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Sadly, I know I'm a lot more vulnerable than I think I am, if that makes sense.

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But in a way, what I believe about myself defines my reality

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See, I truly see myself as not lonely. So long as I know I'm not lonely, I'll just not be.

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Until, of course, it slaps me across the face and says, "Pay attention, dammit!" As it does every now and then

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*scowl* You're a real prince. Or another "pri" word with considerably fewer letters.

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*innocent grin* Who...me? I was, of course, just putting myself in the middle of your little scale -- not too hot, but not too not, if you get my drift.

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See, I'm usually the one who is chastised for "forgetting" to call, for missing a date, for not remembering birthdays/anniversaries. My ex can still remember when we first kissed, for God's sake. I can't even remember the exact day I left him.

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Except for that last bit, you're spot-on. You might even be right about the last, though I'm usually far more comfortable around men than I ever am around women.... But if you mean afraid of a real relationship with a man, then you're by-God right on the money.

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I don't disagree on any particular point. Which sucks.

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Heh, I like that I have you all avoiding stuff, though. Makes us even, don't you think?

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Oh how I would enjoy taming you.

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Originally posted by fathounddawg:
Well, shucks, it looks like I arrived late and everybody's gone home.

But just in case anybody's still listening...

I'm a 20-year-old SWF (21 on March 2nd!), going to school in Pittsburgh, PA, but originally from central New Jersey. Aside from FF, I love photography and the written word. I think I'm an easy-going, low maintenance chick - maybe a Kaylee/Zoe, with a bit of River's goofiness thrown into the mix.

Guy-wise, I adore Washies - goofy and smart and sweet and not all hard and muscley. I look for someone who can be a good friend first, and a good boyfriend second. I also love committment (OK, anyone reading just tuned out right there), so one-night-stands don't interest me at all.

Just got out of four years' worth of CRAZY, and I'm not looking to dive into anything, but it's never a bad thing to just have a friend.

Anybody who feels like chatting...hit me up!
Yahoo: honeyloupe
AIM/AOL: SemprUbiSubUbi

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Jayne: "Butcher knife!"
Zoe: "Anyone we can't spare."

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Oh how I would enjoy taming you.

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Hmm... why would you want to "tame" her?!? In my opinion.. most women (scratch that.. just about ALL women) need a heavy dose of the oposite. They need to learn to discover.. get in touch with.. and set free their inner slut... not be "tamed". But I know what you mean by "tamed".. .. I am just playing with the word..

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I would caution against using that question to determine another person's psychology.

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I don't have a personality like either

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I couldn't let this thread die without taking the chance to work out aspects of your psyche to the finest detail

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This is the really sad thing... all you guys out there that think the whole "lesbian" thing is hot (I don't get it)..

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Originally posted by Redag:
Late to the party, but never too late to try...

Twenty-nine year old male, center-left politics, a good reader and excellent taste in my choice of media entertainment. Seeking Firefly-aware lass for various fun expeditions, particularly thai food expeditions.

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No, I don't think you do know what I mean.

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What's to get? It's addition. One woman = good. Two women = twice as good.

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No kidding. My birthday is the same day, though, a few years earlier. Always fun to see someone with the same birthday. I even used to live in PA. I miss it sometimes. The snow on the mountains, the green trees.....

PS I am smart and sweet and like committment.

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Hard-a$$ed, no-maintenance, determinedly-single WF in Middle US seeks equally-determinedly-single, no-maintenance Jayne-type male. Must be willing to let me clean his guns and lick/sharpen his buck knife. Must refuse any lasting commitment outside the sack. Must not have a problem with heartless, snarky females who mind their own business when not doing business.

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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
The Bodhisattva Nagarjuna said that there are only four good types of females: Obedient sisters, loving companions, good mothers and submissive maidservants.

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Would be that you would get a might Philosophical about the opposite sex?

Men hate to admit it but sometimes just like us chicks you get to philosophifize (SP) about us chicks? I mean women not chickens!

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Originally posted by fathounddawg:
No way! Well, happy almost birthday, then!

You, me, Dr. Seuss and apparently Big Ben Rothelisberger. We're in good company.

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Happy birthday to you too.

Big Ben, eh? Living in Pittsburgh, have you had one of those gi-normous sandwiches, the Roethlisberger? I heard about it on TV and it looks absolutely outrageous.

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Thanks!

I haven't had that one, but there is a bar called Fat Head's that's famous for their excessive sandwiches and I did once try to eat one of those. :) It was featured in Maxim, I think. (The sandwich, not me eating it.)

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Sadly, I know I'm a lot more vulnerable than I think I am, if that makes sense.

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Yes it does, and it explains a lot. Or, I should say, it shows how smart you are through the bravado.
You're smart all...a girl! I keep expecting to see evil spock with a goatte whipped on.

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You can just about defy reality with a brave enough front. A slightly related concept I call the Road Runner Thesis: hurtling forward you can do amazing things, just so long as you never look down while you're over the canyon, 'cause if you do, you fall.

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It's easier for you because in the back of your mind you know you're still hot and still not quite in middle age.

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Until, of course, it slaps me across the face and says, "Pay attention, dammit!" As it does every now and then

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Doubles every year. Just remember. Every year.

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A prize? Aw, thanks!

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Actually, if I had to guess I would guess you're pretty decently hot. It fits with your personality.

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Hmm, I'm searching for a word, something to capture how I think about that...oh yeah! Liar. I know for a fact the bravado stance comes from being hurt, so it's very likely the feller is seared into your brain.

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I do believe you have a less than needful way, that I believe. But I also know it's exagerated out of a -oh god forgive me for the words- a defense mechanism. You don't merely avoid the sentimental stuff, you put on a SHOW about it.

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I also believe you when you say you run away the first time a man says something soft that girls like to hear.

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"Yaaawwwnnn, this has been great bonding...so, I'm a bit sleepy. Wanna bond some more over there on the bed?".

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I owe you a real live smack on your rear for your insolence, a good one that leaves a red spot for twenty minutes. You're in luck, being that far away. Real luck.

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*griiiiiin*

Bring it on, Sir. Bring it on.

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And sorry to anyone else who feels we've taken over this thread. It's not intentional...it's just that there's so much to say!

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He PROVOKES me! He does it on PURPOSE!

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Actually, the sad fact is that while I'm a GREAT friend and fun to talk to, I am a TERRIBLE girlfriend. I don't do girlfriend stuff, and that seriously does weird guys out. Maybe it is false bravado, but said bravado was formed well before The Guy because it's half the reason I left him.

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Originally posted by BitterBierce:
What did I say earlier? Everyone's real brave when they're out of range of my mitts...or my hand. Feel that slight twinge? It was your butt thanking you.

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Never apologize, never explain.

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A creature rumored to exist but protected by the sacral depth of devils and seraphim alike: a girl fuck-buddy who won't get all emotional!

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And of course you're some kind of goddamn yankee and live somehwere else.

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Could go watch Serenity, fuck, watch some Firefly, fuck some more, and then go shoot pool or let you throw some bowling balls through a window or something and then go HOME (after a last fuck clearly); a perfect sunday.

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You'd have to be outright ugly and bad in bed not to be worth it now. I knew it- you exist and you're unavailable. Oh well, easy come...

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Originally posted by fathounddawg:
Do they drive you to the hospital after, too?

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To further turn your stomach, there is a pizza place in Denver, CO that serves pizza by the pound. They have these giant 7 pound pizzas with the same contest type rules for eating it. I have only seen this on TV. Even an avid pizza lover such as I felt a little queasy after seeing people try to consume that.

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"You're making a very good case for me moving to Texas. Or at least making a quickie...errr...QUICK trip. Big jerk"

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Originally posted by fathounddawg:
A 7 pound pizza would be like eating 7 pounds of bread...unless it's totally overloaded with toppings. Either way...yikes.

There's an ice cream shop near my house that has some sort of "mega bowl" that's 15 scoops or something like that. 15 scoops of ice cream doesn't sound like a lot...but it sure looks huge.

I can't decide if this conversation is making me hungry or nauseous. lol

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Yeppers, Not TOO far... (Not like Toronto and Vancouver, thats a drive!)
Ya I guess we are rivals and well all know how Mustangs are... hee hee
I'm in Arts, thinking of sticking around for honours and a minor... I don't know!!!
You're in Poli-Sci eh? How are you liking that?
Do you drive? hee hee

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Hey! I resemble that Mustang remark Just kidding!

I like poli-sci, I'm (hopefully) graduating this year with an honors degree. Then I'm going back for a year to complete a diploma in writing before applying to grad school. That's the plan anyway.

So what kind of arts classes are you taking? Is it visual arts or English or...?

Yeah, I drive...

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Hiya.
You're doing your diploma at Western?
The grad school, wow you are a machine!
I'm actually in Spanish (its just under the Arts program/college thingy)
after that, time for a real job! Job hunting sucks!
No I'm a horrible drawer. I struggle with stick figures lol.
You have MSN or something? Or is it possible to talk through private messages or something?

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I know what you mean. 15 scoops of ice cream is a heck of a lot of ice cream. I love ice cream and all, but that would, obviously, be too much for me. I guess this is part of the problem when it comes to American portion control. I am amazed sometimes when I look at labels and see how little one serving really is. It makes me feel bad. :(

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Originally posted by fathounddawg:
I think a lot of that is just a dirty advertising trick, so they can say "buy our package of 6 donuts! Only 150 calories!" So you get sucked in and don't realize it's really 150 calories per donut until you've eaten like 4.

Or maybe my communications/marketing focus has made me cynical. :)

Portions are out of control, I'll give you that, but it's hard to avoid, for reasons bigger than just gluttony. Eating - especially eating food worth eating - is such a sensual experience.

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I was watching TV the other day and saw an ad for a burger at some chain American restaurant (like Chilis) and the thing was enormous. Or those triple cheese burgers at Wendy's. Not that they taste bad, I am sure they taste great but they are so outrageous. Hm. Sensual experience, eh? Channeling a little Kaylee are you?

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Originally posted by fathounddawg:
Burgers are especially tricky, I think, because what makes a burger really good is the stuff you put on it and it's easy to go overboard on that. Before you know it, your burger is overwhelmed and eight inches high.

Haha...I guess I was, you're right. :) Though I think a strawberry is a lot sexier to eat than a big meaty burger! lol

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SW Malcolm Reynolds seeking Inara Serra in Manitoba to have verbal spats and not admit our true feelings to one another, but we both know it.

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As long as we are dreaming, I would like a million dollars.

I agree about the burgers. Me, I am a traditionalist. Lettuce, tomato, onion, ketchup and mayo. No pickles. No mustard. No peppers.

What was that burger chain that was trying to sell the sexiness of the burger using that blonde hotel bimbo, Paris Hilton? They seemed to think burgers are pretty sexy. I take your side, though, not really all that sensual.

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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
Philosophy is almost a natural reaction to things we don't understand enough to make a science out of, so yes, I get very philosophical about women. Females make no sense.

Males are much easier to understand on average, as their minds usually work in more simple and immediate ways. If a woman can't understand a man, chances are it's because she's thinking too hard.

Both genders are a source of unending frustration for me, but the few times women have entered any of my "circles", things became infinately more confusing. I'd have to say that the happiest times in my life were when I was deployed and there were absolutley no women around. I had to worry about being shot at on a daily basis, but I honestly remember those times being more enjoyable and relaxing than any time I had a female in my life.

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Originally posted by BitterBierce:
Ok, first things first, what the hell is a snerk? I mean, it's pretty obvious it's close to snark which is like snarky, but it occurs to me those ain't words neither.

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...she smiles and says "Jayne makes my girl parts tingle". I did have to laugh. Never heard that one before. For some reason, I thought of you.

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That's the key to you womenfolk, you all want the same thing. You want a bad boy to be good to YOU.

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I'd have to say that the happiest times in my life were when I was deployed and there were absolutley no women around. I had to worry about being shot at on a daily basis, but I honestly remember those times being more enjoyable and relaxing than any time I had a female in my life.

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Perhaps if gutterball keeps you talking I'll learn enough to cement my theories and we can all look forward to a film/theatre/novel immortalisation of the infamous BitterBierce.

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Originally posted by GutterBall:
I think Henry Kissinger said, "The battle of the sexes will never be won. There's too much fraternizing with the enemy."

Just seems to fit. Let's fraternize, people!

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I haven't had a burger in ages, now that I think of it. I like lots of lettuce and ketchup and mayo, cheese too, maybe bacon if it's real bacon and not that paper thin faux bacon crap. Tomatoes are problematic because they slip and slide all around, but good, nonetheless. I'm a big fan of juicy sauteed onions. Yum yum!

I love the commercial for Date Movie (which I heard was pretty awful) with the chick and the burger, mocking the Paris Hilton spot. I guess I love pretty much anything making fun of Paris. But then...it's almost too easy.

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Not trying to pick a fight either, but my ex used to give me a line all the time about men being somehow "better" than women because he could understand men.

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Well now that's a bit of the standard complaint: both men and women do standard frustrated complaining and primping about the opposite sex. Just the difference is men are supposed to sit there and take it while women run riot and sneer endlessly about men.. Women are allowed to be "sensitive" if the reverse happens. Although that's a general oservation and not so much directed at you because I havent' seen you whine much. But, you brought it up so I talked about it.

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It is hard to top a good burger, at least, for me it is. Fake bacon? Facon? I heard it called that on a TV show once. Got me thinking about all other manner of vegetarian offerings like those tofurkeys for Thanksgiving. My friends and I came up with "falsage" rather than "sausage" and thought we could come up with a whole line of funny names for meat-less products but that was as far as we got.

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Perhaps if gutterball keeps you talking I'll learn enough to cement my theories and we can all look forward to a film/theatre/novel immortalisation of the infamous BitterBierce.

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So...my mission, should I choose to accept it, is to keep the Sir talking? Hmm....

Will this communique self-destruct in five seconds?

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