So is Mel good or bad? by Fudge-Hyena

Plus, I didn't understand the scene of the wooden box of cherries that the preacher gave to the ship's counselor.

The young girl loved the cherries so much I assume there's some Freudian sex relationship between her and the old man, since the Cherry has been been a symbol of Virgins for a long time now.

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Saturday, August 9, 2003 6:36 PM

MANIACNUMBERONE

I don't know where to begin saying what was wrong with everthing you wrote.

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Saturday, August 9, 2003 6:44 PM

WHOODAHN

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Originally posted by Fudge-Hyena:
After looking at the Serenity episode I have to wonder if that guy Captain Mel is good or bad.

He's a good guy that just lost the war and his faith

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Plus, what's that frozen robot in the box when it ends? Some girl robot it looked like.

That's the doctors crazy sister. Keep watching.

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I can tell for sure the Preacher is the most boring character and he needs to go. There is too much religion on TV these days. He has no story he's just smiling about God, which is okay but not part of the the story of space and aliens.

His name is Book and he ends up not being boring at all. BTW: There are no aliens.

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Does any one here happen to agree or be the other way about it?

The other way.

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It is fun to join here and talk about first times with Firefly.

Keep watching the show. Invite your friends to watch it with you. If you need any help understanding what's going on, just ask.

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Saturday, August 9, 2003 6:49 PM

WHOODAHN

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Originally posted by Fudge-Hyena:
Plus, I didn't understand the scene of the wooden box of cherries that the preacher gave to the ship's counselor.

I think they were strawberrys and she isn't the ships counselor, she is a mechanic. Are we watching the same show???

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The young girl loved the cherries so much I assume there's some Freudian sex relationship between her and the old man, since the Cherry has been been a symbol of Virgins for a long time now.

I don't know strawberrys are the symbol of but I think she enjoyed them because they taste good.

BTW: What does Fudge-Hyena mean?

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Saturday, August 9, 2003 7:09 PM

I feel stupid because now I know I only watched half of the Serenity episode.

I will watch the other half soon, and return with more to say. I am pretty sure it wasn't strawberries, but please forgive my memory if it was. I have only just watched this show and I am sure many of you have been watching for weeks now.

-FH

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Saturday, August 9, 2003 7:31 PM

-=ZERO=-

Come everything! Gather your pitch-forks and torchs! We have a heretic blasphemer in our mists! Burn the witch!

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Saturday, August 9, 2003 7:32 PM

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Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:
I don't know where to begin saying what was wrong with everthing you wrote.

Hey, I wish you would explain it to me instead of critize me as if you are the Queen Bee of this website. If so, Miss, I apologize. What did I do to you, except arrive a few weeks late to this UK message board?

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Saturday, August 9, 2003 9:03 PM

BRTICK

who's mel?

and there was a robot?

have you even watched the show!

Keep Flying!

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Sunday, August 10, 2003 4:15 AM

SHINY

Hey, give the guy a break, he only just started watching the show and only got HALFWAY through the pilot (probably didn't realize he had only downloaded half). If I was only able to watch the first half of serenity, I would be a little confused too.

Definitely watch the second half (with some friends!) and come back to discuss it! We'll be here and most of us will be happy to explain things or just talk about what you think about it!

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Sunday, August 10, 2003 5:04 AM

Bad! Don't you know? Mel Torme is baaaaad!

But Book is evil and dies in the second half of the ep

*runs out giggling*

(can a giggle be maniacal?)

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Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:45 AM

SERENITYVALLEY

Okay, let's see if I can help.

1) The Captain's name is Malcom Reynolds, so it's Mal, not Mel. If that's confusing, just refer to him as "captain tightpants".

2) He's good. He may seem like a grumpy old man at times, but he's funny and has a good heart, though sometimes driven by money. He's against the government and a theif, so if that's what you mean by "bad" then yes he is, but he's the hero of our show.

3) The girl in the box may seem like a robot because she's all surrounded with metallic stuff, but she's just as human as the next person.

4) Though it seems Book (the preacher) is boring at first, he has a big secret and a long history of something. Apparently it's not what we assume at first OR later.

5) Kaylee, the ship mechanic (not counselor or whatever) likes strawberries. She's young and fresh fruit I'm sure doesn't come easy to them out in the black.

6) Book doesn't die in the second half.

I hope that somewhat clears things up. In the Joss "da boss" Whedon world, things aren't usually explained right away, so it's easy to get confused, but don't worry, you'll 'make it out of the woods'. At least you get to see the pilot first, before the rest of the series!

"I Johnny Donnely take you Sharon Carter to be my lawful wedded bride. To hold and to have. Whether we have money or not. Whether you're feeling not well or well. Until one of us is dead." --Nathan Fillion (Two Guys and a Girl)

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Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:50 AM

Oops, my bad, Book dies only in my fantasies

"Break out your torch and pitchforks!"

And dude! I've been posting on a UK board? Oh my Joss! Ack! *spit*

*washes hands and computer*

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Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:52 PM

Well, this thread is both very kind and very cruel. I'm not sure what to think. I saw a music video about a black man in a big poofie gray haired wig and I wonder if this is the same show. Same guy from Barney Miller back in the seventies.

I find it easier just to let others post because I think I said the wrong thing or something. I know that ManiacNumbero One is a male so sorry and I like to be correct about gender.

But if you people think that everyone whoe finds this website is a mind reader, no, you're not.

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Sunday, August 10, 2003 7:43 PM

SHINY

Quote:

MAL walks out.

RIVER
(staring after him)
Mal, bad. In the Latin.

...can't believe nobody thought of that one! We're slipping...

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Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:50 PM

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WHOAH!!!! Hold the phone, stop everything! ....Who's Mel?

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Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:08 PM

SLOWSMURF

Just to make certain its clear if you didn't get it, they were strawberries, NO sexual enduendo there, just ew.(well, there was, but not after it was explained as she ate one)

Anyway, you're being terribly critical of half a pilot episode, especially as you didn't even(for example) understand who kaylee was yet.

At least finish the pilot episode of a show before you critisize it please.

I tried to be as nice as possible in this post(and avoid ranting), if I didn't, I apologize.

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Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:38 PM

Okay,

before I walk away from this completely:

Many here, including myself, were/are under the impression that you are not what you seem (a newbie to the show). That you are either a very clever troll, or a Browncoat having some fun pretending to be a troll who is pretending to be a newbie.

And if none of that means a damned thing to you, and we were mistaken and you really are a potential new fan, my most humble apologies for not taking you seriously. And: welcome, enjoy the show! We Browncoats can be a nice bunch (evidenced by those who took you at face value) when not paranoid of troll attacks.

But if that is wrong . . .

Keep flyin'

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Monday, August 11, 2003 2:42 AM

SHINY

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Originally posted by Tzegha:
We Browncoats can be a nice bunch (evidenced by those who took you at face value) when not paranoid of troll attacks.

I'm curious...wouldn't most trolls get bored and leave if they were always greeted with polite, helpful interest in their becoming better acquainted with the show instead of defensive or argumentative flaming? After all, flame-wars is what feed trolls (especially when directed at the 'troll') I think if we just assume everyone is on the level, then it will be clear when someone is trying to cause trouble (and the best response, as always, is not to feed the trolls but let the mods -- in this case haken, I guess -- weed them out).

Just my $0.02 (present-day cost of a "nothing part", like say a catalyzing converter)

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Monday, August 11, 2003 4:55 AM

Huh.

Now isn't that something.

To our dear friend who statred this post. Please don't give up on our show. Understand these folk on this here board have had a vital part of them ripped from their soul when this show was taken from the airwaves. Yes, we take our show that seriously. I make it a point to introduce all my friends to Firefly. There is so much to this show. The situations may not be 100% justified as real, (though they are a far cry from what we have been force fed as reality). But the people, they are real. Real hurt, Real Hereos, not because of special powers, just because they choose not to quit. As you continue watching you'll learn to love each and everyone of these characters. Definately don't buy them all at face value, they are human, they make mistakes, they all face faith in their own way. That's part of what makes us all human. Trust me noone is here to go ripping apart anyone just because they are learning. But hey, you ever got any questions, ask. I'll be glad to help. Firefly isn't my life, but it sure made a difference in it. And as Joss said "It's just a TV show, but then again alot of people say the Bible is just a book, it depends on what it means to you. Shiny.

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Monday, August 11, 2003 11:26 AM

Okay, I saw part 2, sort of. It was also part one, then it went to part two, then part two started over. I wonder if there is a better download available. Anyway, it makes much more sense to me now. I'm not sure why I thought the girl was a robot.

I love this show so far.

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Monday, August 11, 2003 11:31 AM

glad to hear it.

Curious.....your avatar choice?

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Monday, August 11, 2003 12:28 PM

SERGEANTX

Good grief, you people are sloooooow. Three guesses as to who 'Fudge-Hyena really is. First correct wins one big "GORRAM fox!" from yours truly.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Monday, August 11, 2003 12:40 PM

KAYTHRYN

Sarge, I'm pretty sure everyone knows. Some relation to anus bob perhaps?

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Monday, August 11, 2003 1:20 PM

Now something about that is just downright unsetteling.

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Monday, August 11, 2003 3:28 PM

SLOWSMURF

*points to own name and doesn't feel stupid*

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Monday, August 11, 2003 3:47 PM

SUCCATASH

This has got to be one of the worst threads I have ever wasted time reading. And now I am told people thinks it's me typing? That's a low blow, folks.

Sarge, do you think it could be Joss or a ME employee?

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Monday, August 11, 2003 3:49 PM

Well, it gave me a giggle to read

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Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:30 PM

GAMBIT3

ok, *now* I'm confused?
What's going on in this thread?

__________________________
Kaylee, will you marry me?

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Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:42 PM

I'm confused as well, and I'm not a nice enough person to give a benefit of the doubt to Fudge-Hyena.

So the way I see it is either this newbie is genuine, albeit confused their own self, or they are a Browncoat in disguise having a good laugh, or a very clever troll having a good laugh.

So, just make up your own mind and perhaps be a little more considerate than I am capable of

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Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:17 PM

ALEXANDRIA

Hi, first off, don't let the annoyed comments by some of the board members turn you off to Firefly or our show. We are all just a little (well actually very very) protective of this show, and have had to deal with a lot of bad news and flaming of it from all angles. you could say we are a bit sensitive. Please do continue to watch this show and keep visiting the board! and tell your friends. sharing this show with others is one of the most helpful things you can do right now.
you've already been corrected in most of the mistakes in you first post so i won't bother going there, except that kaylee is most defniately eating a strawberry in that scene. her love of strawberries is touched on again in a later episode "shindig"
again welcome and i hope to see you here again!

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Thursday, August 21, 2003 7:09 AM

GOATUS

i didnt get the part where the swarm of giant space bees attacked serenity and layed their alien eggs in their engine room, and then they spawned new aliens which were purple and spotty.

I also didnt get the bit when kaylee tore all her clothes off and started pole dancing in the cargo bay... oh wait.. that might have been a dream ;)

hehe keep watching dood, the show seems a little strange at the start, but once u understand the stuff you will fall in love with it like the rest of us ;)

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Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:34 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave

With apologies to my fellow Browncoats, I couldn't leave this one alone this time.

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Originally posted by Fudge-Hyena:
After looking at the Serenity episode I have to wonder if that guy Captain Mel is good or bad.

That would be Mal, not Mel - as in Malcolm Reynolds, not as in Mel's Diner.

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Plus, what's that frozen robot in the box when it ends? Some girl robot it looked like.

Finish the episode. It's two parts - did you know it's two parts?

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I can tell for sure the Preacher is the most boring character and he needs to go.

I'm sure you meant the Shephard...right?

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There is too much religion on TV these days. He has no story he's just smiling about God, which is okay but not part of the the story of space and aliens.

A. How much time are you spending on the religion channel?

B. He smiles more about people, not about God and the people he knows about would make your toenails curl.

C. Space, yes. People in space, abso-blooming-lutely. Aliens? Not so much. Are you sure you're watching Joss Whedon's Firefly?

Obviously you did look at the episode (the trailer, I'm thinking), you just didn't WATCH much of it.

Why're we still having this conversation?

“We three are the only ones in this place wearing brown.
Means we’ve found something worth fighting for.
Something worth being more than alive for.”
Sarahetc

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Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:21 PM

CAPTAINMAL

oops.

"Why we still discussin' this?"

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Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:22 PM

CAPTAINMAL

Mel is DEFINATLY bad.

Just look at the way he treaded Alice, Flo, and Vera.
Shameful.

"Why we still discussin' this?"

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Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:36 PM

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Originally posted by Alexandria:
Hi, first off, don't let the annoyed comments by some of the board members turn you off to Firefly

Gosh, I feel so dumb! I've seen all the episodes now except the last one. After all this crap I've received from everybody, and YES, my email box is full.

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Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:24 PM

MAGUINAN

bump

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Monday, November 10, 2003 7:04 PM

my new dream is to fall fast asleep and then wake up a month later and put Firefly in my DVD player because it came out the day I woke up.

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Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:46 AM

DESANGRO

Hey, that's a good dream! I just hope I have the appropriate amount of moolah to pay for the DVD set!

Anyhow here's a big "welcome to the fandom" from Citizen Captain De Sangro of State Security!

"My heart bleeds for you." --Citizen Captain De Sangro, to Citizen First Lieutenant Timmons.

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Wednesday, November 26, 2003 7:25 PM

SUCCATASH

Hi, Everyone. I have a big confession to make. I'm pretty sure Haken is going to kick me off his site when he finds out. This time, I have crossed the line and there's no turning back.

I, Succatash, created the user "Fudge Hyena" for mischievious purposes. If you say it five times real fast it sounds like "vagina." I alone am responsible for cruelly tricking kind Browncoats into trying to help someone who doesn't exist. Someone who appeared to be stupid, who needed help. Someone who never really wondered if Mel is good or bad.

To all of you who responded kindly to Fudge Hyena- You should be proud. You are good people.

Sorry for what I did. I hope I never do it again. If Haken decides to kick me out forever, I understand. But... if I get a second chance I promise to teach others not to do it too.

Happy Thanksgiving

- Succatash

"After looking at the Serenity episode I have to wonder if that guy Captain Mel is good or bad. Plus, what's that frozen robot in the box when it ends? Some girl robot it looked like.

I can tell for sure the Preacher is the most boring character and he needs to go. There is too much religion on TV these days. He has no story he's just smiling about God, which is okay but not part of the the story of space and aliens.

Plus, I didn't understand the scene of the wooden box of cherries that the preacher gave to the ship's counselor.

The young girl loved the cherries so much I assume there's some Freudian sex relationship between her and the old man, since the Cherry has been been a symbol of Virgins for a long time now."

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Thursday, November 27, 2003 7:10 AM

SOUTHERNSLAYER

Okay. Im sorry if others dissagree but I'd dont really see that any harm has been done. It provoked more posts which I find a great remedy for Firefly withdrawal and at the same time shows the great level of tolerance browncoats have for those not so Firefly savy and there will to help those who are unsure of areas of the show.

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Thursday, November 27, 2003 3:25 PM

DESANGRO

Oh we've been had once again by the mordant and canny wit of our one and only Succatash!

You ain't gettin' kicked off this here board: who would replace you? I personally promise that I will bring the full sinister and oppressive power of the PRH's Office of State Security to bear on those who might harrass you!

Have a nice day!

Oscar Saint-Just Lives! Viva la Revolution!

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Friday, November 28, 2003 8:04 AM