What do I do about those I can't convert? by micjwelch

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What do I do about those I can't convert?

POSTED BY: MICJWELCH
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 8, 2006 20:10
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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 6:34 PM

My wife seems to think that I have an unhealthy obsession with this show. I think she's nuts, but hey, she thinks the same thing about me. I don't get it, because she's a big fan of Joss Whedon. Anybody have any suggestions on how to deal with all those crazy people who just don't understand?

"We may experience some slight turbulence, and then... explode."

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 6:40 PM

MATTCOZ

So she doesn't like it at all, or just thinks your obsession is unhealthy? I know mine is.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 6:40 PM

TEALCANDTRIP

Call them 'beigecoats.'

Then sigh and duct-tape 'em to the couch.

"I also hear that there's something called Firefly, which is either a canceled science-fiction television show or a new religion, I'm not clear on that. Either way, prayers for the resurrection are involved." – Lore Sjoberg

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 6:43 PM

AGIRLYMAN

Get a new wife!

AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?!?!?

Tee Hee

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 7:27 PM

KHYRON

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Originally posted by agirlyman:
Get a new wife!

I agree, divorce is the only sensible option in response to this. If you guys can't have Firefly in common, then what can you have in common?

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 7:44 PM

ROLAND19

Quote:
Originally posted by Khyron:
Quote:
Originally posted by agirlyman:
Get a new wife!

I agree, divorce is the only sensible option in response to this.

Not neccessarily true...

Ever see "A Clockwork Orange"?

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 8:29 PM

SIGMANUNKI

To give a non-tongue-in-cheek remark, I'd say just leave it be.

You know the crazy religous guy around the corner that always bugs you to join whatever religion (s)he is into that you just want to hit? Well, if you don't drop it, you become that guy. Everyone has there opinion, let them have it. Brow-beating them with FF is a sure fire way to have them not get into the show... and royally piss them off.

In all seriousness, if your obsession with FF is interfering with you real life, then it is a problem. You should take care of that. Especially if it is causing tension between you and your wife.

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 3:13 AM

MICJWELCH

Okay, I'm not going to leave her. She's too blasted cute for that. :-) And she watches Stargate Atlantis with me.

As far as the crazy guy goes, I was a mormon missionary for two years. I learned how not to be the crazy guy.

I wouldn't say my involvement with Firefly is unhealthy, but she would. I don't even own the series (I know, herecy!). I found a paper model kit of Serenity a while ago. Believe me, I was stoked. But the first thing she said was that it was going to take me away from her. I guess I should mention that she just had a baby a month ago, so she's a little hormonal, but that only accounts for some of it. Anyway, I have started the second engine, and that's as far as I've gotten. I think I've typed on these forumns four or five times in the last week.

She did definitely agree with one of the "You might be a browncoat if..." things. Sorry if I quote it wrong, but it was something like "Your family knows every line not because they've seen the series, but because you won't stop quoting it." Truth is, I won't stop quoting movies at all.

Okay, I'm rambling. Anyway...

"We may experience some slight turbulence, and then... explode."

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 3:20 AM

DINKY

Umm... I think the guy promiting the idea of divorcing her was joking...

That post had the most internet-sarcasm I have ever read. It was funny.

"Th3re !s n0 spo0Ne." -The Matricks

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 3:30 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Well, I have to agree w/ Sigmanunki to a point. You don't want to push your wife on the whole Firefly issue because it will make her all the more intent not to watch. Trust me, I know.

My wife is not much of a sci fi person. She would watch the occasional Stargate episode with me, or go see one of the Star Wars prequels, but she just is not much into the whole sci fi genre. When Firefly was on & I really got into it I wanted to share the show & my enthusiasm with her. She was not interested. The more I asked, the more determined she was to not watch. Knowing it was a losing battle I backed off and let it be. She would read while I watched & would look up from time to time, or would surf the net & kind of listen in when something funny was being said. Occasionally on her way in or out of the room she would stop and watch for a few minutes. By the end of the series, entirely on her own, she started watching episodes with me. Then that go sa Fox cancelled it. *sighs*

When the DVD came out, my darling wife bought it for me. It was the best gift ever. We watched episoded together & even discussed them. She has been a browncoat ever since, perhaps not to the same level of enthusiasm as myself, but the fact she is a browncoat at all is big plus for me.

If your wife watches sci fi with you such as SG Atlantis, give her time. Get the DVD set for the show & watch. Ask her if she wants to watch, but if she says no, let it go. She either will or won't on her own, but it has to be her decision.

Hope it all works out for you. Keep flyin'!

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"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 3:38 AM

GRIZWALD

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she just had a baby a month ago

Okay, now I get it. Big problems here.

First of all, you don't say "She just had a baby," you say, "WE just had a baby." Go practice it 5 times in front of the mirror. I don't wanna EVER hear you say it wrong again. Got it?

Next, here's what you do: You say, "Dear wife, you need a break. Let me have little Precious for an hour or two, okay? You go do whatever you want to. Take a bath. Read a book. Take a walk. Stare at the wall. Nap. Whatever. I promise that we will take care of ourselves for two hours, and we will be FINE. C'mon Precious, you and Daddy are going to have some Daddy and Precious Time!" And then, of course, you go start indoctrinating Precious into the wonders of Firefly.

By the way, just in case you weren't aware of this, it is possible to watch television in a standing position. You stand up and rock the baby back and forth and up and down and all around and you can still see Firefly, Precious gets all that stuff imprinted on his/her impressionable wee brain in these formative years, and your wife melts because you are such a great guy.

Oh, and don't ask her to watch with you ever again. Make a big deal about how you and Precious are big fans and that Precious loves to watch with you and is a teensy little Browncoatlet.

Who knows, once the pressure is off and it's not a Wife vs. Firefly thing, maybe she'll join you eventually. I wouldn't count on it. In our house, it was Wife vs. Sailboat, and while I've calmed down, I still think of that stupid sailboat as The Other Woman, and I won't set foot in her for fear she will drown me in a "sailing accident."

EDITED to add: Oops, you don't have the DVDs. You can go get them now. Now that you are a reformed Superdad, you have my permission.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 3:48 AM

ZISKER

Griz - you owe me a keyboard. I just chortled my milk onto this one. You have officially made my day and it's only nine in the morning. That is the funniest thing I have ever read on this board. Thank you.

Mic - this sounds like sage advice. Run with it.

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 3:54 AM

MICJWELCH

Hey, I was there. SHE had the baby. I saw the whole thing. I had very little to do with that. I can't take credit for it. I didn't even need any pain meds. And now, because of her, we have the cutest little baby in the whole world (just because I'm biased doesn't mean I'm wrong).

The only problem with converting the little munchkin is that she doesn't really like gunfire. But I think she can get used to it. Problem is I have to pry the other two kids away from JoJo's Circus and Thomas the Tank Engine long enough to watch some real tv. :-)

Hey, I did find one solution though. I got up at 6:00 am this morning, and I can do whatever I want. :-) She's kind of a night person. I'm kind of a morning person.

Anyway, thanks guys. I knew somebody might take this question seriously.

"We may experience some slight turbulence, and then... explode."

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 3:59 AM

PSOLARIS

Quote:
Originally posted by micjwelch:
Hey, I was there. SHE had the baby. I saw the whole thing. I had very little to do with that. I can't take credit for it.

I'm uh, pretty sure you had something to do with it, otherwise how did the baby get there in the first place

So I give you credit for that.

And just because she's the one that was actually, physically in labor, you both still had the child.

Ooops, I'm sorry, Browncoatlet

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 4:00 AM

JONESTEIN

Some people just can't be converted. My buddy loves the show(I hooked him on the show/movie a couple weeks ago), but he just isn't the fan-activist type. To him, while Firefly is a great TV show, it is still JUST a TV show. So he's another "Beigecoat", like my wife.

And some, like another buddy of mine, just don't get Joss Whedon shows at all. He assumes anything Whedonesque is juvenile...this coming from someone who LOVES reality TV, so he's lacking a bit in the credibility department as far as I'm concerened. Stubborn folk like him can't even be converted to "Coffeestaincoats". Oh well, his loss, really.

It is indeed a fine line we Browncoats walk between enthusiastic fandom and street-corner fanaticism...just gotta keep things in perspective I suppose...

-Jonestein

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OPERATIVE: ...and I'm unarmed.
MAL: Good.
(BLAM!)

FIGHT TO RE-LIGHT!!
www.browncoatsriseagain.com
www.texasbrowncoats.com
www.fortworthbrowncoats.com

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 4:09 AM

GRIZWALD

Quote:
Originally posted by Zisker:
Griz - you owe me a keyboard.

*hands Zisker a few baby wipes to clean up keyboard with*

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 4:20 AM

KAELE

Oh.

My.

God.

Griz.

That was just the funniest thing ever.

Ok, Mic. You've got a gameplan. Run with it. Just like most dad's explain football or baseball to the wee ones, you can explain Firefly. Babies need to be trained to accept noise and just about everyone encourages you to go about your normal day and not sneak around while they're sleeping. My son can sleep through world war III now. My daughter on the other hand... *sigh*

Give the hormonal thing a little time to die down. My last time took an entire year. Especially encourage her to take a nap.

Or even better, hand her the credit card and say, "March 10th, sweetheart, I want to treat you to a day at the spa. You need time to relax. Go get your nails done, your hair done, go out to lunch with your friends. I'll see you at 7:00. I love you."

Then sit down and watch the SciFi marathon with your Browncoatlet.

~Kaele
Who has done more hours watching TV while nursing or doing the 'standing baby bounce' than she can count.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 6:53 AM

NOSADSEVEN

Quote:
Originally posted by micjwelch:
I wouldn't say my involvement with Firefly is unhealthy, but she would. I don't even own the series (I know, herecy!). I found a paper model kit of Serenity a while ago. Believe me, I was stoked. But the first thing she said was that it was going to take me away from her. I guess I should mention that she just had a baby a month ago, so she's a little hormonal, but that only accounts for some of it.

See, this is the essense of it. She doesn't seem to have a problem with Firefly per se, she just has fears and (reasonable, logical) concern about your being there for her during a crazy time. What you need to do is make sure that you are there to meet whatever needs she has - not to take the baby from her, so much as to take care of her and her other responsibilities so that she can be with the baby (by keeping the house in order, preparing food, helping with the older kids before she requests it, etc.). If she perceives you as not being there for her enough, she will focus on Firefly as the cause, whether or not it is in reality. The best way to defend against thet is not to defend your affinity for things Firefly, but to address her very natural concerns by demonstrating you are there for her. If you don't tread carefully, Firefly will become a point of contention for any issues you are experiencing, souring it for both of you forever.

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Ain't. We. Just.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:12 AM

SICKDUDE

Everyone's a Browncoat. It's just that somebody else is carring their boxset around for a while.

"It's a cow."

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:29 AM

KAELE

Quote:
Originally posted by Sickdude:
Everyone's a Browncoat. It's just that somebody else is carring their boxset around for a while.

THAT'S IT EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~Kaele

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:30 AM

MAL4PREZ

Quote:
Originally posted by Sickdude:
Everyone's a Browncoat. It's just that somebody else is carring their boxset around for a while.

"It's a cow."

BWAA-HA-HA!

This thread is just too funny to comment on everything. You guys/gals rock!

Ask Dr. Science ... he knows more than you do.
"I have a Master's degree ... in science!"

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:47 AM

SINGATE

Quote:
Originally posted by Sickdude:
Everyone's a Browncoat. It's just that somebody else is carrying their boxset around for a while.

Somebody, if not you, really needs to be using this as their signature. Well done!

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We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:53 AM

SICKDUDE

Help yourself. And thanks, all.

"It's a cow."

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:54 AM

JONESTEIN

Quote:
Originally posted by singate:
Quote:
Originally posted by Sickdude:
Everyone's a Browncoat. It's just that somebody else is carrying their boxset around for a while.

Somebody, if not you, really needs to be using this as their signature. Well done!

Here, here! I second that!
What a great line...wish I'd a-thunk of it!

-Jonestein

*************************************
OPERATIVE: ...and I'm unarmed.
MAL: Good.
(BLAM!)

FIGHT TO RE-LIGHT!!
www.browncoatsriseagain.com
www.texasbrowncoats.com
www.fortworthbrowncoats.com

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 9:10 AM

TEALCANDTRIP

Okay, seriously, Jonestein, I've been rooting for beigecoat, but if 'coffeestaincoat' doesn't become a part of our lexicon, I'm gonna cry.

My giddy aunt! You guys are great!

"I also hear that there's something called Firefly, which is either a canceled science-fiction television show or a new religion, I'm not clear on that. Either way, prayers for the resurrection are involved." – Lore Sjoberg

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 9:21 AM

COPILOT

All you have to do to convert people is pop in a DVD and leave the T.V. on. They'll stop in there tracks and go what's that? Then they sit down and start laughing. Then they ask to borrow it or see it from the begining. It's really that simple.

An I carried such a torch

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 10:42 AM

SIGMANUNKI

Quote:
Originally posted by micjwelch:

I guess I should mention that she just had a baby a month ago, so she's a little hormonal, but that only accounts for some of it.

I think that you're underestimating the effects of hormons. I'd stay clear of this subject with her until things "normalize."

You got some good advice here for doing so. Run with it and I gather everything will work itself out

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 11:42 AM

AGIRLYMAN

We still talking about this? What I should have said "Grow a pair" lmao, or introduce her to "Sang yu", so she can use those techniques to learn the real you.

AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?!?!?

Tee Hee

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:10 PM

FLORALBUNNY

Delightful, Griz!
Friend of mine used to refer to her husband's race car as "The Floozy." As in "He spent last night with..."
They had little munchkins, too.

Agree with all who say not to push it.

I wasn't forced to watch football all weekend, but the offspring enjoyed sitting with Dad and some early vocabulary included the names of the quarterback, coach, teams. Insidious!

Teach that babe in arms the Ballad of Jayne and the Firely theme song for lullabyes.

Heh.

bun
-- bastards singed my turtle --
----- why's the rum gone? -----

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