretty good track record at finding what people like. (As a number of their shows have been around for many seasons.)

I'm bored, so I'll look to dig up something. Stand by for more info on that.

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:23 PM

ANTHIAR

Gorramnit..

From the Sci-fi channels FAQ page....

I have a great idea for a show. How do I submit ideas?
SCI FI does not accept unsolicited material. We only accept submissions/pitches from distributors, producers, agents, talent with representation, etc. This is to protect both the Channel and the individual with the idea.

So I guess letters from us to Sci-fi are a no-go.... Unless we can covince a distrobutor/producer/agent ect to do it for us.

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Friday, February 24, 2006 5:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Anthiar:

SCI FI does not accept unsolicited material... to protect both the Channel and the individual with the idea.

I took that to mean they din't want people sending in ideas for new, original shows that haven't been done yet. They don't want to be sued every time they make a new show, by someone who says they emailed that idea to them 10 years ago.

Sci-Fi Channel got a letter from me just saying how much I appreciate their recent airing of the first season of Firefly, asking them to do it again, reminding them the Firefly fan base is still growing, suggesting (politely) I'd be their slave forever if they pick up a new season. You know, stuff like that. I think they like that.

Browncoats, some of us anyways, ain't above brown-nosing when it's called for.

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Friday, February 24, 2006 10:16 AM

MILFORD

I'm starting my letter writing campaign next week. I'm just curious though, has anyone here ever received a reply from an email or snail mail on this? I've written lots of things but no one has ever seemed to notice. Anyone else had better luck. Hopefully something like: "We're getting right on that. Forigive our transgression of ignoring the show this long." But if not, a simple "Hey, we got your letter" thing would be nice to hear.

Remember, that but for one trifling exception, the entire universe is made up of others.- Oliver Wendall Holmes

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Friday, February 24, 2006 4:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by milford:
I'm just curious though, has anyone here ever received a reply from an email or snail mail on this?

I haven't gotten a direct reply, but hey, some of the original fans wrote letters and stuff and got us a big damn movie. So I s'pose someone out there really is getting our letters and reading them, even if they don't write back.

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Saturday, February 25, 2006 4:06 AM

AUGLAISE

I think that Re-light Firefly is brill! Seriously though, it's catchy, interesting enough that it sticks in the mind, and it's short and to the point. I'll be adding it to all my letters from now on. Fantastic idea BrownCoatRecruiter!

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Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:50 PM

LISHARN

I will try and get a couple letters out this week. I am a newbie but hooked. Handwritten will be difficult but worth it.

Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly
coming to a middle.

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Monday, February 27, 2006 2:27 AM

DISKA

does anyone have an address for universal for the letter writing campaign?

"Dear diary: Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy. Today we were kidnapped by hill folk, never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."

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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 4:46 AM

Hey troops! How goes the great letter-writing campaign everyone? I know it's a slim chance but has anyone gotten any responses at all? Any news to report? I myself have heard nuthin' so far but it's early yet.

BTW, I just read my "BrownCoats Rise Again" newsletter and wouldn't ya' know it, but they use the "re-light Firefly" slogan too. So we got that goin' for us...which is nice. (not SereniFly, but classic hilarity nonetheless for those of you familiar with this quote

)

"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal

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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:00 AM

ISAACSHEPHERD

Anyone have any advice in how to start these letters? I'm having a problem starting it. Do we have any specific tactic or are we just saying how many there are and we would like original programming that seems to lack these days?
In the mean time i'm just going to try to come up with something. Help would be appreciated.
IS

The Bible's a bit fuzzy on the subject of kneecaps.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 6:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by IsaacShepherd:
Anyone have any advice in how to start these letters?

I started out by saying I'm a new fan of the original series and would love to see it come back. Figure this lets them know there's still new fans coming on board. If they read it. Bad news is my letter to Sci-Fi Channel got returned as "undeliverable as addressed". So maybe they really don't accept any unsolicited mail from fans. Bummer. Hm. I'm in the mood for some postcards...

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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 6:40 AM

I was gonna message you, OldFogey, because I knew you would have good advice for all of us on how to generally word our letters.

Maybe we'd better stick to bombarding the SciFi Channel with emails re: programming. They seem to accept those and even mention them some in their SciFi News and such.

Kaele and I were talking last night about postcards being the way to go. Short and sweet and to the point and we can mail many. Or mix them up, mail letters somedays... postcards another. I kinda figure they aren't gonna want to open all the letters, so the postcards will have more punch.

Did I miss the Universal address? I've been so busy in RL and on here that I can't remember where we posted that....

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 2:10 AM

DOFFE

Hi,

Re-light Firefly - is a great slogan, going to use it.

Question here, should we include a link to the site ( http://www.fireflyfans.net)? The community is well organazed and is not fanatically blind. We have common sense. Could be a plus. What do You think?

Keep flying.
Doffe.

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 4:10 AM

Doffe, I am going to include a link to fff.net from now on. I didn't in the first letters I sent because I didn't think about it, but I WILL now.

And yea, I like Re-light Firefly too.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 5:55 AM

Hey folks! I don't have any news to report at the moment, just trying to keep the thread current. Cheers!

"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal

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Monday, March 6, 2006 7:38 AM