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We don't need any more...

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POSTED BY: DONCOAT
UPDATED: Monday, April 10, 2006 22:39
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Sunday, April 9, 2006 8:17 AM

This is inspired by a comment in one of the newbie greeting threads, to wit: "If there's one thing we can always use more of, it's new Browncoats."

But here are a few things we don't need any more of...

- Reavers

- Blue hand guys

- Broke synchronizers

- Operatives

- Failed Alliance behavior-control experiments

- Key members of Parliament

- Husbands for YoSaffBridge

- Fox programming executives

- Flans who gloomily insist that FF/S is "done" or "over"

I'm guessing we can think of a few more...

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I don't disagree on any particular point.

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 8:23 AM

MMMWIFESOUP

We could use less of River's bouts of space sickness directed at loving siblings bedspreads. Yuck.

-- My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle --

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 8:47 AM

FLORALBUNNY

Damage to Jayne's right leg. Seems it's the only place he ever gets hurt.
Should have been amputated after that Reaver harpooning in Serenity.

bun
-- bastards singed my turtle --
----- why's the rum gone? -----

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 9:06 AM

EMBERS

I disagree...
we get rid of all the bad hurtful and evil stuff and Joss will just stop writing,
because you know it is ALWAYS all about the pain, and the death, and the general mayhem....

so bring on the blue hand guys (do they work for Blue Sun)?
bring on the members of Parliament (who want revenge...but of course from their POV it must be justified)
bring on any left over Reavers who were away from Miranda when .. well, you know...

I would like to meet a lot more of Saffron's husbands...

Jayne can tolerate an unlimited number of leg wounds (see how just pouring liquor over it healed the whole thing of having your leg skewered with a harpoon? amazing)

BRING IT ALL ON! (anything so long as we get our sequel soon...)

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watch the R. Tam Session vids: http://www.hittarivertam.nu/
and buy the 'Serenity' comics published by Dark Horse
have you checked out this thread?:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816

and listen to 'I'm Going To See Serenity':
http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=a0
c814e1229742ce77ed4497cbf4631c

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 9:26 AM

DONCOAT

Embers,

You're right, of course... as fans we want to see all that and more, and more, and more.

But in real life, or if we were crewmen on Serenity in the 'verse, we wouldn't really want to see any of those things. That's the POV I was taking in the original post.

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I don't disagree on any particular point.

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 9:44 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by DonCoat:
if we were crewmen on Serenity in the 'verse, we wouldn't really want to see any of those things. That's the POV I was taking in the original post.

LOL
I get that...
but I'm just sayin' that in BtVS Joss once said that he'll never be writing about "the boring world of happy people"(!)

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watch the R. Tam Session vids: http://www.hittarivertam.nu/
and buy the 'Serenity' comics published by Dark Horse
have you checked out this thread?:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816

and listen to 'I'm Going To See Serenity':
http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=a0
c814e1229742ce77ed4497cbf4631c

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 9:44 AM

OURMRSWASHBURNE

Cows in the docking bay...

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I'll be in Wash's bunk.
Being stalked by Zoe and Vera...

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 9:56 AM

GRIZWALD

-- Tattooed henchmen.

-- Loose primary buffer panels.

-- Protein paste soup.

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They could not take the sky from them -
Our Big Damn Heroes made a film!
I'm gonna see Serenity then
go back the next morning and see it again.
Cuz no one at Fox knew this show had no equal
C'mon Universal, and greenlight the sequel!

Click on my profile for my Annoyingly Long List of Firefly Links.

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 10:44 AM

SERYN

- Less lipstick-based woozy makers.

(but more hats made from trees!)

If you're Mal anyway.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:05 AM

NCBROWNCOAT

...Belly wounds for Mal or any character Nathan is playing.

...terrifying space monkeys

... Jayne taking River for a "nice shuttle ride"

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:08 AM

SERYN

oh, yeah, and as a fan, what we could definetly do with less,

- Shirts

FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:11 AM

NCBROWNCOAT

...yes!, no more shirts on Mal, Simon or even gadzooks, Wash.

They can keep the suspenders(the old ones from the series, not rubbery ones from the movie)-would look a little different but sexy

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:40 AM

SERYN

you're forgetting Jayne!

Jaynes ability to really emote and convey the more, ah... well.... attractive facets of his character would be vastly improved by the absence of a shirt.

But I am derailing the thread. Carry on...

From Kaylees pov, less

- Light power switches most of the way up that wall at the back of the engine room

- shooting at folks

From my pov, less

-needles!

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 12:01 PM

ZOID

seryn:

Yes! Less shirts!

No shirts for Inara, Zoe and Kaylee. That would make the 'verse infinitely shinier. Heck, I'll even allow the guys can be shirtless too, so long as it's a coed deal.

Are you sure you're not Joss? 'Cause that was genius...

Pectorally,

zoid

P.S.
And should YoSaffBridge make a return, sauce for the goose, shirtwise...
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"I aim to misbehave without my shirt on." -Capt. Mal Reynolds (paraphrased, sorta), Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 12:08 PM

SERYN

So we are all agreed, Firefly would be infinitly improved by a sudden lack of shirts in the 'verse.

Well, thats all our problems solved! Morena Baccarin and Adam Baldwin shirtless? Fox will love it! Quick, someone get an exec on the line! We have to schedule a meeting!

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 2:06 PM

ZOID

seryn wrote:

Quote:
So we are all agreed, Firefly would be infinitly improved by a sudden lack of shirts in the 'verse.

Well, thats all our problems solved! Morena Baccarin and Adam Baldwin shirtless? Fox will love it! Quick, someone get an exec on the line! We have to schedule a meeting!

Done. I'm having my girl phone their girl, so they can do lunch. Whatever they decide over a couple of Mimosas, we'll do. It's the Hollywood Way.

What good are shirts, anyway? I mean, all they do is cover up Morena's... Ummm, that is, they hide a person's... erm, characteristic mammalian physical features, uh... Ulp! I need to sit down for a sec. I'm suddenly very light-headed, for some reason.

*spends 30 seconds doing deep-breathing exercises*

Uhhh, what we really need less of is large wooden stakes. And less talking about less shirts...

Hyperventilatingly,

zoid

P.S.
But seriously. What's the big deal about a naked pair of breasts?
(Shite, I need to sit down again.)
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"...and you can't change that just by getting all... bendy... You got the light, from the console to keep you, to lift you up... they shine like little angels." -Jayne Cobb, doubtless contemplating the prospect of a shirtless Inara, Firefly, "The Train Job"

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 3:01 PM

BROWNCOATSANDINISTA

We don't need any more -
Psychotic one eyed former Feds out to kill our Captain.
Characters we like dying.
Reasons to like the show ((But ten to your one we'll get em anyways.))

And most definately, less shirts.

p.s. Good question Zoid. Maybe because it makes us menfolk more pliable, less able to concentrate on the task at hand, etc. etc. and so forth.

If anyone gets nosy...Shoot em.
Shoot em sir?
Politely.

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 4:30 PM

MILFORD

...and their largish droppings.

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Leaning into the wind that used to carry me-Stavesacre
That's why I don't kiss'em on the mouth- Jayne Cobb

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 7:31 PM

SIXSHOOTER

- Stinking badges?

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 7:40 PM

BROWNCOATSANDINISTA

Bullets with our names on em.

If anyone gets nosy...Shoot em.
Shoot em sir?
Politely.

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Monday, April 10, 2006 1:07 AM

SAB39

Bastards singing our turtles.

(I'd put off reading Dead or Alive, not sure why. But wow...)

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Monday, April 10, 2006 1:11 AM

DOWIE100

We don't need

1) More people who think Stars Wars is better than Firefly (its good but not that good)
2) Trolls
3) People with no faith in the verse
4) Fox, Fox and more Fox
5) Trolls

We need
1) More Browncoats
2) More Jayne
3) More Firefly
4) More Serenity
5) Pitchforks for storming Fox HQ to steal to reclaim the Firefly rights.

"You can't take the sky from me"

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Monday, April 10, 2006 1:16 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS

"guys who like to shoot at girls when they get nervous..."

aka Dobson

or however that line goes

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Monday, April 10, 2006 2:42 AM

CAPTAINJOSH06

I got a sword! And a shield which needs finishing, it still needs its boss cap fixing in place.

*Puts on Browncoat*
*Catches first plane to Fox HQ*

Greatz!
CaptainJosh

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Monday, April 10, 2006 3:12 AM

STICK

Quote:
Originally posted by DonCoat:

But here are a few things we don't need any more of...

- Reavers

- Blue hand guys

- Broke synchronizers

- Operatives

- Failed Alliance behavior-control experiments

- Key members of Parliament

- Husbands for YoSaffBridge

- Fox programming executives

- Flans who gloomily insist that FF/S is "done" or "over"

I'm guessing we can think of a few more...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I don't disagree on any particular point.

Hmmmm how about a thread about blue handded operatives of parliment that after a failed allied experiment to fix broken syncronizers decide to sick reavers on fox programing executives and fans that insist that FF/S is "done" and constantly swoon over YoSaffBridge.

I think that thread would be good

"Once you've been to serenity you never leave... you just learn to live there"

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Monday, April 10, 2006 4:03 AM

CIOCCOLATA

We dont need any more.....

Inevitable but expected betrayal of t-rex over our land...curse you t-rex.

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Monday, April 10, 2006 4:09 AM

CIOCCOLATA

We don't need any more of....

Inevitable but expected betrayel of t-rex over "This Land"....curse you t-rex and your inevitable betrayel...

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Monday, April 10, 2006 4:18 AM

TRISTAN

Thought of a good one from River's POV:

Less Shepard hair.

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Monday, April 10, 2006 4:26 AM

ARABIKUM

I wonder, what those Alliance-Guys in their rubber-uniforms remind me of… I can´t remember right now. I only know, that I.A.V. “Dortmunder” might be a hint…

Whatever they look like: we don´t need any more of those space-balls-starship-troopers-and-star-wars-kind-of-leni-riefenstahl-fashioned-villains. The Nazis in Indiana Jones seemed to be deeper in characterization. Shame on you, Joss.

A.

No offence boys & girls. I love the show.

A Dragonbreth Gilthorpial!!

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Monday, April 10, 2006 4:36 AM

VILAVON

I'm still flying in 2021. How about you?

We DO need to see more bounty hunters floating in outer space with their o2 running out.

Just not insane ones though.

Vilavon AKA Claude

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Monday, April 10, 2006 6:15 AM

DONCOAT

Quote:
Originally posted by Arabikum:
I wonder, what those Alliance-Guys in their rubber-uniforms remind me of… I can´t remember right now. I only know, that I.A.V. “Dortmunder” might be a hint…

Whatever they look like: we don´t need any more of those space-balls-starship-troopers-and-star-wars-kind-of-leni-riefenstahl-fashioned-villains. The Nazis in Indiana Jones seemed to be deeper in characterization. Shame on you, Joss.

Perhaps you aren't aware that Firefly reused the Alliance soldier outfits from Starship Troopers as a cost-saving measure. If they're too storm trooperish for your taste, well, blame Verhoeven, not Joss.

Quote:
Originally posted by Arabikum:
A Dragonbreth Gilthorpial!!

Sillyman parimutuel?

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I don't disagree on any particular point.

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Monday, April 10, 2006 9:03 AM

LILKAYLEE29

Spoilers Ahead if one has not seen Buffy, Angel, or Firefly or Serenity yet.........go no further and pick up those DVD's now!!

We don't need any more of our shiny big damn heroes dying on any of Joss's shows. Can't count Buffy, Spike or Angel cause they all came back. I miss each and every one of them: Buffy: Jenny, Joyce, Tara, Anya. Angel: Doyle, Cordelia, Fred, Wesley, Darla, Lindsey, Lilah
Firefly/Serenity: Book & Wash

Special Mention: No more eye gouging, Xander deserves both his eyes. That was disturbing to watch.

No more gorram potential slayers.

No more gorram space pirates trying to take Serenity and trying to kill our crew.

I'm a leaf on the wind....Watch how I soar.

Wash: Captain, don't you know kissin' girls makes ya sleepy? Mal: Sometimes I just can't help myself.

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Monday, April 10, 2006 10:39 PM

ARABIKUM

Quote:
Perhaps you aren't aware that Firefly reused the Alliance soldier outfits from Starship Troopers as a cost-saving measure. If they're too storm trooperish for your taste, well, blame Verhoeven, not Joss.

Didn´t know that, DC. Shame On You, Paul!

But it´s not only about the fashion-side of things. The movie “Starship troopers” (as far as I remember) was a satire about american-style action movies and it also dealt with fashist symbols and the glorification of militarism. I believe that the movie was a satire about the book, written by the former graduate of the Naval Academy, Robert A. Heinlein. That´s why the movie Starship Troopers is such a masterpiece for me. The book might be on the reading list of the U.S. Army as well and although it won the Hugo award back in 1960 there´d always been a controversy about the novel being too simplistic and militaristic and the characters just being mouthpieces for the political believes of Heinlein.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers

So, the Problem is, that in Starship Troopers you have flat and extremely good looking Beverly Hills 90210-Topmodels (which is intended by P. Verhoeven) and not complex characters like Mal, Kaylee or Wash in Firefly / Serenity. I understand, that Firefly is also a satire somehow. I love the series. But I think, the better the nasties, the bigger your chances to characterize those persons, who are really important. I think the nasties in Firefly lacked some credibility. I think that Joss might have had some similar thoughts, because he introduced this great alliance agent (The Operative) in the movie, who is a real big threat to the crew and also a very complex character with his own thoughts and believes.

So. Please forgive my harsh critique. It´s only a very small one and a sign for my overall love of the show. I also apologize for my (school-)English.

A Dragonbreth Gilthorpial!!

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