Firefly and Marijuana by Succatash

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Firefly and Marijuana

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Monday, September 22, 2003 5:59 PM

You know, I'm surprised this subject hasn't come up before. I've noticed there is a distinct lack of pot smokers on this board. I'm really surprised, because I'm sure most pot smokers would really like Firefly. Kaylee has the hippie love and so does River. Hell, they all do.

I think all Browncoats should do whatever possible to help tap into this wide open market.

If you know someone who is abusing marijuana, be sure to mention Firefly.

Not because Firefly is "fun to watch high" but because pot smokers tend to think of themselves as Independents.

Joss Whedon Interview:
What story will you never tell on Buffy, Angel, or Firefly?
"Wow, smoking pot is wrong, I see that now!"

Question #71
http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=366

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Monday, September 22, 2003 7:02 PM

NOOCYTE

Yah, but, ya know, Firefly IS great fun to watch high, because.........what was I talking about?

Ooo, pie!

Department of Redundancy Department

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Monday, September 22, 2003 8:22 PM

CAPTBAGGYTROUSERS

I was given the gift of Firefly by the biggest dope fiend I know. Long may he smoke.

In terms of drug use on the show, I have always really appreciated the fact that in "Safe" Jayne is sure to steal pills from Simon's room. I always imagined he was just gonna try 'em, see what they did.

History repeats the old conceits

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Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:16 AM

DRAKON

Oh come on! At the end of "Out of Gas", when Jayne complains about the "funny smell" in Inara's shuttle? You thought that was incense????

"Wash, where's my damn space ship?"

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Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:28 AM

SERGEANTX

And I thought Inara's eyes were red cause she was worried about Mal, Tsk Tsk...

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Tuesday, September 23, 2003 4:13 AM

DRAKON

Its always bugged me that scene in "Serenity" where they get buzzed by the Reavers, Inara has a handy syringe all ready to go. It has been assumed that it was meant to kill her, rather than be taken by Reavers. Supposed that is mistaken?

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Tuesday, September 23, 2003 4:18 AM

KAYTHRYN

In the Train Job, what was it that the sheriff was smoking?

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Aristotle

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Tuesday, September 23, 2003 7:17 AM

MANIACNUMBERONE

Quote:
Originally posted by Noocyte:
Yah, but, ya know, Firefly IS great fun to watch high, because.........what was I talking about?

Ooo, pie!

Department of Redundancy Department

I had never considered smoking pot until y'all just suggested it, but I'm gonna try it now! I am glad to find a support group for my soon-to-be addiction. I'll let y'all know if it's any fun.

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Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:41 AM

SUENOS

Quote:
I had never considered smoking pot until y'all just suggested it, but I'm gonna try it now! I am glad to find a support group for my soon-to-be addiction. I'll let y'all know if it's any fun.

Never let it be said that this is not a full service site. I just posted a recipe that will be great when you get the munchies! Of course, I've heard people get the munchies....personally I have no firsthand knowledge of this.
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Keep Flying!

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Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:18 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

Was home with a broken wrist when Firefly premeired last year. Not that it needs it, but the show goes pretty well with a couple Percocet.

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Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:19 PM

VEGWEDGE

Oh, hey, yeah, well let me tell you that munchies are the best until you've eaten so much you feel like you're gonna burst, but you still want to eat. That's when enough is enough and it's time for more bong hits. mmmm donut...mmmm weed

vegwedge

Trying is the first step towards failure.

Homer Simpson - paraphrased

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Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:29 PM

Hmmm... read this thread last night, didn't much consider it, till I was asleep... bear with me... I dreamt that I was on a ship, and the crew had just discovered an amazing plant that you can smoke, and feel really really good from, *cough*cannabis!*cough*, but then after a while, you develop an insane appetite, and there just happened to be another ship passing by, so they boarded them and ate them. Thus, the origin of the Reavers.

Ok... I know that's pretty twisted, but in dreams, it doesn't have to make sense to be funny... kinda the same when you're high...

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"Humanity takes itself too seriously. It is the world's original sin. If the caveman had known how to laugh, History would have been different." - Lord Henry, 'The Picture of Dorian Gray'

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Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:29 PM

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Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:43 PM

DRAKON

Yeah that is pretty twisted. I have never heard of weed turning a person cannibal. (there is a story out about a guy who fried his own toes and at them after sniffing butane.)

I would expect a weed induced crew to note the other ship and go "Wow. Look at the lights out there."

I can't believe what we have started here.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:46 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

It's a reach but maybe space cannibus gives you cannibalistic munchies.

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Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:57 PM

KAYTHRYN

See kids? Cannibalistic space munchies, just another reason to say no to drugs.

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Aristotle

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Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:06 PM

SUCCATASH

Cannibal and Cannabis are very close in spelling, and I think that's because eating people can make you feel high. Or maybe it's smoking dead people, I can't remember. Does anyone speak Latin?

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Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:53 PM

JOEMAN

No. It's the conjunctivitis.

Purveyor of Pulchritude

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Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:07 PM

BLACKSTAR

No body *speaks* Latin per se, in any case...

Oh, my God! Who's flying this thing? Oh, right, that would be me...

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Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:21 PM

ZARQUON

Knowing Latin's not gonna be much help. I actually heard a professor of cannibalism talking on the radio not long ago. Cannibal comes from the Spanish word Canibales. And now thanks to the magic of the Oxford Dictionary I know that Cannabis is from the Greek word Kannabis.

How nerdy am I?!

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Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:22 AM

SERGEANTX

I speak Latin. I learned it in college. Not really fluent, but well enough to order in a restaurant or ask directions or something.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:35 AM

JOEMAN

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
I speak Latin. I learned it in college. Not really fluent, but well enough to order in a restaurant or ask directions or something.

That's a big fat fib. Mendax maximus!

Purveyor of Pulchritude

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Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:27 AM

HJERMSTED

Firefly and marijuana were once part of an eagerly aniticipated weekly ritual of mine and several friends.

No cannibalism involved. Justice League and Samurai Jack on cartoon network were the warm acts. Firefly and whatever flavor Ben & Jerry's was handy were the main feature.

Then, to get the adrenalin pumping at 9pm there was the ceremonial sprint to the TV to shut it off before John Doe would come on and kill the buzz.

I MISS THOSE DAYS!!!!

Ooops! Did I say too much? Guess I can't run for political office anymore.

I'm a menace to society!!!!

mattro

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Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:14 PM

ILIKESTRAWBERRIES

Personally, I believe that if Kaylee can develop inter-engine fermentation, then certainly the crew of Serenity can find room in one of their many hidey-holes to grow a little grass. Then they can use it to bribe Alliance officials with.

And Firefly is a little like smoking the pot, it leaves me hungry for more. . .please Joss, make that movie quick!

Hey free soup!

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Monday, November 3, 2003 11:05 AM

POSTER NUTBAG

Quote:
Hjermsted wrote:
Thursday, September 25, 2003 09:27
Firefly and marijuana were once part of an eagerly aniticipated weekly ritual of mine and several friends.

As one of Hjermy's ritualistically converted ME-Junkies, and co-conspirator in the weekly Firefly ritual, I too watched every single episode of Firefly (as well as every Buffy and Angel)

The initial comment about potheads being browncoat material is on-the-money accurate; have a toke and a smile!

Ciao Kids!

El Señor Poster Nutbag

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 11:58 AM

SUCCATASH

Bumping an old thread. Ah, the good old days (cough).

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:05 PM

DAYVE

ahh, sweet Esmarelda... i remember her well Zig-Zag

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:06 PM

DEEPGIRL187

Me being the sick mind that I am, I always wondered which characters would be most likely to get stoned. My vote is Wash. Though I'm sure he would have to be cautious of Zoe (don't see her as the type to get stoned), you have to admit it would be funny as hell to see him trying to fly the ship completely blitzed.

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"See, this is a sign of your tragic space dementia. All paranoid and crotchety, it breaks the heart."

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:11 PM

TEACHDAIRE

My opinion is that Jayne is a closet pothead.

My reasons,

i, He spends an inordinate amount of time "in his bunk"
ii, When he is asleep, not even an intruder can wake him up.
iii, He gives names and assigns personalities to inamimate objects.
iiii, He's almost always eating (big time munchies).

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:19 PM

MSG

LOL teachdaire:)
However...reminder there are many under 18's on this board...perhaps we could confine conversations about recreational pharmacuticals to somewhere else:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:22 PM

FIZZIX

Quote:
Originally posted by Succatash:
You know, I'm surprised this subject hasn't come up before. I've noticed there is a distinct lack of pot smokers on this board. I'm really surprised, because I'm sure most pot smokers would really like Firefly. Kaylee has the hippie love and so does River. Hell, they all do.

I think all Browncoats should do whatever possible to help tap into this wide open market.

If you know someone who is abusing marijuana, be sure to mention Firefly.

Not because Firefly is "fun to watch high" but because pot smokers tend to think of themselves as Independents.

Joss Whedon Interview:
What story will you never tell on Buffy, Angel, or Firefly?
"Wow, smoking pot is wrong, I see that now!"

Question #71
http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=366

Serenity Visual Companion: "And pot was totally legal (though I probably won't stress that). (In fact, forget I said it.)" Page 12, Pre Production memo, A breief history of the universe circa 2507 A.D.

Reasearch. Wootage, I was wondering if that would ever help me.

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:26 PM

SUCCATASH

I would have loved a scene with Book, Inara and Jayne smoking the hookah in Inara's shuttle.

I can picture Inara and Book philosophically discussing meditation and religion -- and then Jayne just bursts out laughing.

Or something like that.

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 1:09 PM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

I have a bowl named Esmerelda .It's ceramic with eyes ,nose & the bowl being his mouth.

I love this thread !

Bryce
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I swallowed a bug

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 1:29 PM

ARCADIA

Haha -- that would be hilarious. Especially if when he was done laughing he said something incredibly insightful/stoned.

Gotta love the 'verse, where my Mary Jane is nice and legal (the visual companion tells us so, hehe).

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 1:36 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Not that I don't respect you and your decisions, but get a clue. So alcohol and tobacco ruin lives. Thats just because it is sold over the counter to anybody with the proper (or at times inproper) credentials.
Working with kids I see the direct and indirect consequences of pot usage. Can you imagine seeing a kid three years after they start using. And thats all they use. Only to see them dumber that the first time you met them. Or friends that you grew up with having the same problem.
Please do one thing for me. Look outside yourself. I'm sure many on this forum will tell you the same thing. From the outside looking in most potheads only think of the world as it realtes to being high, smoking pot, or your next experience. Its kinda like dragging a person whose never left New York City to the wilderness of Nevada (I've done it). The insecurity of looking at the world without the hazy glasses can be a scary thing.
But who am I to talk. I sometimes watch FF/BDM while sobering up and eating whatever. Just limit yourself while having fun. Hate to find out that FF/BDM were just a novelty for the high times.

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 2:03 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Sorry 'bout the rant.

It could be worse.

Y'all could be E-tards.

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 2:04 PM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:
I had never considered smoking pot until y'all just suggested it, but I'm gonna try it now! I am glad to find a support group for my soon-to-be addiction. I'll let y'all know if it's any fun.

Unfortunatly you can't get addicted to pot, but good luck trying.

EDIT:
Just saw the date of the original post, heh disregard

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 2:31 PM

CITIZEN

Hey nvghostrider:
I've seen and experienced the highs and lows of cannabis, and seriously Tobacco’s effects are far more dangerous to all, plus there's the whole fact that it is one of the most addictive substances known to man, while cannabis is non-addictive. Alcohol will cause harm to anyone who drinks to excess and is likewise addictive.

If you smoke twenty joints a day it's going to have an effect, if you drink twenty pints a day it's going to kill you and soon. Violence and borderline sociopathic behaviour go hand in hand with alcoholism; cannabis’s harms are far more introverted.

Sure Cannabis isn't as safe as proponents would like it known, but the worst thing cannabis will do is bring out an underlying mental condition that may never have surfaced.

What I mean to say is that you’re seeing absolutely the worst of cannabis and then looking at the big picture of other substances. Seriously Tobacco and Alcohol's reputation of 'being worse' than cannabis is well deserved and has nothing to do with them being more easily available.

That’s not to say that when people start in on the “cannabis is completely safe!” line it doesn’t piss me off. Be under no illusions cannabis really can ruin lives, and ‘cause’ serious mental illnesses in a minority of people, but to say it is worse or even as bad as Alcohol or Tobacco is just wrong.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 4:34 PM

NOSADSEVEN

Quote:
Originally posted by CB:
Hmmm... read this thread last night, didn't much consider it, till I was asleep... bear with me... I dreamt that I was on a ship, and the crew had just discovered an amazing plant that you can smoke, and feel really really good from, *cough*cannabis!*cough*, but then after a while, you develop an insane appetite, and there just happened to be another ship passing by, so they boarded them and ate them. Thus, the origin of the Reavers.

Eerily on target, I'd say.

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Ain't. We. Just.

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 9:28 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Well thanks to this post I just had an entire scene play out in my mind of Wash getting totally high. I started to type out what I imagined but realized it would be too long so I'll post it in a blog (my first.)

Actually it would make for a good fic, but though I can write I've had a problem with the FF lingo. Just want to get the idea down though before I forget it.

I can see all of them getting high, and Mal mellowing out for once in a long while.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

In regards to this post, I actually made it into a fic, don't know how it happened it just evolved. Part 2 is yet to be written.

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Friday, August 4, 2006 12:02 AM

CRUITHNE3753

I don't need drugs, I get high on Firefly.

Yeah, and maybe the odd bottle of a good ale.

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Friday, August 4, 2006 1:07 AM

FILLYGIRL

Operative: "Its worse than you know..." Mal: "It usually is."

My two cents,...I started at 22 and have smoked for over 30 years.(God,am I THAT old?)I don't drink, don't smoke cigaretts, and don't drive stoned. I do not see any affect on me or my brain,....latest IQ test said 131, so I guess the brain is still holding. Like all 'party goods', use in moderation, and at home, I know not every one should smoke,....but for me its the greatest thing on the planet,....where are my Oreo's?? ...and milk, I need milk

...it's worst than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

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Friday, August 4, 2006 2:25 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Thanks Citizen for the input.
I have to correct myself a little. To say THC is as dangerous as other legal drugs may be wrong. But only in certain populations.
Not tryin' to yank your chain 'cause you are miles ahead of me in the brainpan. Not to mention I think if given the chance you could argue even the pope outta the papacy.
I just wonder where you're coming from. Are you a minority? And from what minority groups?
Combine any number of people's minority groups.
They are the majority.
I had compiled a list of arguments and observations directly from experience, but most are wasted on paranoid and clouded ears.
One point I'd like to make. Studies, no matter where they come from, will always be wrong on this subject. There are so many variations of Marijuana that an accurate study will probably never be done. Pot is no longer natural. Its been bred and altered "naturally" so many times that there possibly no way to ever get it back in its natural state.
Just concerned for the well being of my fellow 'coats. Though it has been stated THC is non-addictive, see it from my shoes. As a human service worker for a "minority" group, as with many other workers from other groups, we are on the frontline of the new world. From what the children are telling us, We're headed down a bad road. Just think about your kids.
(Sorry, sounded like Mr. T for a sec.)
Love y'all.

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Friday, August 4, 2006 3:24 AM

HAIDAO

Who on the ship would you want to smoke with?

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Friday, August 4, 2006 4:10 AM

FELLOWTRAVELER

Here here Citizen.

Packing one in your honor.

Did someone mention pie?

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, pie...............

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Friday, August 4, 2006 4:28 AM

DAYVE

One of the funniest movie quotes I’ve heard was from Jackie Brown...

The Samuel L. Jackson character (Ordell) tells the Bridget Fonda character (Mel)
“Damn girl, it’s 8 0’clock in the morning and you already getting high…. All you do is smoke and watch TV. That shit’s gonna ruin your ambition..”

Mel replies:
“Not if your ambition is to get high and watch TV…”

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Friday, August 4, 2006 4:39 AM

FELLOWTRAVELER

Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:
One of the funniest movie quotes I’ve heard was from Jackie Brown...

The Samuel L. Jackson character (Ordell) tells the Bridget Fonda character (Mel)
“Damn girl, it’s 8 0’clock in the morning and you already getting high…. All you do is smoke and watch TV. That shit’s gonna ruin your ambition..”

Mel replies:
“Not if your ambition is to get high and watch TV…”

Your right, man. It's too early for that. I'll have a screwdriver instead!

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Friday, August 4, 2006 8:15 AM

USMC

I post rarely, but visit daily. This topic rocks!
Party on dudes and dudettes.

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Friday, August 4, 2006 6:22 PM

TRAVELER

An old friend visited me about a year ago. He wanted to borrow ten bucks from me. I knew what it was for so I said no. He started to cry. Like a baby.

I won't describe what he looked like or what his clothes were like. Just say he matched the gutter he was probably living in.

I've gone to more than one funeral involving drugs. Not pretty. They do a fair job of covering the exit wounds to the back of the head.

I've been there. I got out. God it was the hardest thing I ever did. I've seen more lost souls than I ever would want to count.

One was my father. He lost his work, his family and then his life. He was 58.

Ever visit a mental hospital? I have. Do you know why most people are there? I do.
Drugs. You don't beleave me. Go visit one. Talk to some doctors while your there.

I have on more than one occasion taken somebody to a hospital to be treated for this disease called addiction. These are things you learn to do in AA. Holding people so the know their alive.
Sitting up with somebody and just talking nonsense untill the urge is gone and the can finally go to sleep. You do it because they did it for you. I don't like losing friends to this shit. I'm tired of it. You learn what it is like to be locked up. You learn how to make coffee. You learn how to listen if it takes all night.
You learn to stay sober one day at a time.

Alcohol and pot take years. They are very patient. They aren't worried about time. Coke and crack are greedy they want your life right now. That's about the only difference. The end is the same.

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Friday, August 4, 2006 6:55 PM

USMC

lol, sorry to hear that.

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Friday, August 4, 2006 7:10 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Citizen

To say it isn't additive is not true - it can be psychologically addictive, and to say it isn't harmful is also untrue. Smoking it for 20 years caused my brothers brain to stop making serotonin. As a result he is on antidepressant now and will be for the rest of his life.

Bottom line, anything you inhale into your lungs that isn't oxygen - is harmful.

But on a non-serious note - I am not sure we want to encourage pot smokers to embrace the verse. Got nothin against pot smokers, but imagine their distress when they day comes when they have to choose purchasing a nifty firefly bit o memorabilia - or a dime bag! What Horror!

We are The Forsaken - We aim to burn! and we don't need no stinkin levels!

one of the Forsaken TM

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